Dreams And The Spirit World
FusionFury
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Does anyone believe that when you dream it is some sort of connection to the spirit World?
I have a theory that when we die we could just fade off into 1 long dream..
I have a theory that when we die we could just fade off into 1 long dream..
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From the day I was diagnosed this stopped and has never happened since.
But no I never had a dream telling me something was wrong or anything like that.
I have family members that have been temporally dead (so not really dead) and they say there was nothing, but as they were not dead dead I suppose they would not pass over, and I do believe there is another world after death.
I should add I have had experiences, But I don't think people can talk to the dead, or that the dead like to walk around and haunt people. I have only ever had premonition of things about to happen.
There is no evidence, its just a sense you get, but everyone must believe what they want, and not be pressured into anything.
Because there is absolutely no evidence for any such thing as a 'spirit world' - unless you count Sally Morgan and Derek Wankorah.
Have you seen Paranormal Witness mate? are all these people making it up?
Mate you can't go by what is on a TV show, especially an American one.:D
I can't see how you can say "of course they are", its likely that are, but not fact.
There might be logical explications for what has happened, it does not mean they are lying.
Cuckoo
Explications?
No, if it was caused by wind or something similar for example.
People these days want evidence.
People want scientific evidence which isn't likely to ever happen. There is mounds of it out there but people's own experiences, anecdotal evidence accounts for nothing it seems
That is because people lie, science cannot.
I think there is life after death, but I would be questioning anyone who says they have seen something or experienced it.
For me, my dreams are definitely connected to my inner state (well, obviously...) - and my inner state could be called my spirit, I guess, so in that case, yes!
That's a heck of a liars though.
I know what I've seen and experienced .... all of my life. I have no cause to lie. People can think what they like though. I've said previously - and vowed never to speak on this subject again on here
In answer to Fusions original question, I do believe there is some link to it through our dreams. It's a fascinating topic
When you die, your brain will obviously no longer function, so no more dreams.
I'll believe when someone shows me evidence that an after life exists. Until then it will remain a purely spiritual belief issue in the same way people believe there is a god and some golden gates to heaven.
Dreams are our brains thinking & processing when we're unconscious. In the same way we can day dream.. that's our brains thinking & processing when we're still conscious. If they were a connection to the spirit world I sure hope i'd be having more interesting dreams than walking around a supermarket getting anxious that I can't find a particular item.
They are partly, because they are the mind's way to test out situations.
But they also problem solve and can be creative. There are famous dreams where scientists made breakthroughs this way (Kekule for example).
They also make some good jokes from time to time as they use images to spell out things they think you need to know. Once I dreamt of being caught in a flood and needed a ship for rescue and then escaped on a passing piano - which with amusement I realised (as the dream was semi lucid) was the best it could conjure up when I had needed a P and O ship instead.
Lucid dreams are extraordinary - where you know you are dreaming and seize control and the perception of the dreamscape suddenly becomes realer than real in a way hard to describe to anyone never experiencing it. A Matrix like environment that you can do anything in - fly, walk through walls etc as if the star of the best virtual reality movie ever.
Dreams also do have the ability to transcend time by including things a few hours or so ahead as if they can just peer out over the train carriage window a short way and see something down the track that you cannot see from within.
Given all of that then I think science only knows a fraction of what the dream state can do. So I would not scoff and presume that it is impossible that some people who may have trained their minds to access things most of us do not have what you might describe as 'psychic' experiences.
When in truth they are probably just human experiences that we haven't quite got figured out yet.
True.
It must be a miserable life for some people to live without hope for something after we die.. maybe people don't want another life - which is even sadder..
I just don't understand how people dismiss it out of hand and mock anyone who believes in it so aggressively..
There is evidence from so many people yet people want science.. there is so many involved mysteries out there for a reason.
I dismiss it because there's not the slightest bit of evidence to suggest that there is something else after we die.
It would be nice if there was something, I don't deny that. ;-)
I actually find the idea of an eternal afterlife rather unnerving.
I don't really want to live forever.
None of this makes me miserable. I'm actually more interested in why you think it would be miserable to accept that death is the end. If we didn't exist before we were born, why is it so hard to conceive that we return to that state after death? And why is that an unpleasant thought?
Regardless, what I find pleasing is irrelevant. If there's no evidence for something, then I have no reason to believe in that something.
I'll trust science any day over anecdotes. People make up all kinds of crap... or they could just be mistaken. There are numerous, more likely explanations than "they're right".
In the same way there is no evidence there is nothing when we die.. so why not be a bit more open-minded?
There is many examples of people dreaming places or people they have never met or gone to yet.. with distinctive details it had to be real..
And children talking about past lives and all that stuff?
I just think there is too much evidence from people's accounts.. like the saying says there is no smoke without fire. I think it definitely requires people to be more open minded than dismiss something completely..
Science can't explain everything in the World, so why do people believe them in this!?
That's only your opinion.
Mine is that it can (though it certainly hasn't)
They dismiss it because there's no evidence and to these people it's completely unthinkable that something could exist without us having any scrap of knowledge about it. They have human intelligence firmly on a pedestal.