I think, controversially, that Jeremy Hunt is right.
So do I and support for the doctors has gone from 65% down to around 53% since they announced their latest strike. If there are deaths during the strike period it will fall even lower.
Trying to create a seven day a week service for the public.
personally i dont have a problem with him wanting to create a 7 day a week service but what your post glosses over is that he is trying to do it on the cheap and stretch resources that are already close to breaking point even thinner
Even by Tory standards, Jeremy Hunt is a complete waste of space
The rest of the Tories are just as bad they are letting him run down and destroy the NHS on their behalf like the people that worked with IDS guilty by association?
There was a doctor who appeared on television and who wrote an article in the Telegraph who has has said he no longer backs the strike because it has become about politics and personalising the strike against elected governments is not the best way to get your point across. He urged people to actually read the read the contracts. He made it clear that there were still several elements that needed judicial review and there were some discriminations that needed addressing. But he said that the points that the strikes were being called upon were largely inaccurate and doctors should put patients ahead of any grievance they have.
Also, support is being measured by monitoring the amount of car horns being honked at signs that say "Honk if you love the NHS" which of course is different than saying "Honk if you support the striking doctors".
If the Government caved in to demands, then all other public services would be demanding this that and the other aswell. I agree with Hunt.
The rest of the Tories are just as bad they are letting him run down and destroy the NHS on their behalf like the people that worked with IDS guilty by association?
If you think the Tories are ruining the NHS, wait until you vote to remain in the EU and TTIP is agreed. You aint seen nothing yet! But of course, I'm obviously just scaremongering.
Trying to create a seven day a week service for the public.
Well the government have said we need 5,000 more GPS, how many more NHS staff do you think the NHS needs to run a full NHS service 7 days a week, doctors nurses consultants and all medical staff and support staff
Trying to create a seven day a week service for the public.
At any cost, eh? Can't always get what you (apparently) want...I mean I'd love a couple of billion sitting in tax havens to pay for our public services but I know this is rather greedy of me, we must live within our means after all.
If you think the Tories are ruining the NHS, wait until you vote to remain in the EU and TTIP is agreed. You aint seen nothing yet! But of course, I'm obviously just scaremongering.
The USA won't get all it's own way on TTIP.
There just won't be any agreement unless concessions are made to the UK and other EU states like France and Germany working together to get the best deal with the USA, including opt outs for things like the NHS.
There just won't be any agreement unless concessions are made to the UK and other EU states like France and Germany working together to get the best deal with the USA, including opt outs for things like the NHS.
The only opt out that will work is the one we can vote for.
There just won't be any agreement unless concessions are made to the UK and other EU states like France and Germany working together to get the best deal with the USA, including opt outs for things like the NHS.
On BBC News today, a French lawyer was explaining that the major concession that the EU was looking for was for a proper static court to determine whether businesses have legitamacy to sue a Government.
So, don't complain that the NHS is screwed over by TTIP once you've voted to remain. It will be too late then. That's why Brexiters support Brexit. Because nothing is guaranteed with the EU. If we go alone, the decisions WE make will be made by us for us. We'll have OUR Government to blame. Who will you blame?
On BBC News today, a French lawyer was explaining that the major concession that the EU was looking for was for a proper static court to determine whether businesses have legitamacy to sue a Government.
So, don't complain that the NHS is screwed over by TTIP once you've voted to remain. It will be too late then. That's why Brexiters support Brexit. Because nothing is guaranteed with the EU. If we go alone, the decisions WE make will be made by us for us. We'll have OUR Government to blame. Who will you blame?
On BBC News today, a French lawyer was explaining that the major concession that the EU was looking for was for a proper static court to determine whether businesses have legitamacy to sue a Government.
So, don't complain that the NHS is screwed over by TTIP once you've voted to remain. It will be too late then. That's why Brexiters support Brexit. Because nothing is guaranteed with the EU. If we go alone, the decisions WE make will be made by us for us. We'll have OUR Government to blame. Who will you blame?
If the EU wins that concession it would allow the UK to refuse selling off parts of the NHS.
Even out of the EU we would have to sign up to something like TTIP for a trade deal with the USA.
With the protection of the EU behind us we could get better opt outs for things like the NHS.
Don't you believe it. TTIP clearly demonstrates, amongst all available text, from varying sources, widely available on the internet, that we will have less protection from anything once TTIP comes into operation. The EU would rather keep the USA happy rather than worry about the UK's NHS, which to the EU and the USA, is just another public service that the Americans can buy into. I think you are absolutely kidding yourself if you think the EU will say "Hands off the British NHS" when all other health services will be open for American investment - and return of profit.
Don't you believe it. TTIP clearly demonstrates, amongst all available text, from varying sources, widely available on the internet, that we will have less protection from anything once TTIP comes into operation. The EU would rather keep the USA happy rather than worry about the UK's NHS, which to the EU and the USA, is just another public service that the Americans can buy into. I think you are absolutely kidding yourself if you think the EU will say "Hands off the British NHS" when all other health services will be open for American investment - and return of profit.
