The Ratings Thread (Part 13)

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  • excel99excel99 Posts: 744
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    rzt wrote: »
    One thing that is blatantly clear about Tuesday nights at the moment is that the Grimefighter repeats should be pulled from the 7.30pm slot because it's been rating appaullingly and will have most likely had a negative knock-on effect on the 8pm programme.
    New River Monsters starts in that slot next week
    D.M.N. wrote: »
    No sign of a rescheduled EastEnders in the provisionals, so it looks like only 3 episodes maybe that week.
    dan2008 wrote: »
    They will do what they did last year and wait for a big episode and have an hour special to catch up rather then running a 2 normal episodes in one or catch up on Christmas as im sure it will air from Mon to the following Wednesday(only missing the weds) as xmas day is a Saturday and Boxing day a sunday so there's still extra episodes
    Considering how Christmas and New Years Day will fall on a Saturday, and Boxing Day on a Sunday, I wonder if they will wait until then to make up the missed half hour. If they stick to 11 half hour episodes over Christmas with the normal ones unchanged and Christmas Day an hour, that means New Years Day can only be 30 minutes, and nothing on Boxing Day. I don't think a Boxing Day episode is necessary (would be nice though) but just 30 minutes on NYD seems a bit short considering how there is usally a big New Years storyline
    rzt wrote: »
    Ways in which they could increase their Tuesday ratings would be to commission drama specifically for Tuesday and big live entertainment formats but 1) that would be more expensive and loss-making (especially in the drama case) and 2) dramas and live entertainment shows tend to be given better slots which suit them more (Sunday/Monday for drama and weekend for live shows). So they're basically left with 'factual entertainment' programming to dump on Tuesdays.
    What about trying Popstar to Operastar on a Tuesday?
  • C14EC14E Posts: 32,165
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    ABC:
    8pm – The Middle – 9.43m (2.8)
    * Series high?
    * Up 8% from last week
    8.30pm – Better With You – 7.76m (2.5)
    * Up 19% from last week
    * 89% retention from The Middle (A18-49)
    9pm – Modern Family – 13.07m (5.1)
    * Record high for the show
    * #1 scripted show of the week among A18-49
    * Up 9% from last week
    * Beat The World Series at 9pm among A18-49
    * Up 38% from same night last year
    9.30pm – Cougar Town – 8.26m (3.3)
    * Up 7% from last week
    * Best rating since season premiere
    10pm – The Whole Truth – 4.56m (1.2)
    * Series low
    * Down 8% from last week

    CBS:
    8pm – Survivor – 11.63m (3.4)
    * Season low
    * Down 3% from last week
    9pm – Criminal Minds – 13.94m (3.4)
    * Down 6%
    * Season low
    * Most watched broadcast at 9pm, 3rd in key demo
    10pm – The Defenders – 9.86m (2.1)
    * Down 6% from last week
    * Ties series low

    FOX:
    8pm – World Series Game 1 – 13.44m (4.3)
    * Subject to significant revision in final numbers
    * Down around 25% among adults 18-49 vs 2009

    NBC:
    8pm – Undercovers – 5.41m (1.4)
    * Series low

    tvbythenumbers

    Fantastic rating for Modern Family which will top Glee to be #1 show of the week in the key demo. ABC's entire comedy block performed well, although The Whole Truth is still doing horribly at 10pm.

    NBC aired repeats from 9pm.
  • C.M.W.C.M.W. Posts: 222
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    rzt wrote: »
    Do you have any idea what date The Royal Variety Performance is airing on BBC1? The only slot I can see free would be Sunday 12th December, the date of The X Factor final...

    Edit: Ah, it could air on Tuesday 14th December between 8pm and 10pm.

    More likely to be mid-week than the weekend, the last couple have been shown on Wednesdays, but that slot is filled until Xmas by you-know-what, which has been spare in the past couple of years.
  • dan2008dan2008 Posts: 37,279
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    excel99 wrote: »
    New River Monsters starts in that slot next week



    Considering how Christmas and New Years Day will fall on a Saturday, and Boxing Day on a Sunday, I wonder if they will wait until then to make up the missed half hour. If they stick to 11 half hour episodes over Christmas with the normal ones unchanged and Christmas Day an hour, that means New Years Day can only be 30 minutes, and nothing on Boxing Day. I don't think a Boxing Day episode is necessary (would be nice though) but just 30 minutes on NYD seems a bit short considering how there is usally a big New Years storyline


    What about trying Popstar to Operastar on a Tuesday?
    I don't think they will have an episode on New Years eve but Boxing day and New Years day is a must.

