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The decline of the nightclub

Sifter22Sifter22 Posts: 12,057
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Been seeing this story floating around on various media outlets the past few days. Apparently, like pubs, they're in rapid decline. Do you ever go to the anymore? I never used to and don't now, only rock clubs which don't really count.

I think the main factors are probably the same as why pubs are going. Smoking ban, more to do at home, cheaper booze in supermarkets. Also going to bars has become a bit more trendy in the last few years.
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    davelovesleedsdavelovesleeds Posts: 22,637
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    Well the smoke ban actually encouraged me and a good number of my friends and work colleague to visit pubs more.

    As for nightclubs, I haven't been in one, except when on holiday abroad, since the 1990s and don't intend to start again now. Paying a large fee to get in to drink overpriced alcohol and sometimes excessively loud music. To me they were just a place to drink later and a mating ground.

    Many pubs and bars now stay open past midnight, which to be honest, is late enough for me.
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    Alan1981Alan1981 Posts: 5,416
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    I haven't been for probably over 4 years and that was for a stag do.

    I have a few friends who go regularly who are in their 30's. Most are single and they seem to dress up in fancy dress for some reason. Usually there's about a 100 photos on facebook the next day documenting their "crazy wacky" night out.
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    skinjskinj Posts: 3,383
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    Paying a large fee to get in to drink overpriced alcohol and sometimes excessively loud music. To me they were just a place to drink later and a mating ground.
    Many pubs and bars now stay open past midnight, which to be honest, is late enough for me.

    Spot on I think. In the last 15-20 years there seems to have been a huge increase in both the number and size of venues that are what I would describe as pub/clubs. They invariably have drink promos running most nights they are open, some charge a small fee after a certain time to get in, most have music blaring away inside and most are open until 2-3 in the morning. Everything that nightclubs used to provide for the vast majority of people going to them.
    Obviously there are people that used to go to some nightclubs primarily for the music & the skilled DJ's that provided the atmosphere for the venue with the added benefit of alcohol being sold and the drug culture that was was always an undertone too. Sadly most towns can't support these types of club without the income they gained from people leaving normal pubs at 11pm but still wanting somewhere to carry on the night. Even the massive clubs struggle which is a real shame.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 816
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    I do not think there is any decline, to be honest I think there are more "late night bars" "Nightclubs" that the OP mentioned were what made the 90's music scene, now gone and forgotten, just like the music.
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    I think the smoking ban is largely an irrelevance these days. Less than 20% of young people smoke.

    The greater issues for me, would be the obscene prices, rude service (which includes burly, know-it-all bouncers), poor facilities and music.

    It's amazing that there are still so many given that most seem to subscribe to this formula of treating the customer like they're some sort of scum.

    They seem to have forgotten that they're in the hospitality business.
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    mickmarsmickmars Posts: 7,438
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    I miss the slow ones at 1.45am - time to dance with the honeys :-(
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    PinSarlaPinSarla Posts: 4,072
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    When the majority of your target audience are either in low paying jobs, students or unemployed then is it any wonder? At least, this is the case for the more 'provincial' cattle markets. The fact is that they can't survive on that one weekend alone where it's payday and people have money to burn, and they can't really diversify their target audience either, as the slightly older people are staying in or staying later in bars. The latter must be having a pretty big effect too as there seem to have been a lot of bars opening up in the last few years that stay open until about 1 AM, enough time to get in all the drinking and socialising you want before heading home.

    Plus online entertainment is so much cheaper and easily accessible. No £20 taxi fares, no £10 club entrance fees etc., and one of the main reasons for going to a club has been replaced by Tinder :D
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    Pumping IronPumping Iron Posts: 29,891
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    Can't stand the places nowadays, too many years on the doors has made me unable to relax in the environment. I'm always on edge and expecting trouble to happen. Give me a quiet country pub anyday.
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    barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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    In the 1970s and 1980s they were always known as the haunts of the naffest and sleaziest people and not the type of place that anybody with any self-respect would be seen in. After that they just became places to fight in.
    Good riddance.
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    vauxhall1964vauxhall1964 Posts: 10,360
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    with the likes of Tinder surely the role of the nightclub - pick up joint - is now increasingly redundant. As with most things, the gays got there first. Online 'dating' decimated the gay clubs years ago and now it's the turn of the straights.
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    Vast_GirthVast_Girth Posts: 9,793
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    When i was a student i used to love the rock clubs. I never liked the cheesy clubs, but we there was nowhere else much to go if you wanted to carry on drinking. Had some good times in them though.

    Nowadays i just want real ale and a decent smoking area to sit in. I'm very glad there's plenty of late night pub choice nowadays.
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    pugamopugamo Posts: 18,039
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    Opulence and hedonism isn't really the done thing these days. Nostalgia and modesty are very much the modern fashion. So wearing comfortable casuals in country pubs and spending money wisely is much more on trend than taking a load of pills, spending a fortune in clubs and pulling a stranger.

