Where would you stand
TheToonArmy
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I was walking the dog tonight off the lead, he's very good off the lead but when I see another dog I always call him back and put the lead back on him.
I did this tonight as I saw another dog off the lead in front of me, I continued walking and the other dog belted towards my dog and started fighting with my dog, my dog is as soft as could be and he was wagging his tail until the other dog started biting
I instinctivly started kicking/moving the other dog away from mine, not hard but I was wearing boots as its quite snowy.
The owner who was carrying shopping ran towards me and pulled his dog away.
My question, if I hurt his dog in question, would I be liable, because after it had all happend I wished I had kicked him hard, damm hard.
I hate owners who cannot keep their dog in order, in this caes the owner taped my shoulder and said "he does not normally do this", yeah right, he was a little shitty yappy terrier who needed a good kicking.
I did this tonight as I saw another dog off the lead in front of me, I continued walking and the other dog belted towards my dog and started fighting with my dog, my dog is as soft as could be and he was wagging his tail until the other dog started biting
I instinctivly started kicking/moving the other dog away from mine, not hard but I was wearing boots as its quite snowy.
The owner who was carrying shopping ran towards me and pulled his dog away.
My question, if I hurt his dog in question, would I be liable, because after it had all happend I wished I had kicked him hard, damm hard.
I hate owners who cannot keep their dog in order, in this caes the owner taped my shoulder and said "he does not normally do this", yeah right, he was a little shitty yappy terrier who needed a good kicking.
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We can't walk our dogs "around the block" any more because some chavs leave their dogs in their front garden and they attack anything which walks past.
Was there something that makes you think this might be an issue or is it just a hypothetical question?
Personally, my spaniel is a cocky little shite but there's something about her that seems to wind other dogs up so I've been in this situation quite a bit myself and my first response is to try and grab the other dog by the collar but if that fails (either because the dog isn't wearing a collar or cos it's biting at me) then the next step would definitely be a boot up the jacksie.
Its not an issue in this case.
It was a hypothetically question, but I am getting sick of it happening and next time the kick might be a bit harder.
No, dogs don't, but some owners definately do. I have to say though that my instinct would be to use any force necessary to protect my dog[ not that I have one, now he's gone to the Rainbow bridge
Its illegal for a handler to allow their dog to be out of control! Out of control can be proved if a reasonable person watching from a distance deems it to be so!
Its happend a few times lately, but never to a point where another dog has had its mouth wrapped around my dogs leg.
The owners do need a kicking as somebody said earlier, but I am not going to apologise for kicking a dog who is attacking my dog while on the lead.
He got set upon by two Doberman a few years ago. No owner in sight, they were just left to roam a field behind where i used to live. It was complete chaos, i was trying to get inbetween them & get my dog away and into our garden. I didn't swing any kicks (didn't want to pi$$ them off even more) but a few back heels gave us a bit of space to get in.
I wouldn't want to give a dog a full on kick but depending on how vicious the attack is you have to do what you have to to get the dog off yours.
Does this happen regularly then with this particular dog attacking yours? Or do you mean other dogs in general are attacking yours?
Dogs are instinctive animals, there is going to be the occasional fracas when out and about. Most of it is posturing and noise. OP, you said the other dog was biting; how injured is your dog?
Although he had his mouth wrapped around my dogs leg he did not have a chance to bite down. he was quickly shoved away.
I checked for any blood and there was none, he just felt sorry for himself for most of the remaining walk, softy......
Not the same dog.
I am getting sick of owners who cannot be arsed to keep their dogs on the lead when they have no control of them off the lead. Thery shout at their dogs to come back and they take no notice what so ever.
FWIW, the relationship between dogs can be a rather complex heirarchical thing.
Obviously, there's never any excuse for a dog disobeying it's owner but it IS possible for an owner to be "caught out" when two dogs who simply decide they don't like each other meet for the first time.
My Labrador is 11 years old and she's honestly never been involved in any fights in her entire life.
When she was young she'd bow her head and lower her tail and generally act more submissively.
As she got older she became more and more confident until, now, she'll walk up to a 50kg Rottweiler with her tail stuck in the air and the Rottie will end up rolling over on his back and acting submissive toward her.
That's the way dogs normally act.
Thing is, as I said, my Spaniel is a cocky little shite. She's not at all aggressive but she just seems to assume all other dogs will treat her as an equal (possibly cos my Lab' does) and when they try to act dominant she gets frightened, the other dog picks up on the fear and then, sometimes, attacks her.
All this happens in a couple of seconds but, if you watch carefully, you CAN see it happening.
Just saying that, as in my case, it IS possible that a person can have a dog that's usually well-behaved but some dogs just have a knack for annoying other dogs.
That's not meant as an insult towards your dog either BTW.