Two current labour MP's an ex Labour ??? a ex Tory and a smattering of Liddems are known to have frequented rent boys, a rather infamous hated ex MP was allegedly known to have visited Elm Guest house in the eighties, Millibland has at least one unsavoury MP in his cabinet who frequently trawls the web searching for underage porn I'm told.
don't forget Teflon protected his lot with a 'D' notice in 2003....... Operation Ore......
it isn't one party that has something to hide (as some would like to think)....... when you scratch deep enough you'll find that all parties have their pervs......
don't forget Teflon protected his lot with a 'D' notice in 2003....... Operation Ore......
it isn't one party that has something to hide (as some would like to think)....... when you scratch deep enough you'll find that all parties have their pervs......
The problem is that power naturally attracts psychopathy and that tends to bring with it people whose persona revolves around dominance of the vulnerable.
It's likely that this paedophile ring includes those types - MPs, chief constables, media moguls, industrial leaders, lord chief justices, head civil servants, etc. In other words, all the people who can make any suggestions go away.
There is no way the victims will ever get justice. A proper, thorough independent enquiry would bring down the Tories and shame the UK before the world,
Judges are so sort on this type of crime. I remember reading when one judge said all men who work with children fancied children to a degree but managed their urges.
Judges are so sort on this type of crime. I remember reading when one judge said all men who work with children fancied children to a degree but managed their urges.
Have a google it may be there? Was years ago.
I don't understand what this has to do with my post that you quoted.
A few highly placed paedophiles committing terrible crimes and getting away with it is a shocking allegation which needs investigating. However there's an implication that the whole of Parliament was involved in a conspiracy to cover up. That's not necessarily the case at all. A well connected group would be more than capable of keeping themselves out of trouble without the need for such a conspiracy. The trouble is people have such a low opinion of politicians that they are prepared to believe the worst about alleged of them.
A small percentage of the population are paedophiles. Therefore it's not surprising that a few judges and politicians are too. Why do people imagine otherwise?
A few highly placed paedophiles committing terrible crimes and getting away with it is a shocking allegation which needs investigating. However there's an implication that the whole of Parliament was involved in a conspiracy to cover up. That's not necessarily the case at all.
It has been admitted by a (I think) Conservative whip that they would hold 'secrets' of MPs, including 'problems with little boys'. It might seem shocking now, but, sexual abuse of children wasn't taken as seriously 30+ years ago.
It's all about protecting their parties. It's about wanting to retain power and it spiralled from there. I agree that most politicians won't be involved in a cover-up or else the likes of Dickens and others wouldn't have raised the issue. Dickens was a Tory btw, and a former Labour MP is now going to be re-investigated despite claims he now has dementia. This concerns all the main political parties, both for good and bad.
I'm not sure why people are so quick to dismiss that snuff movies exist.
Myra Hindley and Iain Brady tape recorded the murder of Lesley Anne Downey - there were no video recorders in those days - if there were I'm fairly certain they'd have recorded it. There are very sick individuals in society - why are the existence of snuff movies so difficult to believe?
I'm not sure why people are so quick to dismiss that snuff movies exist.
Myra Hindley and Iain Brady tape recorded the murder of Lesley Anne Downey - there were no video recorders in those days - if there were I'm fairly certain they'd have recorded it. There are very sick individuals in society - why are the existence of snuff movies so difficult to believe?
Agreed, there are other examples of killers actually filming (and not just tape recording) their victims too. Maury Travis, US serial killer being a case in point.
There are even websites like Liveleak and worse that I won't mention that show all manner of horrific things, so I really don't know why it's so much of a stretch for some to believe it's entirely plausible.
A few highly placed paedophiles committing terrible crimes and getting away with it is a shocking allegation which needs investigating. However there's an implication that the whole of Parliament was involved in a conspiracy to cover up. That's not necessarily the case at all. A well connected group would be more than capable of keeping themselves out of trouble without the need for such a conspiracy. The trouble is people have such a low opinion of politicians that they are prepared to believe the worst about alleged of them.
A small percentage of the population are paedophiles. Therefore it's not surprising that a few judges and politicians are too. Why do people imagine otherwise?
