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IS terror plot on UK foiled
The Martian
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The first alleged Isil-linked terror plot on UK soil has been foiled by police and MI5 amid fears jihadists are returning from Syria to carry out beheadings on British streets.
Four men were arrested in dramatic armed raids in London during which one suspect had to be Tasered by police.
The men are feared to have been in the “early stages” of planning a “significant” attack and it is understood one line of inquiry is whether they wanted to emulate the sort of brutal execution that has become Isil’s hallmark on a British street.
Police and intelligence agencies have become increasingly concerned that the terror group, which has already beheaded four Western hostages, is encouraging similar attacks overseas.
Fears have heightened further after the UK joined air strikes against the terrorists.
Last month police in Australia arrested 15 suspected Islamist extremists amid fears they were planning random killings, including a public beheading.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11147495/First-alleged-Isil-terror-plot-on-UK-foiled-amid-growing-fears-of-beheadings.html
I wonder how long it will be before they fail to stop an attack?
I hope those arrested are jailed for at least 50 years.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/islamic-extremist-warns-more-lee-4368546
Only in Britain would an anti-social behaviour order be used to combat bombers and beheaders.
I would love to see the evidence they had.
I wonder will we hear any more about these men, including their fair and impartial trial before a jury of their peers. Or will due process and justice go out the window because "national security"?
If you get my drift.
Need to see the evidence or I suspect that these loonies might be quietly released in a few weeks
The men will probably be cleared and released without a fanfare and we will hear nothing about it.
Security theatre at its finest.
I agree it is odd that this particular case has been deliberately reported to the press. However, the security services may feel this is discouraging to other potential terrorists in the UK, who might now think twice before starting any trouble.
One thing I can tell you for sure though: the threat of terrorist attacks on British soil is very real. It's reassuring to see the police and MI5 are doing such a great job.
Well that is definately anti-social
How do MI5 know these things? lol
"Abdul"
"Yeah Jamil"
"I'm gonna take this knife and behead somebody brother"
<BOOM>
"DOWN ON THE FLOOR DOWN ON THE FLOOR"
Anyone who believes this is pretty naive. It is more likely that this will be used as yet more propaganda by extremists to brainwash vulnerable Muslims. It will be made even worse if these men are later revealed to have been innocent in which case WE will be responsible for their radicalisation.
Why would some of these nuts not be planning attacks at this time? it's more unlikely that they're not.
The security services get it in the neck if they fail to stop an attack, and they get it when they do arrest suspects.
As opposed to another successful beheading in public or another bomb outrage against innocent victims which will help the situation no end.
Yes but if you act if you only have a slight suspicion - which in the current situation is completely understandable - then often your fears will turn out to be without foundation.
I enjoy the odd conspiracy theory and websites like Infowars as much as anyone. However, I think you are going a bit far in your mistrust of the police and MI5. They are trying to keep us safe.
If they really thought releasing this information to the press would encourage MORE terrorist activity in the UK, why on earth did they do it?
ISIS is already losing the propaganda war. They are even unpopular among many Muslims. The UK and US governments are very reluctant to get caught up with ground troops in Syria - even at this critical stage of the fighting they are sticking to air strikes. So I don't think they are too worried about swaying public opinion.
I would imagine there was more than a slight suspicion. It's not like the police have never had a successful preemptive Islamist terrorist arrest.
I don't think we need to know everything at all times - for security alerts etc. a relevant warning when they have sufficient information is enough IMO.
One does not need to read conspiracy websites to smell bullshit. We have seen and heard so much of it post 9/11 that it has become the default output of government, military and law enforcement leaders. Why just this week we had a senior crime agency figure spouting shite about how UK spying powers are not broad enough.
With so much bullshit flying around, it is only prudent to be skeptical.
We don't know. But in the current climate the security services are obliged to act even if they only have suspicions but relatively little hard evidence. It's the precautionary principle in action.
It is quite funny, they arrest people the suspect of terrorism and they are making it up. They don't arrest anybody and they aren't doing enough to protect the country. They can't win
I know! I am quite astounded by some of theses posts.
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/the-threats/terrorism/international-terrorism/international-terrorist-plots/arrests-and-convictions.html
332 terrorist convictions since 9/11, upto June 2013. That wont include cases awaiting trial, nor the cases of groups broken up, and prevented from carrying out acts.
That's not bullshit, or conspiracy theories. Those are facts, and it is a good job we have people doing this work.