[captainkremmen]

Originally Posted by gomezz

The meaning of the word anyone appears to have passed you by.

You're still completely and utterly missing the points people are making.

Yes we know you can connect a PC or laptop to a TV, and get access to catch up services and a great many other things. But you still coming at this from YOUR perspective.

YouView provides a convenient way of accessing catch up content, that is so easy to use even your gran could do it. Scroll back through the EPG and click PLAY. No need to go into another menu, then find the correct catch up app, then scroll or search through it to find the correct programme, then click PLAY, then maybe even have to click it to make it fullscreen (on some).

As for pricing £299 is actually lower than some of the currently available Freeview HD PVRs were just a year or two ago, and the Humax on which the current box is based, isn't all that far off that price still, and the new box is more powerful.

And not everyone wants to have their PC tied up watching catch up TV, especially if it's a family with only one PC in the house.

I appreciate that you find it more practical to do so via a PC, I prefer to do so via the PS3, that's entirely a personal choice for each of us and down to what we find most convenient. But I don't see how you can deny that for a great many people, the way YouView works will be far more convenient for them. If it is marketed properly and other boxes appear fairly quickly, then it could do very well.

[captainkremmen]

Originally Posted by gomezz

Gosh, are you confused. That is not what I said. Try re-reading the posts in the their proper order with their proper meaning and refrain from imagining fancies against which to argue in vain.

What did you mean then?, as you did say anyone and most people would take that to mean, well, anyone, even your mum or gran etc.

[gomezz]

Sigh!

1) Someone asks "why would anyone"

2) I explained why many would.

English Comprehension 101: Anyone is not everyone.

[tom558]

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

It still is pretty well - the Humax one is only £20 cheaper than the YouView price. For a box with MUCH higher processor power that looks pretty reasonable to me?, hopefully the faster processor means it runs faster as well?.

Well yes I agree,some complain about the cost of this first YouView box,but maybe they have never bought a standard Freeview HD PVR,which costs,as you say,just a little less 'anyway'.

Still we would not want it to cost even more than it does would we.

There are two drivers that will get me into the shops to buy one,first,my exisitng Freeview HD PVR a Sagemcom,breaks down,and second,if plenty of 'other' content providers get on board,to create lots of viewing choice for people

[stafs]

Jeez, what a lot of fuss over a small grammatical mistake...

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by captainkremmen

As for pricing £299 is actually lower than some of the currently available Freeview HD PVRs were just a year or two ago, and the Humax on which the current box is based, isn't all that far off that price still, and the new box is more powerful.

It might have more power but that's likely to support features that aren't yet available like Games. Apart from the retrospective epg it lacks so many of the features that exist on the HDR FOX T2. DNLA file serving for one. A reset also deletes all your recordings. Too many snags at the moment, I wouldn't buy one yet.

I should say I rarely use catch up services anyway despite having a load of ways of accessing them.

[tom558]

Originally Posted by stafs

Jeez, what a lot of fuss over a small grammatical mistake...

Indeed

[jjne]

I'd say to all those putting forward the PS3....

What about a RaspPi running XBMC?

It'll play back the on-demand services with an appropriate backend, and costs £25.

It needs *even more* work than the PS3 though (I think you know where I'm going with this!).

[tom558]

Originally Posted by jjne

I'd say to all those putting forward the PS3....

What about a RaspPi running XBMC?

It'll play back the on-demand services with an appropriate backend, and costs £25.

It needs *even more* work than the PS3 though (I think you know where I'm going with this!).

Raspberry Pi,waiting for one

[captainkremmen]

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

It might have more power but that's likely to support features that aren't yet available like Games. Apart from the retrospective epg it lacks so many of the features that exist on the HDR FOX T2. DNLA file serving for one. A reset also deletes all your recordings. Too many snags at the moment, I wouldn't buy one yet.

I should say I rarely use catch up services anyway despite having a load of ways of accessing them.

Indeed I wouldn't buy one until it settles down and bugs (which there are bound to be) have been fully ironed out.

