Without wishing to be pedantic his victims were old ladies
I really do not understand this mentality when it comes to crime and punishment.
This was a 13 year old child whose mind was still developing.
Clearly he has had to pay for his crimes. No one is denying that. It is the sentence that is harsh.
The attitude of some people, when it comes to law and order, disgusts me.
This is not about excusing criminality it is about making the sentence proportional.
He was 15, & I don't like the insinuation that just because people are near death anyway, it's alright for other people to kill them. I'd be inclined to let him out in about 10 years time, meaning that he would've served 35 years.
He was 15, & I don't like the insinuation that just because people are near death anyway, it's alright for other people to kill them. I'd be inclined to let him out in about 10 years time, meaning that he would've served 35 years.
He was 13 when he committed the crime, 15 by the time he was tried and sentenced for it,
I didn't feel sympathy for them but it does seem cruel keeping them on death row for many years before executing them. It should be done immediately after an appeal has failed.
Thing is, they are executed immediately after the failure of their last appeal - trouble being, that that appeal process, through all its stages and levels, takes upwards of 12 years or more.
Also, I think I'm right in saying (but not sure of the details) that constitutionally you have to appeal (and, therefore, submit yourself to years on death row). In other words, even the most remorseful guilt-accepting murderer wouldn't be allowed to simply accept the death sentence and say 'fair enough, kill me now' - they are required to appeal under US law.
Incidentally, a couple of people have referred to 'next week's episode' - just to point out that the second part is on tonight, not next week.
Thing is, they are executed immediately after the failure of their last appeal - trouble being, that that appeal process, through all its stages and levels, takes upwards of 12 years or more.
Also, I think I'm right in saying (but not sure of the details) that constitutionally you have to appeal (and, therefore, submit yourself to years on death row). In other words, even the most remorseful guilt-accepting murderer wouldn't be allowed to simply accept the death sentence and say 'fair enough, kill me now' - they are required to appeal under US law.
Incidentally, a couple of people have referred to 'next week's episode' - just to point out that the second part is on tonight, not next week.
I don't think that Timothy McVay (Oklahoma bomber) appealed, hence he was executed quite swiftly.
As much as I think these convicts are evil men and should be punished I'm not sure how much good it does executing them other than perhaps make the victim's family feel better. It certainly doesn't stop other horrendous crimes from happening.
It was funny seeing the cat, it made me think isn't there an official 10 Downing Street cat as well? (or there used to be) lol...full of criminals they are there (im just kidding of course).
I almost felt sorry for the guy who said he'd be in prison from the age of 20 to over 70 and his mum had died, though I didn't catch what his crime was? presumably murder :-/ he seemed decent enough, not that you can really tell though I suppose but some prisons come across alot more aggressive than others I think.
Regarding that guy who admitted to killing under contract, what about the person who paid him to do it - I take it he's in prison too? its awful to kill to hire but I wouldn't like to think the person who requested the hit somehow got away with a slapped wrist!
UK needs the death penalty badly , our justice system is the laughing stock of the world .
i have absolutely no problem whatsoever with it being re-introduced , not that it ever will be , all the do-gooders have pretty much ruined any chance of offenders ever being properly punished for there crimes .
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He was 15, & I don't like the insinuation that just because people are near death anyway, it's alright for other people to kill them. I'd be inclined to let him out in about 10 years time, meaning that he would've served 35 years.
In my understanding one the basis for both action and punishment in British Law is the question, 'Is it proportionate and reasonable ?'
He was 13 when he committed the crime, 15 by the time he was tried and sentenced for it,
Thing is, they are executed immediately after the failure of their last appeal - trouble being, that that appeal process, through all its stages and levels, takes upwards of 12 years or more.
Also, I think I'm right in saying (but not sure of the details) that constitutionally you have to appeal (and, therefore, submit yourself to years on death row). In other words, even the most remorseful guilt-accepting murderer wouldn't be allowed to simply accept the death sentence and say 'fair enough, kill me now' - they are required to appeal under US law.
Incidentally, a couple of people have referred to 'next week's episode' - just to point out that the second part is on tonight, not next week.
I hope they show some of the people featured in Part 1 again like Sanford and the guy who killed a cop, and not just new prisoners.
Maybe Trev could make a whole series out of this - visiting different maximum security prisons in the US.
I'd like to see the family of the victim given the right to decide the sentence.
I don't think that Timothy McVay (Oklahoma bomber) appealed, hence he was executed quite swiftly.
Programs like this facinate me
I almost felt sorry for the guy who said he'd be in prison from the age of 20 to over 70 and his mum had died, though I didn't catch what his crime was? presumably murder :-/ he seemed decent enough, not that you can really tell though I suppose but some prisons come across alot more aggressive than others I think.
From the safety of your living room no doubt:rolleyes:
Doesnt he realise if he (serving 50 years), or the others, never killed anyone they wouldnt have to be there.
i have absolutely no problem whatsoever with it being re-introduced , not that it ever will be , all the do-gooders have pretty much ruined any chance of offenders ever being properly punished for there crimes .