    Probably for the best when you think about it, although I doubt anyone who went through the clubbing stage regrets it.
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    sandydunesandydune Posts: 10,986
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    Give me a quiet country pub anyday.
    Quiet country pubs have their regular troublemakers. Those who want cheese n onion, when all that's left is salt n vinegar.:D
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    sandydunesandydune Posts: 10,986
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    What about the nightclubs that had the bouncers outside?:confused:
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    AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
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    I don't know about straight clubs, but the decline in London gay clubs has been squarely blamed on increased rents.
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    sarahj1986sarahj1986 Posts: 11,305
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    In terms of nightclubs I suppose there had been a decline what with the increase costs of going out. Close to £5 (some over £5) a drink round here when we can buy it cheaply in supermarkets. The increase in local pubs and other smaller bars being able to open later means people are less inclined to pay to go into a club and stay in the bar/pub for free (or at a smaller door entry fee)

    I personally haven't been to a nightclub in provably going on for 2 years now. I've been out drinking to pubs and bars but actual night club it must be end of 2013 since I last visited one.
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    allaboardallaboard Posts: 1,940
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    I think the changes to the licencing laws that allows pubs to open late has contributed a lot.
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    Skyler_WrightSkyler_Wright Posts: 1,652
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    Sifter22 wrote: »
    Been seeing this story floating around on various media outlets the past few days. Apparently, like pubs, they're in rapid decline. Do you ever go to the anymore? I never used to and don't now, only rock clubs which don't really count.

    I think the main factors are probably the same as why pubs are going. Smoking ban, more to do at home, cheaper booze in supermarkets. Also going to bars has become a bit more trendy in the last few years.

    Yes it's expensive out there especially in London, But thanks for smart phones and quick internet access to chat to all kinds of people to do other things and what we really want to do. It's bars, restaurants and spar clubs now.

    Nightclub is old skool.
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    LyricalisLyricalis Posts: 57,958
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    Nightclubs are bound to suffer if young people have less disposable income and they've grown up in a general atmosphere of austerity. There may be a proper backlash against the austerity aspect at some point, but that really depends on whether the next lot of young people see their disposable income rise.

    I somehow doubt that will happen, what with living expenses (when you include rents, education, and so on, and not the convenient measures the government use that mask the true picture) seeming to be ever upwards and pay rates stagnant.

    Perhaps nightclubs need to do more to entice older generations back to them? Hitman and Her theme nights anyone? :D *



    *Yeah, my idea of hell too, but then I always preferred rock clubs, like Rock City in Nottingham, which I pretty much lived in at one point.
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    David_HillDavid_Hill Posts: 3,073
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    I used to go clubbing from 2010-2013. They were the craziest most wild nights of my life. I find it sad that they are dying it now. I'm only 23 but the 18 year olds now make me laugh, they are proper lightweights. Me and my mates used to go out both friday and saturday and pre-drink from 6, go out about half 8 and come in at 4, sometimes go to an afterparty with lasses we pulled if we hadnt already shagged them in the town centre. My 18 year old sister and her mates only go out on fridays and predrink from 10 and go out at 12 and come home at 3. Its shocking. Thought it was just them but I've heard from other people most teens are like that now or they just go to pubs.
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    phill363phill363 Posts: 24,313
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    I think its only really in small towns and maybe london where there's a decline certainly not in large towns and cities in the north you can go out in Liverpool every night of the week, theres always at least 5 clubs that open on Sunday and Mondays till 4 am and they are nearly always packed, this time of year though they might be quieter than during term time though. I think though in most smaller towns the night clubs have left the voids been filled by pubs/bars having DJ's on Friday and Saturdays. In the 90's there was a big trend for having nightclubs in out of town retail parks but most of them have closed down now for some reason.
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    Alan1981Alan1981 Posts: 5,416
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    The clubs in Newquay are definitely quieter than they used to be. A lot of the clubs like Berties, sailors tall trees etc used to be busy almost all year round. Usually one in one out after 11pm. These days you can walk straight in any time of the year.

    I used to complain I was broke when I was younger, but when I look back at what I spent on a weekend out, it was no wonder. £10 to get in, £40 on drinks, £30 on a taxi home. times that by 2 or 3 times a week and I could have easily saved up a deposit for a house.

    Still I have some good memories.
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    Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    allaboard wrote: »
    I think the changes to the licencing laws that allows pubs to open late has contributed a lot.

    There are also allegations that many councils are determined to make their towns family friendly and anything with a hint of "adult fun" is refused a license on the flimsiest of grounds.
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    1manonthebog1manonthebog Posts: 3,707
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    Not been clubbing in about 10 years, but the clubs I used to go to are all closed now.
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    minxymoominxymoo Posts: 26,261
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    The only people I know who still go are a few male and female slags looking for a shag.nearly all over 30 under 40.you do the math.stopped going to clubs a good five years ago and have absolutely no plans to return.give me a local pub or wine bar with the other half anyday.:-D
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