There has to be some truth in that. Very few programmes have got me watching so far this Autumn, certainly on BBC1 and ITV.
Who wants to watch generic tv shows when the warm weather is still with us, it is no surprise really. It is dark now at 8.00pm, but still pleasant out - city centres I see are booming with people. Personally aside from iPlayer I have hardly watched any tv this month so far..
Now in 6 weeks time it is Halloween - if ratings are still low (M-F) then schedulers will face a battle. Weekends are going to be fine of course - SCD, TXF, DA etc.....
Not surprised by that at all - as mentioned on another thread the STV coverage was so CHEAP looking - awful looking studio set with 2 guests squeezed onto a 2 seater couch, not bad presenting and guests but oh dear the whole thing looked as if it had been knocked up 30 minutes before transmission. Compare that to the BBC coverage:- assured, professional and a very good looking set - sweeping table, cameras, graphics etc... - miles ahead!
I thought the BBC's coverage was excellent, not just the networked BBC1 programme but the BBC Scotland one as well. Looked really good and I especially liked Jeremy Vine's virtual reality graphics, very inventive.
Ratings roundup When DS posts their ratings report I'll update this or repost. The peak figures for Scotland Decides come from Broadcast.
Thursday 18 September 2014
BBC 1
12:15: Bargain Hunt - 1.79m
13:00: BBC News at One - 2.55m
13:30: BBC Regional News - 2.49m
13:45: Doctors - 1.19m (20.2%)
17:15: Pointless - 2.61m
18:00: BBC News at Six - 3.86m (26.0%)
18:30: BBC Regional News - 4.53m (28.4%)
19:00: The One Show - 3.23m (18.4%)
19:30: EastEnders - 6.30m (33.5%)
20:00: DIY SOS: The Big Build - 4.20m (20.2%)
21:00: Who Do You Think You Are? - 4.64m (22.7%)
22:00: BBC News at Ten - 5.30m (30.5%)
22:30: BBC Regional News - 4.87m (31.3%)
22:40: Scotland Decides - 1.60m (25.5%)
* peak - 4.80m (31.4%) in first five minutes
* 0.83m watching at 01:55
ITV
17:00: The Chase - 2.15m
18:00: ITV Regional News - 3.01m
18:30: ITV News - 3.05m
19:00: Emmerdale - 5.45m (31.0%)
* +1 - 141k (0.7%)
19:30: Tonight - 2.11m
20:00: Emmerdale - 5.06m (25.5%)
* +1 - 219k (1.1%)
20:30: Paul O’Grady: For the Love of Dogs - 3.50m
* +1 - 230k
21:00: Chasing Shadows - 2.69m
22:00: ITV News at Ten - 1.72m
22:40: Scotland Decides - 0.36m (5.6%)
* peak - 0.96m (6.7%) in first five minutes
* 0.187m (7.2%) watching at 01:55
Channel 4
18:30: Hollyoaks - 0.72m (5.3%)
21:00: Educating the East End - 1.60m (7.6%)
22:00: Scotland in a Day - 0.59m (3.4%)
Channel 5
13:15: Home and Away - 0.206m (3.2%)
13:45: Neighbours - 0.661m (11.0%)
17:30: Neighbours - 0.769m (6.4%)
18:00: Home and Away - 0.518m (3.5%)
* 5* First Look at 18:30 - 0.322m (2.0%)
ITV 2 22:00: Celebrity Juice - 0.98m (6.0%)
ITV 4
17:30: UEFA Europa League Live - 0.94m (5.3%)
BBC 3
22:30: EastEnders - 0.379m (2.7%)
23:00: Family Guy - 0.613m (5.9%)
23:25: Family Guy - 0.556m (6.6%)
23:45: Family Guy - 0.462m (6.7%)
E4
18:00: The Big Bang Theory - 0.501m (3.4%)
18:30: The Big Bang Theory - 0.645m (4.0%)
19:00: Hollyoaks - 0.724m (4.1%)
* +1 - 126k (0.7%)
20:00: The Big Bang Theory - 0.505m (2.5%)
20:30: The Big Bang Theory - 0.653m (3.1%)
Sources - Broadcast, DS, @TVRatingsUK, ITV Media, Mike Teevee
I thought the BBC's coverage was excellent, not just the networked BBC1 programme but the BBC Scotland one as well. Looked really good and I especially liked Jeremy Vine's virtual reality graphics, very inventive.
I thought the BBC Scotland coverage was best although as you say all the BBCs coverage was very good. Sky were bad - I mean what the hell was Kay Burley doing at the Glasgow count walking around all the time for no apparent reason.
Rare 9am ToTH - probably won't be seen again although if it performs OK it should return again for the 2015 General Election in May.
I'm expecting a big win for the BBC at Breakfast, possibly over 2 million; the ITV/STV results programme and GMB outside Scotland were very poor, so was Sky.
