What have the Conservatives got to be embarrassed about ?

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  • Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    This is the kind of thing they want us to forget:


    No cuts to front-line services

    "What I can tell you is, any cabinet minister, if I win the election, who comes to me and says: "Here are my plans," and they involve front-line reductions, they'll be sent straight back to their department to go away and think again. After 13 years of Labour, there is a lot of wasteful spending, a lot of money that doesn't reach the front line."

    Since then, 5,870 NHS nurses, 7,968 hospital beds, a third of ambulance stations, 5,362 firefighters and 6,800 frontline police officers have been cut.


    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/11/pre-election-pledges-tories-are-trying-wipe-internet


    Disgusting.
  • DanCleggDanClegg Posts: 2,002
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    This is the kind of thing they want us to forget:


    No cuts to front-line services

    "What I can tell you is, any cabinet minister, if I win the election, who comes to me and says: "Here are my plans," and they involve front-line reductions, they'll be sent straight back to their department to go away and think again. After 13 years of Labour, there is a lot of wasteful spending, a lot of money that doesn't reach the front line."

    Since then, 5,870 NHS nurses, 7,968 hospital beds, a third of ambulance stations, 5,362 firefighters and 6,800 frontline police officers have been cut.


    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/11/pre-election-pledges-tories-are-trying-wipe-internet


    Disgusting.

    Nobody.Takes.You.Seriously.
  • redhatmattredhatmatt Posts: 5,197
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    David Tee wrote: »
    Whereas I'm wondering why the same question wasn't put to Labour when they removed all their material going back to 2010. October 2010 to be precise.

    The earliest item from the news archive on Labour's site? Ed Miliband's conference speech in 2010.

    Did labour remove all their material from the web archive too?
  • MorlockMorlock Posts: 3,211
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    alan29 wrote: »
    They should be really, really embarrassed about Esther McVey - that's one thing they can't blame on Labour.

    She's obviously the blond bit of totty that the Tories imagine can 'relate to common people' with her broad regional accent. They've wheeled her out as damage limitation against the bumbling Duncan Smith. I very much doubt she is the type of person most Tories would want as a dinner party guest.
  • mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    redhatmatt wrote: »
    Did labour remove all their material from the web archive too?

    The Internet Archive's policy of removing entire sites based on the presence of a robots.txt file is nothing to do with the Conservatives - it is a side effect of not wanting crawlers to go over their site.

    They could have implemented it so that it just stopped archiving, but they chose the destructive approach.
  • redhatmattredhatmatt Posts: 5,197
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    moox wrote: »
    The Internet Archive's policy of removing entire sites based on the presence of a robots.txt file is nothing to do with the Conservatives - it is a side effect of not wanting crawlers to go over their site.

    They could have implemented it so that it just stopped archiving, but they chose the destructive approach.

    Why don't the conservative party want crawlers to go over their site?
  • mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    redhatmatt wrote: »
    Why don't the conservative party want crawlers to go over their site?

    Why don't many sites want crawlers to go over their site? It's not just the Conservatives who do it.

    Reasons for disallowing it include bandwidth costs, server load, privacy (probably not good for a political party's public documents), there are many reasons. We don't know why they did this.

    But my point is that you can't really blame the Conservatives for a third party's heavy handed approach to dealing with robots.txt - there's no reason why archive.org has to delete everything, it is just something they chose to do.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,115
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    Whichever party is deleting their previous speeches, it's surely folly in this day and age. Someone will always have them archived and be able to make them available to the public.
  • Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    Shame on those defending this orwellian-style web purge.
  • DiscombobulateDiscombobulate Posts: 4,242
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    Shame on those defending this orwellian-style web purge.

    So you'll be criticising Labour for doing it too then as its on ceefax (or whatever they call it theses days) saying they have admitted today doing the same, and that they do it on a regular basis. On BBC website too it seems



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24942040
  • Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    So you'll be criticising Labour for doing it too then as its on ceefax (or whatever they call it theses days) saying they have admitted today doing the same, and that they do it on a regular basis. On BBC website too it seems



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24942040

    If they do it in government, whilst under the same leader that got elected off those promises, yes, very much so.
  • Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    moox wrote: »
    Why don't many sites want crawlers to go over their site? It's not just the Conservatives who do it.

    Reasons for disallowing it include bandwidth costs, server load, privacy (probably not good for a political party's public documents), there are many reasons. We don't know why they did this.

    But my point is that you can't really blame the Conservatives for a third party's heavy handed approach to dealing with robots.txt - there's no reason why archive.org has to delete everything, it is just something they chose to do.

    Do you honestly believe that?!

    By pure coincidence the same deletion has happened to their YT site. I guess 'you 'can't really blame the Conservatives for a third party's heavy handed approach' for that either.:rolleyes:
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