2015 BDO Darts Thread

Darren Lethem · 30/12/14 - 20:45

Some details about the coverage here. Nice to see BBC will be using John Rawling

http://sport-onthebox.com/2014/12/29/bdo-world-darts-championship-2015-live-on-bbc-sport-bt-sport/#respond

Madsocks · 30/12/14 - 22:18

Off all next week before I start my new job, so it will be a darts fest! :-)

Darren Lethem · 31/12/14 - 08:24

Very honest and frank piece by Ross Montgomery here.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/darts-ross-montgomery-reckons-action-4893081

Suitcase Berao · 31/12/14 - 12:08

Darren Lethem wrote: »

Very honest and frank piece by Ross Montgomery here.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/darts-ross-montgomery-reckons-action-4893081

I do think Montgomery is a bit of a tool with some of the stuff that he comes out with, but can't argue with what he says regarding Lakeside in that piece.

Gazza1982 · 31/12/14 - 12:25

Darren Lethem wrote: »

Some details about the coverage here. Nice to see BBC will be using John Rawling

http://sport-onthebox.com/2014/12/29/bdo-world-darts-championship-2015-live-on-bbc-sport-bt-sport/#respond

Not quite sure if that is 100% reliable. Rawling did a bit of commentary for the BBC at last years championships and also 'Little' Richard Ashdown was also the MC last year.

Darren Lethem · 31/12/14 - 14:48

Gazza1982 wrote: »

Not quite sure if that is 100% reliable. Rawling did a bit of commentary for the BBC at last years championships and also 'Little' Richard Ashdown was also the MC last year.

both true

Daniel_Gleeball · 31/12/14 - 16:01

I just hope the BBC commentators don't try to mislead the public by saying how great the standard of the match is when they are averaging less than 80. The standard has deteriorated so much over the years. Up to about 10 years ago the experts reckoned that sky had the best player but BBC had the best standard. No one in their right mind would think that now. Money talks, BDO and BBC need to get their hands out of their pockets.

Darren Lethem · 31/12/14 - 16:41

Daniel_Gleeball wrote: »

I just hope the BBC commentators don't try to mislead the public by saying how great the standard of the match is when they are averaging less than 80. The standard has deteriorated so much over the years. Up to about 10 years ago the experts reckoned that sky had the best player but BBC had the best standard. No one in their right mind would think that now. Money talks, BDO and BBC need to get their hands out of their pockets.

These are amateurs in the main, the have other jobs, they play for love. The PDC guys are full time

Darren Lethem · 01/01/15 - 20:29

Toying with having a flutter on the Lakeside, but who to back ? Who would your money be on ?

JBO · 01/01/15 - 21:49

Darren Lethem wrote: »

Toying with having a flutter on the Lakeside, but who to back ? Who would your money be on ?

I've told you:D

Darren Lethem · 02/01/15 - 08:13

JBO wrote: »

I've told you:D

No chance

I know who i am backing now. And he is the value bet for me. Will tell you who when i place the flutter. I'm not one of these "i backed the winner after the event has finished" brigade, my cards will be on the table then you can all laugh when he falls at the first

Suitcase Berao · 02/01/15 - 11:16

Robbie Green at 16/1 looks like a good bet.

Think only really Harms could trouble him in that half of the draw (potential quarter final meeting, and I'm including Wilson in that) and with him moving over to the PDC next year think the motivation will be high.

Terrence Chant · 02/01/15 - 11:56

Scott Mitchell e.w at 18/1 looks good value, probably such decent odds because he's in the top half of the draw which looks stronger to me.

So for value in the bottom half I'd also tip Jamie Hughes, won the Zuiderduin Masters last month and could well go deep at 14/1

david16 · 02/01/15 - 12:54

Daniel_Gleeball wrote: »

I just hope the BBC commentators don't try to mislead the public by saying how great the standard of the match is when they are averaging less than 80. The standard has deteriorated so much over the years. Up to about 10 years ago the experts reckoned that sky had the best player but BBC had the best standard. No one in their right mind would think that now. Money talks, BDO and BBC need to get their hands out of their pockets.

It's not quite as good a standard at the BDO as it is at the PDC overall but you still see some excellent darts at the BDO, and you see some very respectable or even some very good averages at the BDO towards the end of the tournament.

Yes there are a number of poor averages at the BDO, but poor averages are not entirely exclusive to the BDO.

Meepers · 02/01/15 - 13:32

david16 wrote: »

It's not quite as good a standard at the BDO as it is at the PDC overall but you still see some excellent darts at the BDO, and you see some very respectable or even some very good averages at the BDO towards the end of the tournament.

Yes there are a number of poor averages at the BDO, but poor averages are not entirely exclusive to the BDO.

Not quite? Most of the Lakeside players wouldnt even qualify for the proper World Championships.

The standard in the BDO has collapsed.The sooner the BDO stop this stubborn hold out and accept a PDC buy out the better.

You get good matches in the BDO because the players are equally bad. Its 2 rubbish players averaging in the 80s every game

The BDO do a fantastic job at the amateur game, but as a serious sport, they are hopeless and should leave that to the PDC

Darren Lethem · 02/01/15 - 14:30

Meepers wrote: »

Not quite? Most of the Lakeside players wouldnt even qualify for the proper World Championships.

The standard in the BDO has collapsed.The sooner the BDO stop this stubborn hold out and accept a PDC buy out the better.

