Nick Grimshaw and Sara Cox really like it and Fern wants them in the live lounge but the problem is the people in the playlist meetings are all under 23 years of age. Therefore they think music from 28 year old women is too out of touch with the listeners.
The criteria for the playlist includes:
1. Mention of sex or sexual behaviour
2. Lyrics about 'da club'
3. Performed by artists under 23 years of age
4. Ladies who wear black lipstick
5. Someone with hipster hair
Capitals policy is to play songs from R1's playlist as soon as they have sold 5k units.
Nick Grimshaw and Sara Cox really like it and Fern wants them in the live lounge but the problem is the people in the playlist meetings are all under 23 years of age. Therefore they think music from 28 year old women is too out of touch with the listeners.
The criteria for the playlist includes:
1. Mention of sex or sexual behaviour
2. Lyrics about 'da club'
3. Performed by artists under 23 years of age
4. Ladies who wear black lipstick
5. Someone with hipster hair
Capitals policy is to play songs from R1's playlist as soon as they have sold 5k units.
Do they have to undergo the ritual of the 'Carousel' and seek renewal when they reach 24?
Would getting played on a serious station like Radio 2 or Radio 6 help?
R1 have really disappointed me here. A few DJs (as mentioned above) have praised this track and it rated very well on their Review show a few weeks back, yet they still refuse to play it. It can't be anything to do with their age either because the oldest (Siobhan) is only 29!
They really need to sort their playlist policy out or make it clearer to the listeners just how they make their decisions. :mad:
Some songs just don't get played for one reason or another. Roger Taylor's song Nazis 1994 wasn't played and some record shops even refused to stock it but it became his best selling solo single.
Lol, must admit didn't expect to be reminded of Roger Taylor's Nazis 94 record when reading about the Sugababes members. That record didn't get played because a record referencing Hitler, the Holocaust and the growth of the far right isn't exactly daytime radio fodder but thanks for reminding me of that great song!
Wonder if the radio approach to the song would have been different if they'd taken the Sugababes name ? MKS is a bit of a daft name IMO ..
I know Keisha claims to have "some" rights to the name, but I can't honestly imagine it would extend to actually officially reforming them .. I always thought she was awarded the rights to only produce Sugababes stationery ..
No one cares. Its really that simple. I said all along they would flop and they will. Apart from a few old fans who still believe in them they have no fan base.
Don't get me wrong I like Siobhan a lot but Keisha and Mutya ruined the Sugababes legacy. I know some Keisha fans try to blame Heidi but Heidi will have the last laugh here.
I agree. At first I was hyped up then for me 'flatline' was a disappointment it has grown on me a bit but yeah I've lost interest sadly & now I almost completely don't care anymore about them sadly
Radio 1 is possibly even worse than Capital. Capital play the same five songs on a loop but Radio 1 is just noise and the DJs saying how amazing the racket masquerading as music is.
Don't they play Will I Am's singles? They must have played Daft Punk & Burred Lines too... I don't know if I agree saying it's all about age.
But MKS is maybe more like an "old" reformed group attempting a come back... Maybe the buzz isn't as strong as fans think. Would the newly reformed 5ive, or Blue get airplay automatically?
I don't even think "current" groups like Little Mix get their songs that easely playlisted (from what I read in the LM thread).
This song is just fantastic and while I understand why some might think it bland, it has radio-friendly written all over it. Is this definitely a snub, is it too late to playlist it?
Girl bands are just difficult to market in the current pop climate.
The Saturdays have done well to last this long tbh. Sugababes were dying before the drama of Sweet 7 and Girls Aloud didn't set the charts alight with their Ten year anniversary.
Problem with MKS is they have no fanbase at all. I love Siobhan, I think she is a really nice person, so I'm sad its heading this way but I always knew it would. That's why I never got excited about their return. These three girls didn't work the first time so they were never going to work a second time. Heidi was very important to the set up and sound of this group. No matter how hard Keisha fans want to deny it. Mutya, Keisha, Heidi. That was the Sugababes.
Girl bands are just difficult to market in the current pop climate.
The Saturdays have done well to last this long tbh. Sugababes were dying before the drama of Sweet 7 and Girls Aloud didn't set the charts alight with their Ten year anniversary.
Problem with MKS is they have no fanbase at all. I love Siobhan, I think she is a really nice person, so I'm sad its heading this way but I always knew it would. That's why I never got excited about their return. These three girls didn't work the first time so they were never going to work a second time. Heidi was very important to the set up and sound of this group. No matter how hard Keisha fans want to deny it. Mutya, Keisha, Heidi. That was the Sugababes.