I thought the BBC Scotland coverage was best although as you say all the BBCs coverage was very good. Sky were bad - I mean what the hell was Kay Burley doing at the Glasgow count walking around all the time for no apparent reason.
Likely slowing the counting since she was standing very close to the counters so no doubt she caused a few to have to start again, no wonder Glasgow voted yes they trying to make sure she never came back again.
I thought the BBC Scotland coverage was best although as you say all the BBCs coverage was very good. Sky were bad - I mean what the hell was Kay Burley doing at the Glasgow count walking around all the time for no apparent reason.
There should be nothing going on in the count that might distract the counters and she would be a distraction to an angel.
I assume that BBC Scotland Decides figure includes the separate BBC Scotland results programme so that presumably represents the majority of the 1.60 million.If the ITV figure includes Scotland it looks like a disaster for STV.
The standard overnights include all regional/national variations.
Remember, that 1.60m average is from 10.40 till 2 in the morning. Most people will have gone to bed long before then if they had work in the morning.
We got the BBC One Scotland share, do we have a rating, and peak rating?
Thanks. I'd be surprised if as much as half the audience was in Scotland but I could be wrong. I agree with Twitter; Huw Edwards much improved from previous live stints. Still cautious in his delivery but very fluent over a long shift, approaching Dimbleby status I feel.
Now that DS have updated, an update to the roundup I posted earlier.
Thursday 18 September 2014
BBC 1
12:15: Bargain Hunt - 1.79m
13:00: BBC News at One - 2.55m
13:30: BBC Regional News - 2.49m
13:45: Doctors - 1.19m (20.2%)
17:15: Pointless - 2.61m
18:00: BBC News at Six - 3.86m (26.0%)
18:30: BBC Regional News - 4.53m (28.4%)
19:00: The One Show - 3.23m (18.4%)
19:30: EastEnders - 6.30m (33.5%)
20:00: DIY SOS: The Big Build - 4.20m (20.2%)
21:00: Who Do You Think You Are? - 4.64m (22.7%)
22:00: BBC News at Ten - 5.30m (30.5%)
22:30: BBC Regional News - 4.87m (31.3%)
22:40: Scotland Decides - 1.60m (25.5%)
* peak - 4.80m (31.4%) in first five minutes
* 0.83m watching at 01:55
BBC 2
19:00: Celebrity Antiques Road Trip - 1.37m (7.6%)
20:00: Operation Stonehenge: What Lies Beneath - 1.67m (8.0%)
21:00: Penguins on a Plane: Great Animal Moves - 1.07m (5.2%)
ITV
17:00: The Chase - 2.15m
18:00: ITV Regional News - 3.01m
18:30: ITV News - 3.05m
19:00: Emmerdale - 5.45m (31.0%)
* +1 - 141k (0.7%)
19:30: Tonight - 2.11m
20:00: Emmerdale - 5.06m (25.5%)
* +1 - 219k (1.1%)
20:30: Paul O’Grady: For the Love of Dogs - 3.50m (16.6%)
* +1 - 230k (1.4%)
21:00: Chasing Shadows - 2.69m (13.2%)
22:00: ITV News at Ten - 1.72m
22:40: Scotland Decides - 0.36m (5.6%)
* peak - 0.96m (6.7%) in first five minutes
* 0.187m (7.2%) watching at 01:55
Channel 4
18:30: Hollyoaks - 0.72m (5.3%)
20:00: Location, Location, Location - 1.43m (6.9%)
21:00: Educating the East End - 1.41m (6.9%)
22:00: Scotland in a Day - 0.59m (3.4%)
Channel 5
13:15: Home and Away - 0.206m (3.2%)
13:45: Neighbours - 0.661m (11.0%)
17:30: Neighbours - 0.769m (6.4%)
18:00: Home and Away - 0.518m (3.5%)
* 5* First Look at 18:30 - 0.322m (2.0%)
20:00: Britain’s Craziest Communities - 0.609m (2.9%)
21:00: Illegals: Breaking into Britain - 0.98m (4.8%)
22:00: Dallas - 0.372m (2.3%)
Sky 1
21:00: Glee - 0.125m (0.6%)
ITV 2
22:00: Celebrity Juice - 0.98m (6.0%)
ITV 4
17:30: UEFA Europa League Live - 0.94m (5.3%)
BBC 3
22:30: EastEnders - 0.379m (2.7%)
23:00: Family Guy - 0.613m (5.9%)
23:25: Family Guy - 0.556m (6.6%)
23:45: Family Guy - 0.462m (6.7%)
E4
18:00: The Big Bang Theory - 0.501m (3.4%)
18:30: The Big Bang Theory - 0.645m (4.0%)
19:00: Hollyoaks - 0.724m (4.1%)
* +1 - 126k (0.7%)
20:00: The Big Bang Theory - 0.505m (2.5%)
20:30: The Big Bang Theory - 0.653m (3.1%)
Sources - Broadcast, DS, @TVRatingsUK, ITV Media, Mike Teevee
Educating The East End is a disaster. It's only doing about half of what Educating Yorkshire was doing and doesn't seem to be doing any better (and maybe even worse) than Educating Essex which had much tougher competition and was considered a disappointment at the time.