    EastEnders aired Boxing Day last year(the only soap too) and that was a Saturday so i think it's safe tosay we are going to get a non stop EastEnders from Thursday-Tuesday at least
  • D.M.N.D.M.N. Posts: 34,171
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    Apparently there will be an hour long EastEnders on Thursday 25th November to make up for the 3 episodes the previous week.
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    Not sure why the ABC comedy block was up so much, did they have Halloween specials? CBS I think was affected by the baseball but Criminal Minds is still doing solidly as is Survivor.

    NBC have a Shrek special which should do given how well Shrek the Halls does for ABC and Dreamworks specials have performed decently for them and of course like Charlie Brown are very repeatable.
  • dan2008dan2008 Posts: 37,279
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    D.M.N. wrote: »
    Apparently there will be an hour long EastEnders on Thursday 25th November to make up for the 3 episodes the previous week.
    Whats wrong with Wednesday 7:30pm/8:00pm:rolleyes:

    They should save the episode for the 9th Dec and run EastEnders 7:30pm-8:30pm:eek::D;)
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    Jonwo wrote: »
    Not sure why the ABC comedy block was up so much, did they have Halloween specials?

    Yes. Practically all ABC comedy shows this week are Halloween specials. Desperate Housewives are also having their Halloween episode this Sunday. Extreme Makeover: Home Edition are having a "Halloween Makeover".
  • C.M.W.C.M.W. Posts: 222
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    Jonwo wrote: »
    One of the Sundays in December will go to Sports Personality of the Year which usually airs at 8pm but they could rest Countryfile for a week and have it at 7pm. Wallander aired late November/early December in its first series so Zen could follow a similar pattern but I think January would be a better time, same with South Riding which I'm kind of surprised has only just finished shooting because there was footage in the BBC Drama reel.

    Any news on where Upstairs, Downstairs will be scheduled?

    SPOTY will be 7pm - 9pm on the 19th. It has been for about five or so years since it went on tour and the public were let in. Dec 12th and 19th therefore are still clear at the mo at 9pm and a three parter would fit nicely with part three sometime over Xmas.

    Upstairs, Downstairs is highly likely to be a candidate for Xmas.

    As for 2011, it looks like on hell of a strong start again. What with what has already been announced, there is still stuff like Silent Witness, Waking the Dead & Hustle to name but three to fit in the schedule too.
  • XIVXIV Posts: 21,544
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    paltonz wrote: »
    Yes. Practically all ABC comedy shows this week are Halloween specials. Desperate Housewives are also having their Halloween episode this Sunday. Extreme Makeover: Home Edition are having a "halloween makeover".

    Halloween is much bigger in America than it is here but producers do taylor episodes based around holidays like Christmas, Thanksgiving and sometimes Easter. Over here, we're sort of restricted too just Christmas specials although Vicar of Dibley did have an Easter special.
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    C.M.W. wrote: »
    As for 2011, it looks like on hell of a strong start again. What with what has already been announced, there is still stuff like Silent Witness, Waking the Dead & Hustle to name but three to fit in the schedule too.
    Yeah it looks strong for BBC1. I think in January, they'll have Hustle on Mondays, Outcasts on Tuesdays, other stuff (i.e. Carling Cup semis) on Wednesdays, Silent Witness on Thursdays and Fridays. That'll be a really good schedule for them.

    Like Jonwo, I expect Zen and South Riding to turn up on Sundays in January, with Lark Rise to Candleford returning in February, slightly later than usual due to having just 6 episodes instead of 12.
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    rzt wrote: »
    Yeah it looks strong for BBC1. I think in January, they'll have Hustle on Mondays, Outcasts on Tuesdays, other stuff (i.e. Carling Cup semis) on Wednesdays, Silent Witness on Thursdays and Fridays. That'll be a really good schedule for them.

    Like Jonwo, I expect Zen and South Riding to turn up on Sundays in January, with Lark Rise to Candleford returning in February, slightly later than usual due to having just 6 episodes instead of 12.

    Lark Rise is a 8pm show whereas Zen and South Riding will air at 9pm so it's possible it could air in January.

    I wonder if Masterchef will air in January or debut it later in February or March with the new format.
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    Jonwo wrote: »
    Lark Rise is a 8pm show whereas Zen and South Riding will air at 9pm so it's possible it could air in January.

    I wonder if Masterchef will air in January or debut it later in February or March with the new format.
    Oh yeah, I forgot Lark Rise is a 8pm show. In that case they could have all three of those dramas on Sunday nights in January.