Pop is on its way down anyway. Obviously it will always be around but since 2009 it has ruled the charts, music is now moving on from this, I'd say it's R'n'B and Raps time to shine.
The Wanted have a career because their management are involved with a radio station and got them very heavy airplay, maybe The Sugababes' management/record company have some clout and are blocking the MKS song? I'm sure there are all sorts of politics involved.
The Wanted have a career because their management are involved with a radio station and got them very heavy airplay, maybe The Sugababes' management/record company have some clout and are blocking the MKS song? I'm sure there are all sorts of politics involved.
From Crown Talent's website, it doesn't look like the Sugababes still have a management deal as they aren't listed there as clients and they have been with them since Heidi joined the group so I don't think it's that
If the recent comments MKS have been making towards Heidi, Amelle & Jade are correct & haven't been mis quoted I am glad this looks likely to flop.
Heidi, Amelle & to a lesser extent Jade helped keep the Sugababes legacy carry on when members of MKS were happy to ditch it or be pushed out of it. The fact they are replacements is irrelevant to me as I like many replacement members in pop bands (Michelle from DC, Jenny in AK, Jacquie in Bananarama to name a few) & to me they are all worthy of respect whether they are originals or not.
I think Mutya & Keisha are coming across badly from recent comments they apparently made.
If the recent comments MKS have been making towards Heidi, Amelle & Jade are correct & haven't been mis quoted I am glad this looks likely to flop.
Heidi, Amelle & to a lesser extent Jade helped keep the Sugababes legacy carry on when members of MKS were happy to ditch it or be pushed out of it. The fact they are replacements is irrelevant to me as I like many replacement members in pop bands (Michelle from DC, Jenny in AK, Jacquie in Bananarama to name a few) & to me they are all worthy of respect whether they are originals or not.
I think Mutya & Keisha are coming across badly from recent comments they apparently made.
If you are referring to the "You see them now and they're like, 'What are you girls up to? And they act surprised when you don't want to say hello back to them. They're like, 'Oh, I can see you don't want to talk to me.' Well, yeah. F**k off. You clearly know why. So you just have to give them that look and hope that they'll go away.'' for the first time I believe they have been misquoted
For the other quotes about the name and that Keisha was never mean to Siobhan, I don't believe a word of them and agree they are coming across badly and bitter about the whole experience which Keisha has every right to be, it wasn't her choice to leave the Sugababes, but Siobhan and Mutya have no right whatsoever to be bitter about how the Sugababes are now, they left at critical points in the band's history
If you are referring to the "You see them now and they're like, 'What are you girls up to? And they act surprised when you don't want to say hello back to them. They're like, 'Oh, I can see you don't want to talk to me.' Well, yeah. F**k off. You clearly know why. So you just have to give them that look and hope that they'll go away.'' for the first time I believe they have been misquoted
For the other quotes about the name and that Keisha was never mean to Siobhan, I don't believe a word of them and agree they are coming across badly and bitter about the whole experience which Keisha has every right to be, it wasn't her choice to leave the Sugababes, but Siobhan and Mutya have no right whatsoever to be bitter about how the Sugababes are now, they left at critical points in the band's history
It begs the question of why did Heidi & Amelle no longer want to work with her though? pre MKS reforming Siobhan made her own feelings about her very clear aswell but that all seems to have been brushed under the carpet.
When 3 of the 4 members she worked with left/wanted out because of her alone it says a lot about Keisha.
It begs the question of why did Heidi & Amelle no longer want to work with her though? pre MKS reforming Siobhan made her own feelings about her very clear aswell but that all seems to have been brushed under the carpet.
When 3 of the 4 members she worked with left/wanted out because of her alone it says a lot about Keisha.
Oh I agree I believe 100% what was said about Keisha being unbearable to work with towards the end of her run in the band, to come from Siobhan, Amelle and Heidi, for her to not speak to Mutya properly in years after Mutya left the band, it is easy to believe.. Siobhan backtracking on 11 years of saying Keisha being mean and just having an issue with her for no reason and then suddenly deciding that she wasn't just as their comeback single is about to be released doesn't ring true..
