Can I just say that I was only joking in my OP! Well, half-joking, it still annoys me when she says it but I'm not stupid enough to get so worked up that I would contact Ofcom or actually complain to the BBC.:rolleyes:
This isn't me being racist either (my my, we do bandy that word around a lot now, I could go on a rant about that but I won't). I wasn't even aware that her saying 'arks' was related to a West Indian-influenced accent or whatever. If that makes me ignorant in any way then I'm sorry. So why does Catherine Tate's teenager character say 'arks' then?
Can I just say that I was only joking in my OP! Well, half-joking, it still annoys me when she says it but I'm not stupid enough to get so worked up that I would contact Ofcom or actually complain to the BBC.:rolleyes:
This isn't me being racist either (my my, we do bandy that word around a lot now, I could go on a rant about that but I won't). I wasn't even aware that her saying 'arks' was related to a West Indian-influenced accent or whatever. If that makes me ignorant in any way then I'm sorry. So why does Catherine Tate's teenager character say 'arks' then?
There is always something funny, that just ain't funny. Personally didn't find it funny for personal reasons.
I don't want to get involved in the argument or nothing, I just reckon it's so funny when Chelsea goes 'arks' , I don't know if that's how she's been brought up, I guess the only reason I found it funny was because that is how the Catherine Tate charcter 'Lauren' talks, and she is taking the mick.
Lol
I love Chelsea. Tiana is a great actress with a talent for drama and comedy. Chelsea's accent is a part of the way she expresses herself. I find it appealing and actually any word she says sounds lovely to my ears. :cool:
If everyone spoke the same language and had the same accent, the world would be very boring. The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain. :rolleyes:
Don't go OTT will you? :rolleyes: Next you'll be blaming me for the war. I asked the OP a question and suddenly I'm hitler. Riiiight.
And before anyone says my post doesn't make sense, their post has been edited. It originally said that 'people like me' were responsible for all the trouble in the world. :rolleyes: Oh please.
soley your fault :eek: thats a lot of burden to take on your shoulders.
Anyways i dont like chelsea never have since day one. no explanations needed just dont like her.
I think it's fairly obvious the OP is just joking. I have noticed Chelsea says aks instead of ask - but last night she seemed to do it about twenty times, and it sounds forced. I imagine it's not her natural accent and it's gotta be difficult to train yourself to say aks instead of ask (and vice versa!). She puts too much emphasis on it - like 'look my character speaks like this'. Other characters say it more naturally and it disappears within the sentence. I think this all has more to do with the actresses' inability to make the pronounciation blend in with her accent - essentially I don't think you could describe aks as part of an accent - surely it's a dialect? Language experts feel free to correct me.
She should be told by the directors to pronounce it correctly, as should anyone else who says it like that. I have black friends who DON'T say"aks" so i think it's a bit "stereotypical" really...
At the end of the day an accent is an accent and all EastEnders are doing is showing how most of the people with Chelsea's background speak in London today.
A regional or social variety of a language distinguished by pronunciation, grammar, or vocabulary, especially a variety of speech differing from the standard literary language or speech pattern of the culture in which it exists: Cockney is a dialect of English.
Actually both:
ac·cent (ăk'sĕnt') pronunciation
n.
1. The relative prominence of a particular syllable of a word by greater intensity or by variation or modulation of pitch or tone.
2. Vocal prominence or emphasis given to a particular syllable, word, or phrase.
3. A characteristic pronunciation, especially:
1. One determined by the regional or social background of the speaker.
2. One determined by the phonetic habits of the speaker's native language carried over to his or her use of another language.
Sorry, what I was going to say had just been complained about and I hadn't realise. I don't think you're racist but your attitude doesn't give much evidence against that. There are probably a lot of coloured people on digital Spy who speak like that, maybe you should think about what you're saying a little more.
Thanks for sharing this. I agree that it would be wise to be versed in proper English if that is fitting for your professional work environment. But, just being in the world, and living day to day, pronouncing ask as ax or aks is not the end of the world. Nor does it indicate a lack of intelligence. It's a different way of speaking. If that offends some and makes some angry, that's unfortunate. :eek: And funny.
I think it's great to have characters with different accents. It makes it feel more diverse.
That's not the same as saying that Chelsea is a token character because I think the Fox girls are far from tokens. I don't think EastEnders has any token characters at the moment. I'm also not suggesting that she is there just because of her accent.
I think it's great to have characters with different accents. It makes it feel more diverse.
That's not the same as saying that Chelsea is a token character in that sense because I think the Fox girls are far from tokens. I don't think EastEnders has any token characters at the moment.
Thank goodness. The Foxes are brilliant characters written with depth and are well acted. I love EE for bringing them to the Square.
I loved her in Babyfather and I loved her in The Bill. I was very excited when I heard she was coming to EastEnders and I wasn't let down. I loved the three girls in that flat and I felt the Wicks watered them down slightly when they started living together but just this past week I have seen the spark between the three girls again.
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Just call me Mystic Meg Nostradamus.
This isn't me being racist either (my my, we do bandy that word around a lot now, I could go on a rant about that but I won't). I wasn't even aware that her saying 'arks' was related to a West Indian-influenced accent or whatever. If that makes me ignorant in any way then I'm sorry. So why does Catherine Tate's teenager character say 'arks' then?
Are you saying that she chooses to speak like that.:o
No I am saying some people have speech and language problems, hence they have a profession entitled Speech and Language Therapist.
There is always something funny, that just ain't funny. Personally didn't find it funny for personal reasons.
Lol
If everyone spoke the same language and had the same accent, the world would be very boring.
As for this thread.... is it a joke? Paul Trueman used to say it as well did you phone ofcom then?
soley your fault :eek: thats a lot of burden to take on your shoulders.
Anyways i dont like chelsea never have since day one. no explanations needed just dont like her.
She should be told by the directors to pronounce it correctly, as should anyone else who says it like that. I have black friends who DON'T say"aks" so i think it's a bit "stereotypical" really...
It is dialect.
di·a·lect (dī'ə-lĕkt')
n.
Actually both:
ac·cent (ăk'sĕnt') pronunciation
n.
1. The relative prominence of a particular syllable of a word by greater intensity or by variation or modulation of pitch or tone.
2. Vocal prominence or emphasis given to a particular syllable, word, or phrase.
3. A characteristic pronunciation, especially:
1. One determined by the regional or social background of the speaker.
2. One determined by the phonetic habits of the speaker's native language carried over to his or her use of another language.
Not a language expert, but that's what I found.
I think it adds to her character and is very realistic. Tiana has really done her research if she doesn't speak like that in RL.
Thanks for sharing this. I agree that it would be wise to be versed in proper English if that is fitting for your professional work environment. But, just being in the world, and living day to day, pronouncing ask as ax or aks is not the end of the world. Nor does it indicate a lack of intelligence. It's a different way of speaking. If that offends some and makes some angry, that's unfortunate. :eek: And funny.
That's not the same as saying that Chelsea is a token character because I think the Fox girls are far from tokens. I don't think EastEnders has any token characters at the moment.
Thank goodness.
I loved her in Babyfather and I loved her in The Bill. I was very excited when I heard she was coming to EastEnders and I wasn't let down. I loved the three girls in that flat and I felt the Wicks watered them down slightly when they started living together but just this past week I have seen the spark between the three girls again.