Wonder why this one just hasn't caught fire like Yorkshire? The most worrying thing is that it's getting worse. It launched 2 weeks ago with 2.2m but is now at 1.6m, whereas I'm pretty sure Yorkshire launched with over 3m and stayed there.
At this rate I don't think they should bother with another one. It seems the public have had enough. No doubt C4 will commission a 26 part run for next year in response.
its been 16 years since the movie, I think the show can return without having to worry about it, Doctor Who kinda had to do the same with the US TV movie, which also had "limited success" and was not well liked by fans.
I think a straight remake (if good) will find favour with an auidence, without the movie getting in the way.
I think simply remaking the Peel and Steed era would be setting up it for failure, they need to see what made the original work well but also update it for modern audiences. I would rather it be a continuation of the original rather than a straight remake.
Educating The East End is a disaster. It's only doing about half of what Educating Yorkshire was doing and doesn't seem to be doing any better (and maybe even worse) than Educating Essex which had much tougher competition and was considered a disappointment at the time.
Wonder why this one just hasn't caught fire like Yorkshire? The most worrying thing is that it's getting worse. It launched 2 weeks ago with 2.2m but is now at 1.6m, whereas I'm pretty sure Yorkshire launched with over 3m and stayed there.
At this rate I don't think they should bother with another one. It seems the public have had enough. No doubt C4 will commission a 26 part run for next year in response.
Consolidated for the first two episodes of both series, including +1
Educating The East End is a disaster. It's only doing about half of what Educating Yorkshire was doing and doesn't seem to be doing any better (and maybe even worse) than Educating Essex which had much tougher competition and was considered a disappointment at the time.
Wonder why this one just hasn't caught fire like Yorkshire? The most worrying thing is that it's getting worse. It launched 2 weeks ago with 2.2m but is now at 1.6m, whereas I'm pretty sure Yorkshire launched with over 3m and stayed there.
At this rate I don't think they should bother with another one. It seems the public have had enough. No doubt C4 will commission a 26 part run for next year in response.
I wonder if the East End was the wrong place to set the new series, I think Educating Scotland or Educating Northern Ireland would have given something a little different.
I wonder if the East End was the wrong place to set the new series, I think Educating Scotland or Educating Northern Ireland would have given something a little different.
I thought that. Those might have worked better. I was convinced they'd go for Educating Merseyside which could have worked too.
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Currently sill very warm still though.
Rare 9am ToTH - probably won't be seen again although if it performs OK it should return again for the 2015 General Election in May.
Who wants to watch generic tv shows when the warm weather is still with us, it is no surprise really. It is dark now at 8.00pm, but still pleasant out - city centres I see are booming with people. Personally aside from iPlayer I have hardly watched any tv this month so far..
Now in 6 weeks time it is Halloween - if ratings are still low (M-F) then schedulers will face a battle. Weekends are going to be fine of course - SCD, TXF, DA etc.....
That's very true, for me personally, between 7 to 11pm there is not one programme on the main channels that tempts me to turn with tv on.
I thought the BBC's coverage was excellent, not just the networked BBC1 programme but the BBC Scotland one as well. Looked really good and I especially liked Jeremy Vine's virtual reality graphics, very inventive.
Celebrity Juice looking a lot healthier this week
I thought the BBC Scotland coverage was best although as you say all the BBCs coverage was very good. Sky were bad - I mean what the hell was Kay Burley doing at the Glasgow count walking around all the time for no apparent reason.
I'm expecting a big win for the BBC at Breakfast, possibly over 2 million; the ITV/STV results programme and GMB outside Scotland were very poor, so was Sky.
Likely slowing the counting since she was standing very close to the counters so no doubt she caused a few to have to start again, no wonder Glasgow voted yes they trying to make sure she never came back again.
Very warm - where are you Benidorm?
Its certainly not been even warm where I live probably since the middle of August.
iPlayer is TV/Radio!
There should be nothing going on in the count that might distract the counters and she would be a distraction to an angel.
The standard overnights include all regional/national variations.
Remember, that 1.60m average is from 10.40 till 2 in the morning. Most people will have gone to bed long before then if they had work in the morning.
We got the BBC One Scotland share, do we have a rating, and peak rating?
Share details etc on the BBC Ariel web site
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ariel/29278096
Thanks. I'd be surprised if as much as half the audience was in Scotland but I could be wrong. I agree with Twitter; Huw Edwards much improved from previous live stints. Still cautious in his delivery but very fluent over a long shift, approaching Dimbleby status I feel.
