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Lord Freud 'Disabled people not worth paying the minimum wage'

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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    There has been discussion circulating for many years, including among disability organisations, that this should be the main drive and that people with severe disabilities should be fully supported rather than pressured in any way.
    I've seen figures that show that the extra tax income from such a policy would do far more than offset the cost of such an approach.
    However, it's clearly a sensitive issue, and nobody would touch it with a bargepole. For a start it could be seen as writing a whole group of people off, and on the other side, could also lead to accusations of malingering (which we have, frequently, anyway by those who are, er, less enlightened about disability issues)

    Alot of disabled people, disabled charities, and organisations, have loss trust in the system, they were all telling the government that the WCA being done by atos was failing sick and disabled people, and the government refused to take any notice of what was being said. And more than once kept saying the system was working well and atos doing a good job hoping that disabled people, disabled charities, and organisations would just shut up and go away, but the problem did not go away and had to admit in the end that there were problems. Then the government blamed atos, atos blamed the government, and in all of this the sick and disabled were stuck in the middle and suffering from the whole mess, and the we have the PIP mess that is still going on, and the bedroom penalty is another mess and disabled people have no trust over, so when you look at all the reforms that lord F has been incharge of effecting disabled people no one has benefited most disabled people and has caused more suffering, so no faith or trust in him or this government over disablity reforms
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    ... and you really can't say fairer than that
    (or rather unfairer than that, but you get the meaning).

    Unfortunately sometimes they can shout until they're blue in the face, but nothing improves. And ultimately, the disability organisations have to work with the system.
    Seens like only a few years back they were working together rather well and getting somewhere.
    Where on earth did it all go wrong :confused:
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