If they're a thing, there must be SOMEONE willing to take that million bucks.
There are undoubtedly cases where murderers have filmed their antics for their ownh thrills but think the definition of snuff movies is that the murder took place to have a film for distribution (even if very limited). I can well believe that any that have been identified as such have been exposed as fake. I reckon that it is unlikely that there are snuff movies but not impossible that there might have been a wee few made and distributed. If you are into this for the money. I would have thought that it would make much better business sense to fake it.
I'm not sure why people are so quick to dismiss that snuff movies exist.
Myra Hindley and Iain Brady tape recorded the murder of Lesley Anne Downey - there were no video recorders in those days - if there were I'm fairly certain they'd have recorded it. There are very sick individuals in society - why are the existence of snuff movies so difficult to believe?
I'm not quick to dismiss that snuff movies exist. First heard about them in the 80's, but since then there has not been any evidence for their existence. Not sure why people believe they exist without any evidence, especially in this instance. There may have been a paedophile ring amongst senior politicians, therefore they must have also produced snuff movies - where's the logic in that?.
Serial murderers recording their crimes would not be classed as a snuff movies.
There was a documentary on ITV in the 90s that claimed a child pornography ring had accidentally killed a child on camera, which isn't strictly a snuff movie but I don't think it's beyond the bounds of possibility that it and similar others might have been distributed, or maybe even established a market for it.
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it isn't one party that has something to hide (as some would like to think)....... when you scratch deep enough you'll find that all parties have their pervs......
The problem is that power naturally attracts psychopathy and that tends to bring with it people whose persona revolves around dominance of the vulnerable.
It's likely that this paedophile ring includes those types - MPs, chief constables, media moguls, industrial leaders, lord chief justices, head civil servants, etc. In other words, all the people who can make any suggestions go away.
What, all of them? You really don't have a clue, do you.
Obviously not Pauline
Haven't you showed yourself up enough on here with your odd request to sample snuff movies?
There can only whitewash and coverup.
Its you who is showing yourself up because she never made any such request. She asked for evidence that they existed, not a sample.
Sworn testimony from someone who 'starred' in one?
Oh, wait......
Try a link to a mainstream media source on the subject.
Is this a serious question?
Oh yes
Judges are so sort on this type of crime. I remember reading when one judge said all men who work with children fancied children to a degree but managed their urges.
Have a google it may be there? Was years ago.
I don't understand what this has to do with my post that you quoted.
A small percentage of the population are paedophiles. Therefore it's not surprising that a few judges and politicians are too. Why do people imagine otherwise?
Myra Hindley and Iain Brady tape recorded the murder of Lesley Anne Downey - there were no video recorders in those days - if there were I'm fairly certain they'd have recorded it. There are very sick individuals in society - why are the existence of snuff movies so difficult to believe?
Agreed, there are other examples of killers actually filming (and not just tape recording) their victims too. Maury Travis, US serial killer being a case in point.
There are even websites like Liveleak and worse that I won't mention that show all manner of horrific things, so I really don't know why it's so much of a stretch for some to believe it's entirely plausible.
and a smaller proportion act on their desire.
If they're a thing, there must be SOMEONE willing to take that million bucks.
Goldstein only died a year ago, and afaik the cash was still unclaimed.
There are undoubtedly cases where murderers have filmed their antics for their ownh thrills but think the definition of snuff movies is that the murder took place to have a film for distribution (even if very limited). I can well believe that any that have been identified as such have been exposed as fake. I reckon that it is unlikely that there are snuff movies but not impossible that there might have been a wee few made and distributed. If you are into this for the money. I would have thought that it would make much better business sense to fake it.
I'm not quick to dismiss that snuff movies exist. First heard about them in the 80's, but since then there has not been any evidence for their existence. Not sure why people believe they exist without any evidence, especially in this instance. There may have been a paedophile ring amongst senior politicians, therefore they must have also produced snuff movies - where's the logic in that?.
Serial murderers recording their crimes would not be classed as a snuff movies.
It's on youtube (the documentary, not the video).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZbbxHFKHQ