Actually made me ashamed to be a woman :(
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Just watched thong-gate.
Essentially, what a fuss over very little - Denise acted inapproprately and then apologised. Cue ridiculous female over-dramatics and hysteria. Denise and Nicola and one of the Ks crying, and the twins overacting.
The guys in the house acted perfectly calmly and reasonably and quite rightly wanted nothing to do with the slanging match that ensued.
It was like watching pre menstrual women after too much Lambrini.
I would never usually reduce an analysis to female/male behaviour but this is just embarassing to watch as a woman. What an emotional mess. I realise there are pent up feelings being triggered here but the guys have just as much reason to 'vent' and they weren't doing so - Michael could have piled in, Frankie obviously felt upset but kept very calm...
Never mind Nicola telling Denise she'll be embarassed when she watches it; they should all be embarassed.
Essentially, what a fuss over very little - Denise acted inapproprately and then apologised. Cue ridiculous female over-dramatics and hysteria. Denise and Nicola and one of the Ks crying, and the twins overacting.
The guys in the house acted perfectly calmly and reasonably and quite rightly wanted nothing to do with the slanging match that ensued.
It was like watching pre menstrual women after too much Lambrini.
I would never usually reduce an analysis to female/male behaviour but this is just embarassing to watch as a woman. What an emotional mess. I realise there are pent up feelings being triggered here but the guys have just as much reason to 'vent' and they weren't doing so - Michael could have piled in, Frankie obviously felt upset but kept very calm...
Never mind Nicola telling Denise she'll be embarassed when she watches it; they should all be embarassed.
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We get it, you don't like them. They did precisely the right thing in refusing to barge into a big row that was nothing to do with them and had long since become about nothing at all except the pleasure of making a lot of noise.
Denise or Frankie to win.
Denise was stupid, Karissa went to calm down, then it all got over-exaggerated, taken out of context, Nicola started wailing like a demented banshee, the twins began attacking anyone who dared go against them, Denise started wailing. This is what females are like. overcook anything for a bit of attention
I was quite embarrassed.
Who else giggled at Nicola "the secret feminist"
What rot, the whole thing wouldn't have happened if Denise hadn't been so desperate to be seen as one of the "young fun party girls" and hadn't acted innapropriately. Even then it may not have happened had she not, immediately after she apologised, then pretended she was going to do it again and then followed Karissa, when she took herself away from it to the kitchen, to excuse her actions and wouldn't shut up about it. Denise SHOULD be embarrassed when she sees it back, and when she sees back the bit where she whined on to Nicola about her being friends with the twins now and how she'd left Denise all on her own !! I doubt she'll be embarrassed tho, she'll just make all her tried and tested excuses again and carry on doing the same outside the BB house.
lol
No, you're right, but it is how it made me feel watching it, that's all. And I suppose it's because it was such a stereotypically 'drunk women' style argument - tears, over-reactions, drama, that it really struck me. And all preceeded by 'Girls Just Wanna Have Fun'.:cool:
Totally agree, so many people with a dodgy grasp of what feminism really means, picking it up & using it as a weapon against us. Shame.
I do not regard another woman's behaviour as something I need to take a shared responsibility for.
Interesting notion though - I'd let go of that if I were you, it seems a bit pointless.
And your post was so good you had to do it twice
I'm certainly not trying to slur all women. I can't speak for others on this thread.
I am commenting on the action of 4 women and judging their behaviour -as a woman. In the same way, for example, people have disliked Kirk and Frankie's lecherous 'male' behaviour and derogatory comments about women -and largely condemned it, which I did too.
Exactly! Do all men feel ashamed of their maleness due to the actions of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin Dada, Robespierre and so on?? Of course not...yet whenever a few women behave a little bit badly on some second rate tv show somehow we women should feel shame!?
Cobblers!
I sure 4 hours of listening to a group of women arguing finally got to him.
I would have said the same thing in the same way to her.
He was also probably still disgusted from the time Denise tried to snog him that night :eek:
The OP didn't use the term feminism some poster later on did and it is indeed silly. I thought the OP made a good point in that they were women over reacting and embarrassing themselves juxtaposed with men refusing to join in, suspect behaviour IMO but still possibly better than the ranting and raving, or Frankie being calm and sensible.
Having said that groups of men embarrass themselves publicly all the time but int this instance it was women, that's all.