Views on catholic communions
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I am asking this on behalf of a friend who does not have internet access.
He is a protestant and his partner is catholic. they had seperated when their daughter was only 2 and then got back together a year later. While they were not together his partner decided that she was getting their daughter baptized a catholic.
It is now coming up to the communion stage for his daughter although she is not at a catholic school due to issues with transport to the catholic school when she was starting.
My friend feels that the kid should have no religion and be left to choose for herself when older but he feels that using this as his only point against commmunion would only result in his partner saying if he feels that way then she can be catholic then choose to change when older if she wishes.
What he wants to know is why is it that people see catholic communions as been wrong apart from a child should be allowed to choose their own religion?
He is a protestant and his partner is catholic. they had seperated when their daughter was only 2 and then got back together a year later. While they were not together his partner decided that she was getting their daughter baptized a catholic.
It is now coming up to the communion stage for his daughter although she is not at a catholic school due to issues with transport to the catholic school when she was starting.
My friend feels that the kid should have no religion and be left to choose for herself when older but he feels that using this as his only point against commmunion would only result in his partner saying if he feels that way then she can be catholic then choose to change when older if she wishes.
What he wants to know is why is it that people see catholic communions as been wrong apart from a child should be allowed to choose their own religion?
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First it indoctrinates children before they have a chance to evaluate religion generally and catholicism in particular, by 'autoenrolling' them in one specific religion
Secondly; transubstantiation, the belief that the bread and wine actually become part of Jesus' body at the moment of communion.
I was made to do it and now resent it. I can't take away my 'catholic' status but was never able to choose for myself.
And with a bit of luck she doesn't get felt up by the priest.
Of course I can choose to not be religious, but I'll always be baptised catholic, I've always made the sacraments and it's always a part of my records. I dread to think that sometime in a hundred years from now ancestors will be saying, "Ooh, my great, great granny was a catholic" She wasn't, she just can't undo the decision her mother made.
Bit melodramatic! Of course you can change your faith or religious identity! My dad is atheist and my mum Catholic and neither forced us into any faith. Two of my children opted for communion themselves - no forcing. They enjoyed the experience, take their faith seriously but not at the detriment to having a 'normal' life.
I chose to follow and continue in the Catholic faith, only because it feels right to me but I will not be upset if any of my kids doesn't carry on their faith - my eldest decided it wasn't for her and didn't have communion and doesn't go to church. So what? it's her choice.
Your 'identity' or 'status' is what you decide it to be. There is no right or wrong.
PS the Catholic faith is undergoing a witch hunt -people must remember there will sadly, always be perverts in society some are teachers, doctors, Rabbis, Vicars etc and all should be struck off and punished accordingly, but it seems that this faith is being highlighted as the only culture that has paedophiles or dodgy ministers.
By dint of the fact they have access to youngsters, and garner trust from people, many professions will be targeted by sickos unfortunately. Oops gone off topic - sorry:o
So because you don't have the same opinion as I do, I'm being melodramatic?
I do absolutely resent that I was baptised into a church I don't believe in and that I have absolutely no respect for. To make things even more frustrating my mother now has turned her back on the church too and hasn't a good word to say for them.
I can tell people what my beliefs are, but officially, I am and always will be catholic. I don't appreciate that.
Melodramatic or frustrated that as opposed to them as I am, I'm counted as one of their number?
I,m feel exactly the same
If that is his only reason but he feels it isn't strong enough - isn't it rather hypocritical to fish around on an internet forum for stronger reasons to justify it?
Up to 2009 you could formally leave the Catholic church but I understand that the Holy See removed that right. I assume this was at least in part related to the number of people excommunicating themseleves.
You can apparently 'resign' from the Church if you so wish. Take a look at Google or Wikipedia for the process; I assume that is valid.
In terms of 'Catholicness', you can just simply not practice and have nothing to do with the Church. Apparently the Church uses census data rather than baptism records to count the number of Catholics in the world.
I decided he could choose whether to do his Confirmation or not
I was brought up Catholic and have 'done' all three - the last one by choice.
It's worth me looking into.
No, you're being melodramatic because it does not affect your day to day life (unless you want it to). My husband was baptised Catholic, but now declares himself an atheist - he doesn't go around feeling he's been hard done by by his parents - it means nothing to him! And, yes, maybe I do think you are being over the top - maybe i'm biased because I had something far worse happen to me when I was a child (let's just say it wasn't a priest) and I learnt to let it go and not dictate the rest of my life. So, instead of 'resenting' it - let it go and just live your life the way you want. If you don't believe in God, then why be bothered about a small ceremony that happened when you were a baby?
I've had far worse happen to me too, it's not a bleeding hearts competition.
I do declare myself an atheist, it doesn't mean I don't resent that I'm baptised a catholic. Yes you are being biased, but I think that's less to do with anything that has happened and more do with your defence of your religion.
Me and my husband aren't religious, science has overruled any religious beliefs we both may have had at one point. We do openly discuss science and religion with our son without giving any opinion, it's up to him.
If he wants to go through communion when he's old enough then we'll support it, if not, then we'll support that too.
There is peer pressure in catholic primaries (I remember one where a lad turned up in a horse-drawn carriage, and another where a little girl's Mum said "Its the only time I'll ever see her in white.") In those circumstances it has almost nothing to do with religion and almost everything to do with tribal identity.
If she doesn't go to a catholic school or a catholic church ...... why on earth would they want the communion thing?
From your aggressive tone and talk of 'bleeding hearts' etc I think your problems have little to do with religion!
Oh, and by the way, nothing in my posts are defensive - just my thoughts on the topic as the OP wanted a discussion on communion! And if you've had 'far worse happen' then put the baptism into perspective, just saying!!
You were baptised Catholic because thats what your parents felt was right for you to do at that time, because at a couple of months old, you were too young to talk, walk, crawl or anything else, nevermind understand the world of religion and make an informed decision on which one best represents you and your life.
Get over yourself and stop been a drama queen.
All i am trying to say is don't let something like this rule your life - it happened - if you don't want to be a Christian, or want to change faith do it! It's what feels right for you - not anyone else.:)
I was never baptised so I never had to do the whole communion and confirmation thing. Lucky me
Or get divorced, they'll soon want rid of you.
I know I am naive but it strikes me as odd that your friend is not asking his catholic partner.