It does on the Greek islands, where the sewer pipes aren't wide enough to cope with even normal bog-roll. They keep a wicker bin beside the loo for all their used paper. Imagine that in 35 degrees heat.
I can't do it. I just cant!
Whenever I'm in holiday & they have those signs up, I'm afraid they just get ignored.
I know that makes me a terrible human being... But the thought of used toiled paper, and the smell of it, sitting in a bucket a few meters away from where I'm sleeping...
I remember going to a public place which was 1960s style and it was in this country and when I went to the toilet, there was a bin next to the toilet and a notice requesting us not to flush toilet paper down the toilet! (But I did anyway).
Whenever I'm in holiday & they have those signs up, I'm afraid they just get ignored.
I know that makes me a terrible human being... But the thought of used toiled paper, and the smell of it, sitting in a bucket a few meters away from where I'm sleeping...
I was in Tenerife in February and never once put my poo stained toilet roll in the bin, that's just uncivilised. They need to sort themselves out and get to a place where it's acceptable to flush loo roll.
On another note; I was told by a plumber to flush the loo a spare couple of times every day. This keeps more water down the sluice and helps keep it clear. He said most problems now are people on water meters not putting enough water down the drain, or people not running taps enough. The drains need plenty of water to function, and blockages occur when stuff builds up without enough water to carry it into the big main. He must be right because 2 people I know, who are both on water meters, and cut back on their water usage, have both had dynorod out due to problems.
Also; if you are in a pre-war property; it's probably got a rat-trap in the sewer pipe. These were done away with post-war, and people who flush wetwipes can end up with these traps blocked whereas other properties don't.
I was in Tenerife in February and never once put my poo stained toilet roll in the bin, that's just uncivilised. They need to sort themselves out and get to a place where it's acceptable to flush loo roll.
Another option is to take nappy bags with you when you go abroad. Put your soiled toilet tissue into the nappy bag and tie it tightly, then place it in the bin provided. If necessary, place the sealed bag into another nappy bag (double bagging).
ETA: One could say that, in comparison to some countries where they use bidets or very modern toilets that have a little shower doo-hicky to clean your dirty bottom, that we are the uncivilised ones by still using toilet paper
That thread the other day about toilets proved interesting, led me to reading about countries where they consider wiping with toilet paper a very old-fashioned thing to do. Reading up on it, water is the much better option and much nicer for the old arse too
I think that a large utility company, eg Thames Water, or better still all of them together, should create a defined standard for any paper or wipes, based upon how quickly it disintigrates in turbulent water
They could create a stamp or crest or something that manufactuters could use on their packaging once their product meets the standard. This would put pressure on manufacturers to try and develop a better product, and be seen to be environmentally caring, and give an incentive to be the first to achieve it and get a march on their oposition.
I believe there are discussions between water companies and wipes manufacturers, but at present while manufacturers continue to sell "flushable" wipes which do not break down, they do not seem to be trying very hard. So I think water companies should be more proactive.
I think that a large utility company, eg Thames Water, or better still all of them together, should create a defined standard for any paper or wipes, based upon how quickly it disintigrates in turbulent water
They could create a stamp or crest or something that manufactuters could use on their packaging once their product meets the standard. This would put pressure on manufacturers to try and develop a better product, and be seen to be environmentally caring, and give an incentive to be the first to achieve it and get a march on their oposition.
I believe there are discussions between water companies and wipes manufacturers, but at present while manufacturers continue to sell "flushable" wipes which do not break down, they do not seem to be trying very hard. So I think water companies should be more proactive.
Yes it seems a good idea, although you are still relying on the public to follow the rules - whatever they may be - that are set down. You'll always get lazy or ignorant people doing whatever they like, although if it stops even half of it then it'd be better than nothing. Every little helps (as the supermarket says ).
I work for a company who does a lot of work for the big water companies, and I see the damage these wipes can do.
It's not just sewers they block. It is the Pumps at the pump stations and the cso's
It's not just wipes either. people flush loads of pregnancy tests down the loo, and even clothes.
We had to replace a 27k pump once because someone had flushed a pair of shorty denim shorts down the bog. The thermal cut out failed and burnt the pump to a crisp.
Crete is like that. The sewage pipes are very narrow and cannot cope with great wodges of toilet paper, so there's a bin by everyone's toilet. You soon get used to it!
WTF you saying put used toilet roll in the bin YUK:o
... The drains need plenty of water to function, and blockages occur when stuff builds up without enough water to carry it into the big main. ...
One I am sure I've mentioned before, a toilet stopping up and the letting agency trying to convince the landlord to get a load of work done when the problem was that someone (no reason for the tenant do that, it was unmetered) had adjusted the water level in the cistern down to its minimum possible setting.
The result was that it would seem to work for a while and then stop up again, thus requiring another visit from the plumber.
So the bit about making sure there's enough water going through has merit even at the smallest domestic level - and there's also the lesson that when someone tries technical talk about 'not enough draw on the pipe' it is worth asking what has changed such that the 100-year-old and still intact pipe is now apparently not working any more.
If nobody did it the manufacturers of toilet wipes would make people redundant, shops would sell less and so need fewer staff, plumbers would suffer a drop in business, drain maintenance companies would go out of business, the treasury would incur losses in tax revenue. The list is endless.
