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Is Tesco in trouble? - 5bn loss

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    toofasttoofast Posts: 2,240
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    Andrue wrote: »
    They've got to expensive what?

    Too. Too. Too. Too. Too.
    Too. Grrrr.
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    CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    ^ It's choo choo, not Too Too if you're a train.
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    jackoljackol Posts: 7,887
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    "Is Tesco in trouble"

    I hope not, we shop there, it's my favourite place to food shop


    I used to but now use Asda and Sainsburys and Morrisons. 12 months ago the local 24 superstore was always packed with people. There is now a noticable difference whenever i venture in there. Treat customers like crap and they go elsewhere
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    Thine WonkThine Wonk Posts: 17,190
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    1MJ1 wrote: »
    They're hardly in trouble and are far from going bust. They've written money off, hence the paper loss.

    Their sales are improving of late.

    Tesco's debt and liabilities are high, they already have £7.5bn debt and these write downs will be added to it. A credit rating downgrade could mean that large investors are not allowed to invest as major investors are banned from taking out any new investment in junk grade companies that have more liabilities than assets.

    Things are critical, if it were a ship the sirens are sounding and there's water gushing into the hull, this year will be touch and go as to whether it can be saved.
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    CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    Don't get excited, it's mainly an accounting trick after revaluing their property assets after a new chief executive came in or something. They just cleared out the cupboards and blamed it on the old guy so that for the coming quarters they can keep posting PROFITS OMG
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    gulliverfoylegulliverfoyle Posts: 6,318
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    Don't get excited, it's mainly an accounting trick after revaluing their property assets after a new chief executive came in or something. They just cleared out the cupboards and blamed it on the old guy so that for the coming quarters they can keep posting PROFITS OMG

    thats a bit like saying italy or greece is ok because it runs a primary surplus

    tesco embarked on a huge expansion based on cheap debt

    the problem is the market changed

    they are in big trouble

    they will prob be taken over
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    corfcorf Posts: 1,499
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    operating profit for the year, the loss is mainly them devaluing their stores. Pension deficit is the only concern (and their reputation)

    Do you suffer a loss when your house price changes - no - Its an accounting trick - they are sound and I believe will be a good share investment.
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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    thats a bit like saying italy or greece is ok because it runs a primary surplus

    tesco embarked on a huge expansion based on cheap debt

    the problem is the market changed

    they are in big trouble

    they will prob be taken over

    Tesco will not be taken over by anyone, they will are not in big trouble, they own that much land that they brought over the years but never built on. But you dont do a mass sale of it you despose of it slowly that way you keep the value up. All super markets have been doing this for years.
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    Ancient IDTVAncient IDTV Posts: 10,175
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    I used too shop at Tesco, but now I shop at Tesco.
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    Sky_GuySky_Guy Posts: 6,859
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    I don't see why people switch to Aldi or Lidl, the quality of their own brand and cheap brand is rubbish.
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    PorcupinePorcupine Posts: 25,250
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    I like Tesco. I live in a rural area and we don't have anywhere else to shop apart from a very small Budgens (which is hopeless and expensive). I have bought no end of stuff from Tesco including my TV and bed online as well as my weekly shopping. I collect the points and then triple them for meals out.

    My only quibble is their meat which isn't very good quality and I now buy meat from the butchers.

    I hope they don't get taken over.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    Sky_Guy wrote: »
    I don't see why people switch to Aldi or Lidl, the quality of their own brand and cheap brand is rubbish.

    Because they don't find it rubbish, obv.
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    HenryGartenHenryGarten Posts: 24,800
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    They should stop trying to open stores where they are not wanted.
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    HenryGartenHenryGarten Posts: 24,800
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    1MJ1 wrote: »
    They're hardly in trouble and are far from going bust. They've written money off, hence the paper loss.

    Their sales are improving of late.

    Do you know how long it takes to count to £1 billion at one number per second?
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    Sky_GuySky_Guy Posts: 6,859
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    So they have lost six hundred thousand million. That's almost the whole revenue of Sky.
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    SOHCAHTOA88SOHCAHTOA88 Posts: 2,314
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    Porcupine wrote: »
    I like Tesco. I live in a rural area and we don't have anywhere else to shop apart from a very small Budgens (which is hopeless and expensive). I have bought no end of stuff from Tesco including my TV and bed online as well as my weekly shopping. I collect the points and then triple them for meals out.

    My only quibble is their meat which isn't very good quality and I now buy meat from the butchers.

    I hope they don't get taken over.

    Dont worry, they wont. As a few people have mentioned the loss was created by a one off write off. They have not had a good year and they acknowledge that the market will remain difficult however this was an opportunity for them to clear out anything remotely iffy on their balance sheet all in one bad news day. Underlying trading, whilst down is still ok and they have put a recovery plan in place.
    The markets reaction made little impact on their share price.
    That's because the market understands what Tesco is doing.
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    rumpleteazerrumpleteazer Posts: 5,746
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    Sky_Guy wrote: »
    I don't see why people switch to Aldi or Lidl, the quality of their own brand and cheap brand is rubbish.

    Because it's not rubbish? I've found Aldi products equal or better than Tesco, especially the meat.

    But each to their own.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,419
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    Do you know how long it takes to count to £1 billion at one number per second?

    1 billion seconds at a guess.
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    annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    They should stop trying to open stores where they are not wanted.

    there was a loud campaign against here [in this village], a petition went round, there were meetings all up and down and campaigners were up in arms about the safety of the children.

    at one point someone posted posters of the bristol [?] protest when things were set fire to [?] as though in some kind of threat :D:D:D:D.

    about 10% of villagers supported the it`d be ok if it were a waitrose brigade, tesco eventually opened and i can guarantee they all shop in it now.
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    BelligerenceBelligerence Posts: 40,613
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    Sky_Guy wrote: »
    I don't see why people switch to Aldi or Lidl, the quality of their own brand and cheap brand is rubbish.
    Aldi's cupboard items are as good if not better than Tesco's.

    In fact most stuff you'll find there pisses over the competition.
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    Chris FrostChris Frost Posts: 11,022
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    Do you know how long it takes to count to £1 billion at one number per second?
    All depends on the number. If counting in billions then it's a second.
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    ianxianx Posts: 9,190
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    1MJ1 wrote: »
    1 billion seconds at a guess.
    Oh, so close. You're one second out.
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    Chris FrostChris Frost Posts: 11,022
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    All of the major supermarkets are in trouble to some degree. The exceptions are the German discounters and Waitrose which has done surprisingly well despite the recession.
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    HHGTTGHHGTTG Posts: 5,941
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    I steered cleared of Tesco for many years until, what was a local DIY store shut down and became a Tesco albeit not the biggest around.
    I find them very good for vegetables and a are far better than the massive Sainsburys in Otford, near Sevenoaks in that respect alnone. They sell packets of mixed Broccoli and Cauliflower that look much healthier in appearance and more generous in size than the manky looking packs in JS. I really don't know why Sainsburys are so bad in this respect.
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    HenryGartenHenryGarten Posts: 24,800
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    ianx wrote: »
    Oh, so close. You're one second out.

    Nearly 32 years actually.
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