She may be a very talented person, but I believe what Heidi, Amelle and Siobhan (pre 2013) said about Keisha
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The criteria for the playlist includes:
1. Mention of sex or sexual behaviour
2. Lyrics about 'da club'
3. Performed by artists under 23 years of age
4. Ladies who wear black lipstick
5. Someone with hipster hair
Capitals policy is to play songs from R1's playlist as soon as they have sold 5k units.
Do they have to undergo the ritual of the 'Carousel' and seek renewal when they reach 24?
Would getting played on a serious station like Radio 2 or Radio 6 help?
They really need to sort their playlist policy out or make it clearer to the listeners just how they make their decisions. :mad:
Lol, must admit didn't expect to be reminded of Roger Taylor's Nazis 94 record when reading about the Sugababes members. That record didn't get played because a record referencing Hitler, the Holocaust and the growth of the far right isn't exactly daytime radio fodder but thanks for reminding me of that great song!
As for MKS they are considered too old sadly.
I know Keisha claims to have "some" rights to the name, but I can't honestly imagine it would extend to actually officially reforming them .. I always thought she was awarded the rights to only produce Sugababes stationery ..
I agree. At first I was hyped up then for me 'flatline' was a disappointment
This. It's bland, bland, bland.
Heidi, don't you have a musical to rehearse for!?
And the playlists are full of edgy, pop classics right?
But MKS is maybe more like an "old" reformed group attempting a come back... Maybe the buzz isn't as strong as fans think. Would the newly reformed 5ive, or Blue get airplay automatically?
I don't even think "current" groups like Little Mix get their songs that easely playlisted (from what I read in the LM thread).
They are signed to Polydor which made a massive success out of Girls Aloud but they have done a bad one on MKS, same as The Saturdays
The Saturdays have done well to last this long tbh. Sugababes were dying before the drama of Sweet 7 and Girls Aloud didn't set the charts alight with their Ten year anniversary.
Problem with MKS is they have no fanbase at all. I love Siobhan, I think she is a really nice person, so I'm sad its heading this way but I always knew it would. That's why I never got excited about their return. These three girls didn't work the first time so they were never going to work a second time. Heidi was very important to the set up and sound of this group. No matter how hard Keisha fans want to deny it. Mutya, Keisha, Heidi. That was the Sugababes.
Pop is on its way down anyway. Obviously it will always be around but since 2009 it has ruled the charts, music is now moving on from this, I'd say it's R'n'B and Raps time to shine.
From Crown Talent's website, it doesn't look like the Sugababes still have a management deal as they aren't listed there as clients and they have been with them since Heidi joined the group so I don't think it's that
Heidi, Amelle & to a lesser extent Jade helped keep the Sugababes legacy carry on when members of MKS were happy to ditch it or be pushed out of it. The fact they are replacements is irrelevant to me as I like many replacement members in pop bands (Michelle from DC, Jenny in AK, Jacquie in Bananarama to name a few) & to me they are all worthy of respect whether they are originals or not.
I think Mutya & Keisha are coming across badly from recent comments they apparently made.
If you are referring to the "You see them now and they're like, 'What are you girls up to? And they act surprised when you don't want to say hello back to them. They're like, 'Oh, I can see you don't want to talk to me.' Well, yeah. F**k off. You clearly know why. So you just have to give them that look and hope that they'll go away.'' for the first time I believe they have been misquoted
For the other quotes about the name and that Keisha was never mean to Siobhan, I don't believe a word of them and agree they are coming across badly and bitter about the whole experience which Keisha has every right to be, it wasn't her choice to leave the Sugababes, but Siobhan and Mutya have no right whatsoever to be bitter about how the Sugababes are now, they left at critical points in the band's history
It begs the question of why did Heidi & Amelle no longer want to work with her though? pre MKS reforming Siobhan made her own feelings about her very clear aswell but that all seems to have been brushed under the carpet.
When 3 of the 4 members she worked with left/wanted out because of her alone it says a lot about Keisha.
If they have been blacklisted then its because of what they did to him.
There is that old saying. Be nice to people on the way up as they will meet you on the way down.
Oh I agree I believe 100% what was said about Keisha being unbearable to work with towards the end of her run in the band, to come from Siobhan, Amelle and Heidi, for her to not speak to Mutya properly in years after Mutya left the band, it is easy to believe.. Siobhan backtracking on 11 years of saying Keisha being mean and just having an issue with her for no reason and then suddenly deciding that she wasn't just as their comeback single is about to be released doesn't ring true..
She may be a very talented person, but I believe what Heidi, Amelle and Siobhan (pre 2013) said about Keisha