Tivo developers with very small "d"
According to the new update Tivo has now learned not to record the same padding several times using multiple tuners <<instead>> of starting other recordings on time
Rocket science it aint but V+ l;earned that lesson over 2 years ago so why has it took Tivo sooooooo long
Shame for the 3 Tivo owners that pretended duplicate padding was a great idea :rolleyes: - for you guys - it's gone i'm afraid
but what the lord giveth with one hand, he takes away with another
New update also includes "forced padding" so tuner clashes are much more likely (probably about 10 times more likely)
Duh!!! or what
Rocket science it aint but V+ l;earned that lesson over 2 years ago so why has it took Tivo sooooooo long
Shame for the 3 Tivo owners that pretended duplicate padding was a great idea :rolleyes: - for you guys - it's gone i'm afraid
but what the lord giveth with one hand, he takes away with another
New update also includes "forced padding" so tuner clashes are much more likely (probably about 10 times more likely)
Duh!!! or what
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Just wish the broadcasters would all just start their progs at the right bloomin time.
I know I WILL run into problems due to the amount I record around the same time. I've tried even setting it to record 1min early and it complains that I already have stuff recording. Guess I should really start to look to +1 hr channels or repeats.
You can still select your own padding when you set a series link.
let's say you're recording two programs on BBC 1 back to back one on at 8pm till 9pm and one from 9pm till 10 pm
you have 1 min before and 4 mins after as the default, so two tuners will be used at 8:59pm till 9:04pm when the entire thing could have been recorded using one tuner
Actually you can’t. When setting a programme to record or a series link you have three options - Record This Episode – Express Series Link- and Explore This Show. Using either of the first two results sets it up with the default recording options; there is no Options button available at this point. The only way to change the padding say is to go into My Shows and modify it from there.
However if you select Explore This Show there is a direct route which will enable you to set up the recording/series link with you own choice of recording options.
--John
Hi John, I was talking about the 'explore this show' page.
So the update now results in tivo using a single tuner to record consecutive shows on the same channel? or does TiVo still use multiple tuners?
So can anybody answer this?
Sorry but that's just not true. It's not them that's wrong and it's not you that's wrong. It's bad requirements gathering.
The developers should have implemented a user changeable default in this release, then implemented smarter padding (which the S1 TiVo could manage, as I'm sure you know carl).
Whoops – sorry about that, I thought you were referring to the main window where you set up your recordings.
--John
not a problem anymore but many a cause of cropped recordings was where a programme starts ITV 9:00 - 10:00 and next program starts ITV 10:00 - 11:00 and other program starts BBC 10:00 - 11:00
not a problem until you add padding and you'll see that even with 3 tuners you're all out of tuners and programmes are gonna get cropped
for a better explanation check my 2 cents near the bottom
So switch off the cropping function and have Tivo record the next-available showing of one of the programmes. Simple.
As per V+, the Tivo is now smart enough to drop one set of overlapping padding so it only needs one tuner to record consecutive recordings - hooraaaaaaaaaaayyy
like i say - shame for those 3 guys that 'claimed' they wanted to rcord the same thing twice
but the rest of us will be happier
Wanting to record the same thing twice is one thing but mine records the same thing twice by its own, due probably to the EPG being shite. Last time was with Terra Nova, and yes I have it set to NEW only.
Surely if you want to record a programme, the central systems should send a signal down to the box to say it's all ok, go ahead and record and send another signal when the programme finishes if it over-runs???
No doubt there will be a technical reason this can't be done... :rolleyes:
it does it by timewatching, essentially it's a glorified automatic timer. however there IS a system but Virgin haven't implemented it. It's called a Dynamic EPG.
each channel sends the whole EPG data (usually) and a live now and next data. Freeview+ and sky+ monitor the now and next, BBC and a few others WILL update that now and next on the fly live when they know a recording is going over schedule.
VM however uses custom guide data formatted for both V+ and Tivo and that comes from it's central head end. I am not sure if it pumps out now and next but if it did, the box would have to be told to track it. if it didn't then you'd have to implement it but that could be costly and time consuming.
TBH I ain't worried about loosing a few mins. to be this long without Digital Cable TV I'll be more than happy to just get the channels I want
Thanks Jethro for clarifying that. Great news that is!
There is indeed. I just explained it to you.
It's not that they haven't; simply that they can't due to the reason you mentioned. ie because their EPG is out-sourced; and currently to different companies for the V+ and Tivo.
It's not about recording the same thing twice but about having enough padding at the start and end to catch the whole programme and not have the end off the first programme chopped...
They can if they implemented now and next data that gets sent down the DVB compliant route.
so they could still have outsourced epg's but utilize the now and next data from DVB-C therefore accurate. but it's no biggie.