Wrong. Negative comments were published today from Slovakia, Latvia, Finland and Germany. The reason that it always appears to be "just" Germany is that the German voice obviously is much more important in this case - as they are the ones who are giving most of the money. You can't blame them for wanting to make sure that Greece does what it promised before.
We know full well that the Greek play has been to blame the lender and say 'be nice by giving us all your money until we come back for more next year'.
Germany would be the basket case if they lent on Greek terms.
Also why you keep banging on about Russia is beyond me. .
To be fair I haven't mentioned Russia independently once.
Each time I have quoted the poster that posts about Russia incorrectly. Here is the quotes or 'banging on about Russia' in your words..that I replied to..
As you say, they could do that; the only thing that is preventing it is that the Russian leadership are a gang of mafiosi godfathers who are unlikely give money they need to keep paying their secret policement to a proven deadbeat like Greece
If the Greeks think the Germans are bad, just wait till they try the Russians or Chinese. They will demand loan repayments even if the Greeks are eating grass.
We know full well that the Greek play has been to blame the lender and say 'be nice by giving us all your money until we come back for more next year'.
Germany would be the basket case if they lent on Greek terms.
Ahhh yes... other EU heavyweights there.. :D:D Fooling no one.
Everyone knows this is between Germany and Greece.
Seeing as it has to be an unanimous decision, what has being a heavyweight got to do with it? Even if Germany said yes, as long as Slovakia or anybody else says no, then no it is.
Seeing as it has to be an unanimous decision, what has being a heavyweight got to do with it? Even if Germany said yes, as long as Slovakia or anybody else says no, then no it is.
Quite right. Besides, even if it's a relatively small amount when compared to Germany, France etc, it is definitely hard for a country like Slovakia to give Billions of Euro for the financial stability of other countries. Really, nothing to laugh about. And it explains why they want to make sure that Greece doesn't just screw the Eurozone again.
Seeing as it has to be an unanimous decision, what has being a heavyweight got to do with it?
Slovakia and Finland are in Germany's back pocket and usually give a token gesture to supplicate to Merkel.
Anyone with any basic understanding of what is going realises, the silence from France, Spain, Italy, Austria, etc speaks far more than Slovakia backing Germany once again... as a token gesture.
According to here, the Germans should pay it all and just write it off, time and time again.
And here, that Greek debt was all caused by Germany
:rolleyes:
Who has been the main champions of the single currency? Who has an economy which has done quite well out of the single currency at the expense of others? Who were happy to let Greece in to fulfill their Euro dream?
Do Syriza really hold their own people in such contempt that they are willing to align themselves with Vladimir Putin's Russia?
You borrow from gangsters you will pay a price one way or another. Even on a national level.
Greece learnt that from their dealings with Goldman Sachs. Russia, by comparison, is honest. Note 'by comparison'.
Not possible, there are some on here who mistakenly think a major reason for the EEC was to prevent wars.
I think stopping wars was a major reason the EEC, as it originally was, was set up.
In the nineties, when the euro was about to start, I thought that when an economic crisis happened, whatever its nature, the differing needs of EZ countries would tear the euro, and possibly the EU, apart, with much bad feeling. If Greece is forced out, and 'contagion' forces the ex-fascist states of Italy and Spain out, amidst continent wide economic chaos, then war can't be ruled out.
I'm describing the worst case outcome, hopefully it won't come to that. But the Germans must be mad to reject the latest offer from Greece, it'll force them out, and the consequences could be severe.
Who has been the main champions of the single currency? Who has an economy which has done quite well out of the single currency at the expense of others? Who were happy to let Greece in to fulfill their Euro dream?
It's no deservedly bowing up in their faces.
And who was the first to break the rules of the euro? Germany and France. Being big players they escaped punishment.
Slovakia and Finland are in Germany's back pocket and usually give a token gesture to supplicate to Merkel.
Anyone with any basic understanding of what is going realises, the silence from France, Spain, Italy, Austria, etc speaks far more than Slovakia backing Germany once again... as a token gesture.
Of course they are silent, they want Germany to give in because it will give them a precedent to allow them to be more wasteful in their own spending.
Anyone with any basic understanding of what is going realises, the silence from France, Spain, Italy, Austria, etc speaks far more...
There is no rule under either EU or international law that prevents a sub-group of one or more Eurozone member states loaning Greece money on a bilateral or multilateral basis if they feel the collective Eurozone member states are being too inflexible.
So far there appears to be a distinct absence of member states who are willing to do so though. "Silence" most definitely does not mean "Support", as you seem to believe, as can be seen by their actions.
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Ahhh yes... other EU heavyweights there..
Everyone knows this is between Germany and Greece.
Germany would be the basket case if they lent on Greek terms.
Oh, it feels quite BNP here.
To be fair I haven't mentioned Russia independently once.
Each time I have quoted the poster that posts about Russia incorrectly. Here is the quotes or 'banging on about Russia' in your words..that I replied to..
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How come?
H'mmmmm. Must have missed that.
Shame, as you could have emigrated.
Quite right. Besides, even if it's a relatively small amount when compared to Germany, France etc, it is definitely hard for a country like Slovakia to give Billions of Euro for the financial stability of other countries. Really, nothing to laugh about. And it explains why they want to make sure that Greece doesn't just screw the Eurozone again.
Perhaps he's thinking of the old Right wing junta of the Colonels - more your cup of tea I would have thought.
And here, that Greek debt was all caused by Germany
:rolleyes:
Slovakia and Finland are in Germany's back pocket and usually give a token gesture to supplicate to Merkel.
Anyone with any basic understanding of what is going realises, the silence from France, Spain, Italy, Austria, etc speaks far more than Slovakia backing Germany once again... as a token gesture.
Who has been the main champions of the single currency? Who has an economy which has done quite well out of the single currency at the expense of others? Who were happy to let Greece in to fulfill their Euro dream?
It's no deservedly bowing up in their faces.
From your link,
Greece has promised early retirement to about 700,000 employees, or 14 percent of its work force, giving it an average retirement age of 61
Greece learnt that from their dealings with Goldman Sachs. Russia, by comparison, is honest. Note 'by comparison'.
I think stopping wars was a major reason the EEC, as it originally was, was set up.
In the nineties, when the euro was about to start, I thought that when an economic crisis happened, whatever its nature, the differing needs of EZ countries would tear the euro, and possibly the EU, apart, with much bad feeling. If Greece is forced out, and 'contagion' forces the ex-fascist states of Italy and Spain out, amidst continent wide economic chaos, then war can't be ruled out.
I'm describing the worst case outcome, hopefully it won't come to that. But the Germans must be mad to reject the latest offer from Greece, it'll force them out, and the consequences could be severe.
And who was the first to break the rules of the euro? Germany and France. Being big players they escaped punishment.
Someone will blink.
Not going to get a pension though
Welcome to the 4th Reich , Germany wants payment
You said Greeks retire at 50, that's not the case, and your link showed that, with just a minority retiring at 50.
There is no rule under either EU or international law that prevents a sub-group of one or more Eurozone member states loaning Greece money on a bilateral or multilateral basis if they feel the collective Eurozone member states are being too inflexible.
So far there appears to be a distinct absence of member states who are willing to do so though. "Silence" most definitely does not mean "Support", as you seem to believe, as can be seen by their actions.