    Will the new MasterChef be once a week or twice? I think if it's once a week, it could launch in late-January/early-Feb and air on Wednesdays at 8pm.
  • jake lylejake lyle Posts: 6,146
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    rzt wrote: »
    Yeah it looks strong for BBC1. I think in January, they'll have Hustle on Mondays, Outcasts on Tuesdays, other stuff (i.e. Carling Cup semis) on Wednesdays, Silent Witness on Thursdays and Fridays. That'll be a really good schedule for them.
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    Is outcasts definately moved?
    I think Outcasts will have to move to 2011, there just seems to be no room for it.
    Jonwo wrote: »
    I wonder if Masterchef will air in January or debut it later in February or March with the new format.

    Does it depend on the Carling Cup?
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    jake lyle wrote: »
    Is outcasts definately moved?
    I think Outcasts will have to move to 2011, there just seems to be no room for it.
    It's not definitely been moved but I'd assume so because like you say, there's hardly any room for it. I mean they could start it on Tuesdays in December after Turn Back Time ends but I suspect they'll leave those Tuesday slots free to air one-off events such as the Royal Variety and Christmas themed programmes during the holidays. So an early 2011 launch for Outcasts looks likely.
  • jake lylejake lyle Posts: 6,146
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    rzt wrote: »
    It's not definitely been moved but I'd assume so because like you say, there's hardly any room for it. I mean they could start it on Tuesdays in December after Turn Back Time ends but I suspect they'll leave those Tuesday slots free to air one-off events such as the Royal Variety and Christmas themed programmes during the holidays. So an early 2011 launch for Outcasts looks likely.

    I think your right, it's probably best to leave it until 2011.
    rzt wrote: »
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    Will the new MasterChef be once a week or twice? I think if it's once a week, it could launch in late-January/early-Feb and air on Wednesdays at 8pm.

    All I know about Masterchef is that its 16 hour long episodes with no more 30 minute episodes.
  • excel99excel99 Posts: 744
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    dan2008 wrote: »
    I don't think they will have an episode on New Years eve but Boxing day and New Years day is a must.
    When was the last time though Eastenders got moved from one of it's normal slots apart from sport, charity events or breaking news? It's always on normal days at normal times even during holiday periods. (Must be one of the most consistently scheduled evening shows there is). So I can't see there not being a New Years Eve episode.
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    excel99 wrote: »
    When was the last time though Eastenders got moved from one of it's normal slots apart from sport, charity events or breaking news? It's always on normal days at normal times even during holiday periods. (Must be one of the most consistently scheduled evening shows there is). So I can't see there not being a New Years Eve episode.
    I'm sure there'll be a New Year's Eve episode of EastEnders - I don't see why they wouldn't have one.

    It'll be interesting to see if there'll be any soaps on New Year's Day which falls on a Saturday. Although dan2008 says it's a must, the last time NYD fell on a Saturday (2005), there were no soaps.
  • sn_22sn_22 Posts: 6,472
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    BBC One seem to have run out of space before Christmas for all their drama. I can sort of understand the decisions on Sunday - Garrow's Law did a relatively modest 4m in that slot last year, but of course its constrained by the competetiveness of ITV's XF-boosted fare in the hour. If they've big hopes for Aurelio Zen or South Riding, waiting till next year makes sense. DOI appears relatively vulnerable.

    I hope they find a good slot for Outcasts. Tuesdays seem to be the kiss of death for a lot of drama. It shouldn't be on BBC One - Holby gives a great lead-in - but it's been ages since anything excelled there. Survivors, The Deep and Luther have all come a cropper there - to differing extents - over the course of 2010.

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    In the US, ABC must be absolutely delighted with the strength of their Wednesday comedy block. Mondays and Wednesdays has been the bright spot of a season which has mostly been one of flopping new series and the graceful decline of ageing dramas.

    It's a shame ABC isn't on the Superbowl rotation anymore since they gave MNF to ESPN. Something like a post-Superbowl episode (as Glee has next February on Fox) could just give Modern Family a boost into the stratosphere. Still, they'll be delighted its now topping even the notoriously strong CBS comedies (which do seem down a litttle thanks to the reshuffle).
  • BrekkieBrekkie Posts: 24,180
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    For whoever it was who asked - Hollyoaks Later got 580,000 last night.
    Andy23 wrote: »
    One good thing for Daybreak is at least during this half term week, they can mop up all the 'lowest ever ratings' stories at once. .

