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Why on Earth shouldn't Angie Best mention about health stuff like the lymph nodes?.
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Just because that fat lazy smoker Colleen feels bad about herself as she's dragging on her cancer stick.
And I don't know why Callum is arse kissing Colleen about it.
I don't think any of the others mind when Angie goes on about it. It's just acceptance that people are different and say different things. I think Angie is fairly accepting now that a lot of them don't look after themselves that well.
Colleen is in complete denial about the state of her health and probably is even more defensive about it seeing as she lost her sister to cancer. If that doesn't make you overhaul your health then nothing will!
And I don't know why Callum is arse kissing Colleen about it.
I don't think any of the others mind when Angie goes on about it. It's just acceptance that people are different and say different things. I think Angie is fairly accepting now that a lot of them don't look after themselves that well.
Colleen is in complete denial about the state of her health and probably is even more defensive about it seeing as she lost her sister to cancer. If that doesn't make you overhaul your health then nothing will!
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If it's acceptance that people are 'different' then she's the one who needs to be more accepting.
Its not about he not mentioning it. but she seems to preach. Constantly.
Why would you applaud someone being spiteful, tactless and nasty?
Maybe becuase, unlike you, he can see that his mum's being spiteful, tactless and nasty?
But that's none of her business though and if she's not specifically asked for health/dietary/keep fit advice - she should STFU and leave them to it.
What's it to her?
She's completely overbearing and nobody gives a shit about her old bollocks.
Is she?
Then why did you say she feels bad about herself?
Make your mind up.
(That description also describes Coleen aswelll.... but hey ho!!!)
But she's not telling them what to do,
I think my point is that no one else seems to be that bothered by her apart from Colleen as she's effectively holding a mirror up to her about her self care and habits.
As both are the older women of the house Angie makes Colleen feel bad about herself when really she should be looking after herself better. Almost every time we see Colleen she's smoking.
Colleen probably won't be around that long if she's carries on like that. And that's a real shame for her family.
The other housemates all shut down when she's talking about health, and give off very obvious body language signals that they are not interested and feel uncomfortable. The way she doesn't pick up on this only serves to make them irritated. Their health is none of her business in there. They haven't sought her help or advice, so she has no right to keep offering it.
Also, this is just a sidenote, but her "advice" about lymphnodes wasn't advice at all. It was a statement about how rebounding is good for the body. Advice would have been to tell them to bend their knees or engage their core! Can you tell I've been to rebounding (mini trampoline) classes in the past?
Oh, and also, Angie went on about organic food on the launch night live feed, which shows she's not particularly clued up, as recent studies have shown it is not healthier than conventional foods: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/think-organic-food-is-better-for-you-animals-and-the-planet-thin/
Yes it's stupid but it's an addiction and a hard one to break but I'm sure you know this already.
Angie's haranguing of Colleen is MORE likely to make her reach for a **** and a cake, not less so.
Angie is very patronising and lecturing. She seems to thinknshe is conveying new information to them and seems inable to accept that they probabky already know about what the poisons they are taking are doing yo their bodies and minds but are allowed to make that choice for themselves as they are adults.
Even if the info was new to them, she has told them now, no need to keep saying it again and again.
How would people feel if there was a deeply religious person in there who was constantly trying to 're educate' and 'convert' the housemates to their faith? Going on about their spiritual well being and going to hell? Even when they'd been asked to stop again and again?
Is that what you think of people who are over weight? Fat, Lazy! That's not always the case and I don't see her as being lazy at all.
As for the smoking, we all know the risks from smoking and even when a family member dies from Cancer it doesn't make you jump out of bed the next day and quit! its a very hard thing to do. She has battled with her weight for years, there's no denial from her on that score.
A mirror nobody, least of all Coleen, asked her to hold up. How Coleen lives her life is up to Coleen. It's none of Angues business. If Collens family is concerned, then it is up yo them to talk to her and hire outdude help for an intervention if needs be.
I don't think.any of the smokers and drinkers are enjoying having her come over and lecturing them constantly. I mean that sums it up, she is so on it. She goes over to the smoking area to lecture them whilst they are having a break. And she loved having the power yo deny them a **** during the task earlier in the week. Even though it is an addiction.
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There are probably many reasons why Colleen feels the need to smoke, and they are none of Angie's business.
Get her out!!!
bib - yes, that's it really. Her manner and her lack of awareness of how she's turning people off the subject. I admire that she's dedicated to her job, but in that house nobody asked for her services as a fitness and health instructor and she needs to give it a rest.
Obviously there are a few that are exercising and she's helping them with that, but they ask for that help and all is good there, but Colleen and others haven't asked and some of the remarks that Angie makes are pretty rude.
She's almost got a silly comment to make. I don't smoke and if it bothered me I wouldn't go and sit outside in the bloody area! Her on the sly weight comments are annoying. I'm sure of Callum wasn't in there numerous people would have told her to shut the hell up.
I'm sure she said that if you bounce your lymph nodes bump together to help drainage? Did i hear that correctly?
All of this. Plus it is annoying others.
Quote "Water isn't for drinking its for washing in" Nicola
Quote "You can't cook lettuce" Ray J
and did you see the body language from the five who she was asked to coach in a detox or whatever that nonsense was. It was closed and hostile from 4 of them and closed and squirming from Callum.
I don't think Stephen Baldwin was that bad
I mean arguably a healthy 'mind' is as important as a healthy body and if you're irritating people with your advice then it's counter-productive (even assuming your advice is sound - which is an other debate).
Ha! True.
Thing is, even he was more self aware than Angie!
I don't think Angie's attacking anyone or meaning it in a nasty way, if anything she means well but it never goes down well when someone tries to force their views down people's throats. .
Yes, I was coming in to say just that.
If she had even the most basic understanding of psychology, she would see that going on about it the way she does (which is aggressive and insulting as well as condescending) about it unsolicited is liable to make people dig their heels in and do what she is advising against more just to be diffucukt and show they won't be nagged or bullied into submission. So, if she actually cares about their health, she's scoring an own goal.
I heard all the messages about the harmful effects of smoking when I was in my teens in the 80s. That, along with the expense, has meant that I have never been a smoker except for the occasional social one (& I do mean occasional, probably no more than 20 my entire life). But I know that if I wss in there, I'd probably pick a packet up just to spite her.
Coleen knows the dangers of smoking. She knows she's overweight. She is aware thst she comfort eats. She already feels rotten and hates herself for it, last ghing she needs os somebody making herself feel worse. That's not going to motivate her at all.
Notice hi4w Angie is concentrating on her the most rather than someone like James Jordan or Jamie who also smoke and enjoy eating crap. Could it be that Coleen is the easiest target?
I don't even much like Coleen by the way but am comeyely on her side with this.
Exactly.
I also don't think she means it in a nasty way and means well. And of course she's used to LA which is almost militant in it's health kick mentality and where people pay a fortune to be abused by their fitness instructors and life coaches.
Plus I suspect it is a natural part of her personality. Just as moaning is Coleens and winding people up is James'.