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The Apprentice is now a Different show
Paace
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It seems LS is only now looking for entrepreneurs like Tom and Susan, so the BBC better make that clear to all candidates wanting to apply and not waste their time over 12 weeks.
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Really shocked.
I know people keep going on about it but what is the point in the tasks any more and the PM role.
Helen Wins 10 Tasks and Wins 3 times a PM = Winner to me
Tom Loses 8 Tasks and constantly avoids the PM role until he is forced on Week 8 and Fails = Loser.
How can it be fixed - the winner is 100% Lord Sugar's choice. He picks the person HE wants - based on what he has seen over the process and their business plan. He gets what he wants - as its his £250k.
Sorry - Tom is an inventor and a creative person. Helen is a great PA - but has never run a business or invented anything.
You might agree that the winner didn't correlate to who did best in the past 11 shows - but Lord Sugar wanted a new entrepeneur and not an apprentice. Helen may be lots of things - but that she isn't.
Your right. It is his money.
Just really thought Helen had been fab throughout so just guttered she did not win
I think your spot on there
But she had NO business plan at all!.
They are taking applications for the next series now.
I don't see why people are so up in arms about the winner. Whenever someone goes out of the process based on something other than pure objective facts, the moaners on here shout 'fix'. Case in point: Glenn's firing when Lord Sugar mentioned that he was an engineer (like Tom in fact).
The tasks are to win a chance at making your pitch to Lord Alan out of 100s of original applicants, just like the tasks in other reality shows which get you 'immunity' from being voted out or whatever. What is wrong with that? In that case it is still a very different show to Dragon's Den where any of the candidates' chances of winning that kind of cash would be slim.
As for the idea that it must be a fix because Lord Alan is a 'product man' or whatever. If someone had come up with a brilliant service sector business plan he would have considered it. Nobody did. End of story.
I think this format is better. The candidates knew when they applied that this was the prize (I know someone who applied for the series). Given the high-pressure nature of the tasks, this is the one thing that genuinely is in their power. Hopefully next year's applicants watched last night and are already putting their business plans with last night's errors and omissions in mind.
Of course those applying wont withdraw!.
You are really having a laugh if you think that the format change will put potential candidates off......
Really?
Please explain! It now seems all along LS wanted Tom. That explains why he never fired him. Being on the show is no different to playing the lottery. Winning a task means nothing for the prize. True if Helen would have a real business plan she may have won. But I am not sure about that either. So please explain for what reason would a candidate go on the show and do his best to win tasks with no prize at the end for it.
Because then there would be a case to say it is a fix, LS picks 16 business plans but already has a winner in mind? For anyone who thinks it already is a fix I would ask whether they genuinely think LS wanted Tom to win from the start?
The new format is fine. Candidates compete for a chance to pitch to LS. The tasks give LS an impression of who he would like to work with and it all comes together at the end when the last 4 standing get to pitch their idea. Remember it is really just a game show.
I disagree. Tom called it right on many of the tasks but was ignored. Every time he was in the board room he was not the candidate who deserved to be fired. I'm just glad the ridiculous argument that 'you didn't stop me from making my stupid decision' did not win out this time. Tom was a contender. Unlike so many contestants he did think about profit and loss, he didn't have any egotistical flights of fancy, he played the long game and deserved to survive. With the notable exception of Helen's pitch to La Redoute, he no more lost his tasks than Helen won hers.
But surely you must realise that the shows producers decided that leaving the "reveal" of the plans till the end made better TV?.
Lets face it, who thought that Helen a terrific candidate, would come up with such an awful, awful, business plan?.
The whole idea behing this show is to entertain, THAT is why the plans are left till last.
Do not ask me about "why" these people would go on the show, as this is a question you would have to ask the candidates.
And who says that the ones who dont win get no prize?. After all, many of thos from previous series who failed, have gone on to stay in the public eye, and others have used the publicity to boost the career they were in.
If people watch this show, why do they do so?.
Simple really, they want to see people fall on their @rse, thats what they watch for!.
The show has been this way since day one, but if you feel that its not, then that is your right to do so, the rest of us will still enjoy it none the less.