You get good matches in the BDO because the players are equally bad. Its 2 rubbish players averaging in the 80s every game

The BDO do a fantastic job at the amateur game, but as a serious sport, they are hopeless and should leave that to the PDC

Rubbish. Just look at the averages ( seeing as you blinkered fans base a game on averages alone ) for the last 8 onwards last year and you will see they were not all in the 80s.

I really dislike this attitude. The BDO players do full times jobs ( most of them ) and play darts for a hobby, the PDC is vice versa. Why would you want to stop the county matches ? the youth matches AND the womens game ? The PDC wouldn't give a toss about them as they don't get the crowds in the big arenas like the PL etc. Only the BDO allows fans to watch the opens, the PDC have a closed door policy.

I love the PDC and have thoroughly enjoyed watching the Worlds but to think it is proper darts shows a real ignorance on your behalf. Yes it is a higher standard nobody would deny that but it is professional v amateur. Or do you think lower league football should stop too ? Are you just a PL fan ?

Darren Lethem · 02/01/15 - 15:16

The Lethem money has gone on..............Scott Mitchell at 18/1

Madsocks · 02/01/15 - 16:54

See it didn't take too long for the PDC fanboys to derail this thread.

Yawn.

Meepers · 02/01/15 - 17:37

Darren Lethem wrote: »

Rubbish. Just look at the averages ( seeing as you blinkered fans base a game on averages alone ) for the last 8 onwards last year and you will see they were not all in the 80s.

I really dislike this attitude. The BDO players do full times jobs ( most of them ) and play darts for a hobby, the PDC is vice versa. Why would you want to stop the county matches ? the youth matches AND the womens game ? The PDC wouldn't give a toss about them as they don't get the crowds in the big arenas like the PL etc. Only the BDO allows fans to watch the opens, the PDC have a closed door policy.

I love the PDC and have thoroughly enjoyed watching the Worlds but to think it is proper darts shows a real ignorance on your behalf. Yes it is a higher standard nobody would deny that but it is professional v amateur. Or do you think lower league football should stop too ? Are you just a PL fan ?

The BDO have a cheek to call their tournament the World Championships. Its not. And the BBC are even worse for promoting such a myth

Its like the Conference claiming they are top flight football. Because they are the top division outside of the football league construct

As I said in my post which didnt read

The BDO do a fantastic job at the amateur game

And thats what they should do. Run it. Not claim that sub standard darts is the World Championships

Meepers · 02/01/15 - 17:43

Madsocks wrote: »

See it didn't take too long for the PDC fanboys to derail this thread.

Yawn.

Since when has being a fan of decent sport been an insult? Damn, I really hate Darts where players are regularly hitting well into the 100s average, as opposed to struggling to make it out the 80s and taking 10 darts to hit a double

Meepers · 02/01/15 - 18:32

I wonder how many players from the PDC feeder series will jump ship this year after the tournament?

The BDO havent done their usual bully statements about trying to stop them this year so we might see the last dregs of talent come over. I cant wait for the day to see Martin Adams finally be dragged onto a PDC stage kicking and screaming.

Darren Lethem · 02/01/15 - 19:56

Meepers wrote: »

I wonder how many players from the PDC feeder series will jump ship this year after the tournament?

The BDO havent done their usual bully statements about trying to stop them this year so we might see the last dregs of talent come over. I cant wait for the day to see Martin Adams finally be dragged onto a PDC stage kicking and screaming.

The same Martin Adams that got to the semi finals of the PDC World Matchplay in Blackpool in 2001 ?

This is a thread on BDO darts, if you don't like it don't post ( like DS rules state )

Madsocks · 02/01/15 - 20:22

Meepers wrote: »

Since when has being a fan of decent sport been an insult? Damn, I really hate Darts where players are regularly hitting well into the 100s average, as opposed to struggling to make it out the 80s and taking 10 darts to hit a double

You don't like it, don't post. It's as simple as that. Strange how the PDC world championships have been going on since mid December yet you've never posted on that topic, yet as soon as the BDO thread starts, you have already made 4 posts. Very odd considering how much it seems you love the PDC with your Pro-PDC, Anti-BDO tripe.

There are people that do like both the PDC and the BDO, such as myself and Darren. However, that might be difficult for you to comprehend.

Meepers · 02/01/15 - 20:48

Darren Lethem wrote: »

The same Martin Adams that got to the semi finals of the PDC World Matchplay in Blackpool in 2001 ?

This is a thread on BDO darts, if you don't like it don't post ( like DS rules state )

Says the person who is resorting to personal attacks (which DS rules state arent allowed) rather than actually answering points.

I suggest you be mature to answer points made, rather than insult people who you disagree with

Madsocks · 02/01/15 - 20:55

Meepers wrote: »

Says the person who is resorting to personal attacks (which DS rules state arent allowed) rather than actually answering points.

I suggest you be mature to answer points made, rather than insult people who you disagree with

What personal attacks?

Terrence Chant · 02/01/15 - 21:26

Madsocks wrote: »

You don't like it, don't post. It's as simple as that. Strange how the PDC world championships have been going on since mid December yet you've never posted on that topic, yet as soon as the BDO thread starts, you have already made 4 posts. Very odd considering how much it seems you love the PDC with your Pro-PDC, Anti-BDO tripe.

There are people that do like both the PDC and the BDO, such as myself and Darren. However, that might be difficult for you to comprehend.

Exactly. It's a shame that, particularly considering relations between the two codes are more cordial than ever, people still have to post the same tired old guff I've been subjected to on here for ten years. Move on!

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