The French and Germans will have things they want our support over.
If the EU wins that concession it would allow the UK to refuse selling off parts of the NHS.
No. It would make it easier for the British Government to be sued. Simply because the costs in the UK, or the ability to invest in the UK is restricted by the UK Government compared to areas where investment is easier.
It is true that all three major English parties (and the SNP) want an opt out clause in the agreement. It is one stumbling block in the negotiations. But, there is no certainty they will get it. You can see for yourself by reading the TTIP information on the "fullfacts" website - which is possibly the most honest place there is for finding neutral information.
The French and Germans will have things they want our support over.
You do know that France, Germany, Britain and the other 25 countries are not actually involved in the negotiations don't you? There is a team of unelected people negotiating on behalf of the EU for the EU. Sure, countries would have made their concerns known, but at the end of the day, the EU parliament agreed for these negotiations to take place and for a deal to be struck. France and Germany will care about France and Germany at the end of the day. Just like Britain primarily cares about Britain. You really do need to take TTIP seriously and not assume everything will be wonderful at the end of it.
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Right about what?
So do I and support for the doctors has gone from 65% down to around 53% since they announced their latest strike. If there are deaths during the strike period it will fall even lower.
Trying to create a seven day a week service for the public.
personally i dont have a problem with him wanting to create a 7 day a week service but what your post glosses over is that he is trying to do it on the cheap and stretch resources that are already close to breaking point even thinner
I don't think anyone is that gullible.
Also, support is being measured by monitoring the amount of car horns being honked at signs that say "Honk if you love the NHS" which of course is different than saying "Honk if you support the striking doctors".
If the Government caved in to demands, then all other public services would be demanding this that and the other aswell. I agree with Hunt.
If you think the Tories are ruining the NHS, wait until you vote to remain in the EU and TTIP is agreed. You aint seen nothing yet! But of course, I'm obviously just scaremongering.
Well the government have said we need 5,000 more GPS, how many more NHS staff do you think the NHS needs to run a full NHS service 7 days a week, doctors nurses consultants and all medical staff and support staff
At any cost, eh? Can't always get what you (apparently) want...I mean I'd love a couple of billion sitting in tax havens to pay for our public services but I know this is rather greedy of me, we must live within our means after all.
The USA won't get all it's own way on TTIP.
There just won't be any agreement unless concessions are made to the UK and other EU states like France and Germany working together to get the best deal with the USA, including opt outs for things like the NHS.
The only opt out that will work is the one we can vote for.
On BBC News today, a French lawyer was explaining that the major concession that the EU was looking for was for a proper static court to determine whether businesses have legitamacy to sue a Government.
So, don't complain that the NHS is screwed over by TTIP once you've voted to remain. It will be too late then. That's why Brexiters support Brexit. Because nothing is guaranteed with the EU. If we go alone, the decisions WE make will be made by us for us. We'll have OUR Government to blame. Who will you blame?
Even out of the EU we would have to sign up to something like TTIP for a trade deal with the USA.
With the protection of the EU behind us we could get better opt outs for things like the NHS.
Not often I agree with you.....
If the EU wins that concession it would allow the UK to refuse selling off parts of the NHS.
Would a Tory, or even Tory lite (Blair), government be certain to refuse?
Don't you believe it. TTIP clearly demonstrates, amongst all available text, from varying sources, widely available on the internet, that we will have less protection from anything once TTIP comes into operation. The EU would rather keep the USA happy rather than worry about the UK's NHS, which to the EU and the USA, is just another public service that the Americans can buy into. I think you are absolutely kidding yourself if you think the EU will say "Hands off the British NHS" when all other health services will be open for American investment - and return of profit.
The French and Germans will have things they want our support over.
No. It would make it easier for the British Government to be sued. Simply because the costs in the UK, or the ability to invest in the UK is restricted by the UK Government compared to areas where investment is easier.
It is true that all three major English parties (and the SNP) want an opt out clause in the agreement. It is one stumbling block in the negotiations. But, there is no certainty they will get it. You can see for yourself by reading the TTIP information on the "fullfacts" website - which is possibly the most honest place there is for finding neutral information.
But that would still be the decision of a UK government not the EU then and they know they would not be forgiven.
You do know that France, Germany, Britain and the other 25 countries are not actually involved in the negotiations don't you? There is a team of unelected people negotiating on behalf of the EU for the EU. Sure, countries would have made their concerns known, but at the end of the day, the EU parliament agreed for these negotiations to take place and for a deal to be struck. France and Germany will care about France and Germany at the end of the day. Just like Britain primarily cares about Britain. You really do need to take TTIP seriously and not assume everything will be wonderful at the end of it.