    Unless the press are going to report on how the 27th-31st December editions of Daybreak rate which I doubt, every edition from next week to mid February should in theory rate higher than this week and therefore the press stories should dry up, allowing some sort of increase to occur away from the gaze of the press.
    I wonder if it'll air at all that week, or whether they may give the Christmas slot to CITV (or other filler shows) and make a few tweaks over Christmas.
    all_night wrote: »
    Some Hollyoaks Later late night repeat figures. I'm pretty sure it's midnight it airs, or roundabout.

    Monday - 141,000
    Tuesday - 137,000

    http://www.atvnewsnetwork.co.uk/today/index.php/atv-today/4463-hollyoaks-later-success-for-e4
    Thanks for those.
    rzt wrote: »
    Million Pound Drop is doing very well for C4, especially the last two episodes. It's not a massive mega-hit but certainly a big improvement on how most programmes on Channel 4 have been rating recently. It'll be interesting to see if they bring this back as a daily format like right now or a weekly show, as they're having a couple of episodes airing weekly later this series.
    They're probably testing the water but I think a show like this seems to rely on momentum, so breaking for a week from Friday won't do it any favours.

    I'd have definately commissioned it to return in January instead of the Famous and Fearless show they have planned - and perhaps test the water at 9pm too.
  • dan2008dan2008 Posts: 37,279
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    rzt wrote: »
    I'm sure there'll be a New Year's Eve episode of EastEnders - I don't see why they wouldn't have one.

    It'll be interesting to see if there'll be any soaps on New Year's Day which falls on a Saturday. Although dan2008 says it's a must, the last time NYD fell on a Saturday (2005), there were no soaps.
    New Years Day Episodes of EastEnders seem to rate well these days though.
    I say do something like

    Monday Normal
    Tuesday Normal
    Thursday Normal
    Xmas Eve Normal
    Xmas Day 6:30pm & 9:30pm
    Boxing Day 8:00pm-8:40pm
    Monday Normal
    Tuesday NO Episode
    Thursday 30th NO Episode
    Friday 31st 8:00pm-8:40pm
    New Years Day 7:00pm & 8:30pm

    Emmerdale and Corrie can easily fit around that i think
    excel99 wrote: »
    When was the last time though Eastenders got moved from one of it's normal slots apart from sport, charity events or breaking news? It's always on normal days at normal times even during holiday periods. (Must be one of the most consistently scheduled evening shows there is). So I can't see there not being a New Years Eve episode.
    EastEnders is never out it's slot unless it has to be which us usually down to sport,charity events ect.
    Christmas is the only time EastEnders gets different slots
  • C.M.W.C.M.W. Posts: 222
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    Outcasts will now be 2011. This week is the last chance to start an eight parter before Xmas intrudes and unless it launches with no press and publicity, we'd already have known a date by now and as the rest of the 9pm slots are now sorted for the next few weeks, it has no choice but to slip back. It has been in development for a long time so a transmission "delay" of a few weeks won't harm it. The big question is "Will it be any good?" Kudos's track record would suggest it should be excellent, but you never know...

    Masterchef 2011 will be twice a week over eight weeks surely, asking an audience to keep watching for four months is too big an ask these days. Its been Feb - April recently, and I'd expect that to continue especially as they are still taking applications even now, so January looks unlikely and as we've already discussed, January looks full even now.
  • D.M.N.D.M.N. Posts: 34,171
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    From ITV Press Office: http://www.itv.com/presscentre/pressreleases/programmepressreleases/anightofheroesthesunmilitaryawards/default.html

    Pretty sure this aired on the Monday before Christmas last year, so I think it'll air on Monday 20th December.
  • jake lylejake lyle Posts: 6,146
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    C.M.W. wrote: »
    Masterchef 2011 will be twice a week over eight weeks surely, asking an audience to keep watching for four months is too big an ask these days. Its been Feb - April recently, and I'd expect that to continue especially as they are still taking applications even now, so January looks unlikely and as we've already discussed, January looks full even now.

    Thanks C.M.W, do you know when the second series of 'So you think you can dance' will air? As there seems to be a new 'magicans' show on Saturdays in January.
  • C.M.W.C.M.W. Posts: 222
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    jake lyle wrote: »
    Thanks C.M.W, do you know when the second series of 'So you think you can dance' will air? As there seems to be a new 'magicans' show on Saturdays in January.

    A lot later in the year than most are expecting, the application process requires contestants to have a work permit valid until Saturday June 11th 2011. I'd be surprised if it appears before March, so it appears it is taking the ALW slot which was originally the time of year SDF was on.
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