As for DLNA, given YouView will allows apps to be added I wonder if some enterprising person/individual will at some stage write an app that adds DLNA to YouView boxes and have it added by the YouView chaps.

I'm the same, I rarely use catchup services as it is, only very occasionally, but I know others that use them quite a bit so for some people it could prove useful.

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by tom558

Raspberry Pi,waiting for one

Mine came a few weeks ago, I haven't had much time to play with it yet - but I'm VERY disappointed at how slow it is

[jjne]

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Mine came a few weeks ago, I haven't had much time to play with it yet - but I'm VERY disappointed at how slow it is

Doesn't need to be quick -- just needs to be good at displaying video -- which it is.

Yes, you need a backend and yes, this needs to be quite meaty as you'll need to transcode some material, but it'll do me.

Currently looking into the idea of using it as a music streamer, with a small USB photo-frame as a display

Linux + HDMI = the world's your oyster

[niall campbell]

Originally Posted by captainkremmen

Indeed I wouldn't buy one until it settles down and bugs (which there are bound to be) have been fully ironed out.

As for DLNA, given YouView will allows apps to be added I wonder if some enterprising person/individual will at some stage write an app that adds DLNA to YouView boxes and have it added by the YouView chaps.

I'm the same, I rarely use catchup services as it is, only very occasionally, but I know others that use them quite a bit so for some people it could prove useful.

The Chaps better hurry up.

With the market awash with products , and the market will want access to these same features ...............

how long before the opposition get the same App of accessing all missed programmes ?

In this age of boxes for boxes , I will wait for the xbox to get this service.

Its a personal taste and it will suit some people , but I feel its too old before it was launched

with Freeview + , Freesat + , Sky + , BBCiplayer, CH4 ,, Ch5 , ITV all offering Recording , series linking & catch up services .............. the choice is staggering

and then the mobile phone can do all this as well !

[niall campbell]

Originally Posted by jjne

Doesn't need to be quick -- just needs to be good at displaying video -- which it is.

Yes, you need a backend and yes, this needs to be quite meaty as you'll need to transcode some material, but it'll do me.

Currently looking into the idea of using it as a music streamer, with a small USB photo-frame as a display

Linux + HDMI = the world's your oyster

I am afraid it has to be quick

speed is the key & so is the broadband speed to play it !

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Presumably simply providing a box, at a subsidised price, in order for subscribing to their services - don't BT already do this with BT Vision?.

Yes but the current versions of BT Vision and TalkTalk TV which provided subsidised boxes were not YouView compatible and could not receive HD broadcasts.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by tom558

Raspberry Pi,waiting for one

I installed XBMC on it and as said its painfully slow compared to say the AppleTV which works great with XBMC and at £80 it didn't cost much more when you consider I have bought:

- Raspberry Pi
- Case
- Power Adapter
- HDMI Cable
- SD Card

And I still need a remote control which I got free with my Apple TV...

[terryfc81]

I like the article mentioning about Sky, and Smart Tv at the end. It sounds great for a LG smart tv user like me. The price increase sounds unattractive, but I will probably get it anyways.

[Gary Glimmer]

I've got a smart TV which I've only looked at once or twice out of curiosity. A small PC under the TV with XBMC installed is more powerful than any of this new stuff and is so easy to use. I'm glad I'll never have to be crippled by the limited use of these so called smart devices.

[jjne]

Originally Posted by niall campbell

I am afraid it has to be quick

speed is the key & so is the broadband speed to play it !

Depends what you mean by 'quick'.

Quick as in, this thing displays all my video files at full frame-rate, or

Quick, as in it displays all the 'pretty' icons snappily.

The former is really all that matters.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by jjne

Depends what you mean by 'quick'.

Quick as in, this thing displays all my video files at full frame-rate, or

Quick, as in it displays all the 'pretty' icons snappily.

The former is really all that matters.

It has noticeable lag when navigating the menus, its pretty terrible TBH.