Thursday 18 September 2014
BBC 1
12:15: Bargain Hunt - 1.79m
13:00: BBC News at One - 2.55m
13:30: BBC Regional News - 2.49m
13:45: Doctors - 1.19m (20.2%)
17:15: Pointless - 2.61m
18:00: BBC News at Six - 3.86m (26.0%)
18:30: BBC Regional News - 4.53m (28.4%)
19:00: The One Show - 3.23m (18.4%)
19:30: EastEnders - 6.30m (33.5%)
20:00: DIY SOS: The Big Build - 4.20m (20.2%)
21:00: Who Do You Think You Are? - 4.64m (22.7%)
22:00: BBC News at Ten - 5.30m (30.5%)
22:30: BBC Regional News - 4.87m (31.3%)
22:40: Scotland Decides - 1.60m (25.5%)
* peak - 4.80m (31.4%) in first five minutes
* 0.83m watching at 01:55
BBC 2
19:00: Celebrity Antiques Road Trip - 1.37m (7.6%)
20:00: Operation Stonehenge: What Lies Beneath - 1.67m (8.0%)
21:00: Penguins on a Plane: Great Animal Moves - 1.07m (5.2%)
ITV
17:00: The Chase - 2.15m
18:00: ITV Regional News - 3.01m
18:30: ITV News - 3.05m
19:00: Emmerdale - 5.45m (31.0%)
* +1 - 141k (0.7%)
19:30: Tonight - 2.11m
20:00: Emmerdale - 5.06m (25.5%)
* +1 - 219k (1.1%)
20:30: Paul O’Grady: For the Love of Dogs - 3.50m (16.6%)
* +1 - 230k (1.4%)
21:00: Chasing Shadows - 2.69m (13.2%)
22:00: ITV News at Ten - 1.72m
22:40: Scotland Decides - 0.36m (5.6%)
* peak - 0.96m (6.7%) in first five minutes
* 0.187m (7.2%) watching at 01:55
Channel 4
18:30: Hollyoaks - 0.72m (5.3%)
20:00: Location, Location, Location - 1.43m (6.9%)
21:00: Educating the East End - 1.41m (6.9%)
22:00: Scotland in a Day - 0.59m (3.4%)
Channel 5
13:15: Home and Away - 0.206m (3.2%)
13:45: Neighbours - 0.661m (11.0%)
17:30: Neighbours - 0.769m (6.4%)
18:00: Home and Away - 0.518m (3.5%)
* 5* First Look at 18:30 - 0.322m (2.0%)
20:00: Britain’s Craziest Communities - 0.609m (2.9%)
21:00: Illegals: Breaking into Britain - 0.98m (4.8%)
22:00: Dallas - 0.372m (2.3%)
Sky 1
21:00: Glee - 0.125m (0.6%)
ITV 2
22:00: Celebrity Juice - 0.98m (6.0%)
ITV 4
17:30: UEFA Europa League Live - 0.94m (5.3%)
BBC 3
22:30: EastEnders - 0.379m (2.7%)
23:00: Family Guy - 0.613m (5.9%)
23:25: Family Guy - 0.556m (6.6%)
23:45: Family Guy - 0.462m (6.7%)
E4
18:00: The Big Bang Theory - 0.501m (3.4%)
18:30: The Big Bang Theory - 0.645m (4.0%)
19:00: Hollyoaks - 0.724m (4.1%)
* +1 - 126k (0.7%)
20:00: The Big Bang Theory - 0.505m (2.5%)
20:30: The Big Bang Theory - 0.653m (3.1%)
Sources - Broadcast, DS, @TVRatingsUK, ITV Media, Mike Teevee
Wonder why this one just hasn't caught fire like Yorkshire? The most worrying thing is that it's getting worse. It launched 2 weeks ago with 2.2m but is now at 1.6m, whereas I'm pretty sure Yorkshire launched with over 3m and stayed there.
At this rate I don't think they should bother with another one. It seems the public have had enough. No doubt C4 will commission a 26 part run for next year in response.
Dallas is a big time shifter as we know. It got 1.08m last week.
I think simply remaking the Peel and Steed era would be setting up it for failure, they need to see what made the original work well but also update it for modern audiences. I would rather it be a continuation of the original rather than a straight remake.
Consolidated for the first two episodes of both series, including +1
Yorkshire: 4.76m (18.0%) / 4.63m (17.9%)
East End: 3.13m (12.2%) / 2.59m (10.6%)
A big drop.
I wonder if the East End was the wrong place to set the new series, I think Educating Scotland or Educating Northern Ireland would have given something a little different.
Thanks for those.
I thought that. Those might have worked better. I was convinced they'd go for Educating Merseyside which could have worked too.