No... flushing extraordinary objects down the lavatory is good for the UK.
I can't help noticing that shops sell special wet wipes for bottom-cleaning purposes. I am not sure how many people use them, but presumably someone does. I am more than happy to put my make up remover in the bin, but I would draw the line at those.
There are some which are flushable. However, best not to use too many at a time. Use toilet paper as normal and then finish with one wet wipe.
Yes, we have a macerator loo. It can't cope, as I discovered, with human hair either. I was in the habit of fishing any shed hair out of the shower plughole and chucking them into the loo. Don't do this with a macerator loo! £100 to have the macerator cleared. And I don't think it has been quite the same since.
The stupidest thing I came across was someone who blocked their sewer by lifting up the manhole in their garden and chucking BAGGED dogpoo into it.
I can certainly vouch for the fact that macerators have issues with certain bodily emissions, namely dog vomit after said dog has eaten lots of grass.
There was a huge bang from the macerator about five seconds after I flushed the loo, followed by a six hundred pound bill to replace the whole system
Living in a house with a septic tank certainly concentrates the mind re what does and does not get flushed down the bog.
I am a user of wet arse wipes but they always go in a separate bin.
My city dwelling niece and nephew thought I was being a miserable and grumpy old uncle when they visited at Christmas a few years ago and on arrival I read them the riot act about arse wipes, tampons, makeup wipes, cotton buds etc.
I was less than sympathetic several days later when they were leaving and they had to navigate their way through a large puddle of pee and shit to get to their car.
Several cases of beer were supplied to me as recompence for me having to clear out the drains and there have been no reoccurances.
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Oh sorry, I thought this was a self help thread.
You're a bit dim then aren't you?
I can't do it. I just cant!
Whenever I'm in holiday & they have those signs up, I'm afraid they just get ignored.
I know that makes me a terrible human being... But the thought of used toiled paper, and the smell of it, sitting in a bucket a few meters away from where I'm sleeping...
I was in Tenerife in February and never once put my poo stained toilet roll in the bin, that's just uncivilised. They need to sort themselves out and get to a place where it's acceptable to flush loo roll.
Also; if you are in a pre-war property; it's probably got a rat-trap in the sewer pipe. These were done away with post-war, and people who flush wetwipes can end up with these traps blocked whereas other properties don't.
Another option is to take nappy bags with you when you go abroad. Put your soiled toilet tissue into the nappy bag and tie it tightly, then place it in the bin provided. If necessary, place the sealed bag into another nappy bag (double bagging).
ETA: One could say that, in comparison to some countries where they use bidets or very modern toilets that have a little shower doo-hicky to clean your dirty bottom, that we are the uncivilised ones by still using toilet paper
That thread the other day about toilets proved interesting, led me to reading about countries where they consider wiping with toilet paper a very old-fashioned thing to do. Reading up on it, water is the much better option and much nicer for the old arse too
Still putting wipes etc down the toilet?
They could create a stamp or crest or something that manufactuters could use on their packaging once their product meets the standard. This would put pressure on manufacturers to try and develop a better product, and be seen to be environmentally caring, and give an incentive to be the first to achieve it and get a march on their oposition.
I believe there are discussions between water companies and wipes manufacturers, but at present while manufacturers continue to sell "flushable" wipes which do not break down, they do not seem to be trying very hard. So I think water companies should be more proactive.
Yes it seems a good idea, although you are still relying on the public to follow the rules - whatever they may be - that are set down. You'll always get lazy or ignorant people doing whatever they like, although if it stops even half of it then it'd be better than nothing. Every little helps (as the supermarket says
It's not just sewers they block. It is the Pumps at the pump stations and the cso's
It's not just wipes either. people flush loads of pregnancy tests down the loo, and even clothes.
We had to replace a 27k pump once because someone had flushed a pair of shorty denim shorts down the bog. The thermal cut out failed and burnt the pump to a crisp.
WTF you saying put used toilet roll in the bin YUK:o
Jeez, imagine the smell when the temps are high
The result was that it would seem to work for a while and then stop up again, thus requiring another visit from the plumber.
So the bit about making sure there's enough water going through has merit even at the smallest domestic level - and there's also the lesson that when someone tries technical talk about 'not enough draw on the pipe' it is worth asking what has changed such that the 100-year-old and still intact pipe is now apparently not working any more.
People have been putting used nappies (in a nappy bag) in bins** for a long time, it's the same thing.
ETA: Designated bins of course
Ah, the litter lout defence.
There are some which are flushable. However, best not to use too many at a time. Use toilet paper as normal and then finish with one wet wipe.
Result - clean bottoms!
Have you never been abroad
I can certainly vouch for the fact that macerators have issues with certain bodily emissions, namely dog vomit after said dog has eaten lots of grass.
There was a huge bang from the macerator about five seconds after I flushed the loo, followed by a six hundred pound bill to replace the whole system
I am a user of wet arse wipes but they always go in a separate bin.
My city dwelling niece and nephew thought I was being a miserable and grumpy old uncle when they visited at Christmas a few years ago and on arrival I read them the riot act about arse wipes, tampons, makeup wipes, cotton buds etc.
I was less than sympathetic several days later when they were leaving and they had to navigate their way through a large puddle of pee and shit to get to their car.
Several cases of beer were supplied to me as recompence for me having to clear out the drains and there have been no reoccurances.