This thread on Digispy is fantastic. I've followed it on and off since March. Very informative and always up to date. Sandy is very passionate which can get her into trouble at times but is a brill poster. Moniker goes in to a lot of detail which is amazing at times but needs to condence more and make his posts smaller. Clair is just simply fantastic. Siobh and Konya keep it from getting boring when things are running slow. Rumb and Benji are so dedicated for Justice for Reeva. Jeremy is always on the ball and knows a thing or two about legal matters. There are many more who simply want justice and make great contributions. To say they are a bunch of "spinisters" in this blog is ridiculous. The Digispy thread on this trial is up at the top search on Google. And they are just taking the piss pretending to fancy G Nel. There is one poster who makes me crack up with their knowall attitude and is sure to cause chaos. In fact, when they post more than one all come together just like a BUS. It's all very very interesting. Just a great great great shame that a beautiful young girl had to die in a shocking way and no one wants to take responsability.
DS thread is a fantastic read with some very interesting posters. Sandy is my favourite, she is very funny and very passionate about justice for Reeva, as most all are on there actually. Fantastic bunch
This thread on Digispy is fantastic. I've followed it on and off since March. Very informative and always up to date. Sandy is very passionate which can get her into trouble at times but is a brill poster. Moniker goes in to a lot of detail which is amazing at times but needs to condence more and make his posts smaller. Clair is just simply fantastic. Siobh and Konya keep it from getting boring when things are running slow. Rumb and Benji are so dedicated for Justice for Reeva. Jeremy is always on the ball and knows a thing or two about legal matters. There are many more who simply want justice and make great contributions. To say they are a bunch of "spinisters" in this blog is ridiculous. The Digispy thread on this trial is up at the top search on Google. And they are just taking the piss pretending to fancy G Nel. There is one poster who makes me crack up with their knowall attitude and is sure to cause chaos. In fact, when they post more than one all come together just like a BUS. It's all very very interesting. Just a great great great shame that a beautiful young girl had to die in a shocking way and no one wants to take responsability.
and just to add - look at the blood trail. He was carrying Reeva with her head on his right arm as he went down the stairs. for that blood trail through the bedroom door he had to have been going through the door sideways with Reeva's head/his right arm exiting first.
They don't seem to have had very good detectives on the case.
DT allege Stipp saw a figure after he spoke or saw security at 3.27
From their heads -
217.2 He heard a man shouting, “help, help, help” after he had allegedly spoken to Security at 03:27 (Record 314, lines 4-5).
Their heads list a call to security at -
201. 03:27:06: Johan Stander’s call to 911 in the presence of Dr Stipp
202. 03:27:14 (duration nil): Dr Stipp’s attempted call to security (Exhibit Q2)
They also claim he saw a person In Bathroom after this call to security
238. However, according to Dr Stipp, he saw the Accused (a person) in the bathroom at approximately 03:30 which was (according to him) after he second call to security at 3.27
Now as I understand it Dr Stipp saw the person in the bathroom after he spoke to baba from the balcony when baba came round after the 3.15.51 call and that he had heard help he help after he made the call but before baba arrived.
Does anyone know if Dr Stipp maybe any errors when cross examined by Roux or is this Roux mixing up call times deliberately again? No doubt Roux was out to confuse.
DT allege Stipp saw a figure after he spoke or saw security at 3.27
From their heads -
217.2 He heard a man shouting, “help, help, help” after he had allegedly spoken to Security at 03:27 (Record 314, lines 4-5).
Their heads list a call to security at -
201. 03:27:06: Johan Stander’s call to 911 in the presence of Dr Stipp
202. 03:27:14 (duration nil): Dr Stipp’s attempted call to security (Exhibit Q2)
They also claim he saw a person In Bathroom after this call to security
238. However, according to Dr Stipp, he saw the Accused (a person) in the bathroom at approximately 03:30 which was (according to him) after he second call to security at 3.27
Now as I understand it Dr Stipp saw the person in the bathroom after he spoke to baba from the balcony when baba came round after the 3.15.51 call and that he had heard help he help after he made the call but before baba arrived.
Does anyone know if Dr Stipp maybe any errors when cross examined by Roux or is this Roux mixing up call times deliberately again? No doubt Roux was out to confuse.
you are correct. In cross-exam Roux did mention the 3:27 call and Stipp's response was I can't give you the exact times. But he was clear that he had seen the figure between calling security and them arriving. Roux knows damn well that Stipp would not have seen the figure when he was already at OP's house and neither did he agree to that misinterpretation of his evidence. I really don't know how Roux will get away without a reprimand for presenting these untruths.
DT allege Stipp saw a figure after he spoke or saw security at 3.27
From their heads -
217.2 He heard a man shouting, “help, help, help” after he had allegedly spoken to Security at 03:27 (Record 314, lines 4-5).
Their heads list a call to security at -
201. 03:27:06: Johan Stander’s call to 911 in the presence of Dr Stipp
202. 03:27:14 (duration nil): Dr Stipp’s attempted call to security (Exhibit Q2)
They also claim he saw a person In Bathroom after this call to security
238. However, according to Dr Stipp, he saw the Accused (a person) in the bathroom at approximately 03:30 which was (according to him) after he second call to security at 3.27
Now as I understand it Dr Stipp saw the person in the bathroom after he spoke to baba from the balcony when baba came round after the 3.15.51 call and that he had heard help he help after he made the call but before baba arrived.
Does anyone know if Dr Stipp maybe any errors when cross examined by Roux or is this Roux mixing up call times deliberately again? No doubt Roux was out to confuse.
I suspect Roux has just read out the baloney timeline figures that some backroom bod has worked out on excel or something. I don't think anyone actually checked first that there are contradictions, shall we say, in the times and DT own argument.
I found a stonker of an error regarding the Security check in times and locations whilst doing their checks round the estate.
I get the impression that Roux thought if he spoke quickly enough and with authority people would say "wow, the DT have nailed it with their timeline and argument"
But on closer inspection, it really does not hold much water.
I suspect Roux has just read out the baloney timeline figures that some backroom bod has worked out on excel or something. I don't think anyone actually checked first that there are contradictions, shall we say, in the times and DT own argument.
I found a stonker of an error regarding the Security check in times and locations whilst doing their checks round the estate.
I get the impression that Roux thought if he spoke quickly enough and with authority people would say "wow, the DT have nailed it with their timeline and argument"
But on closer inspection, it really does not hold much water.
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He's great at getting a leg up. On a chair!
this is not gonna help our reputation as sad spinsters, is it?
Perhaps he meant the left one from his point of view, leaving the bedroom?
This thread on Digispy is fantastic. I've followed it on and off since March. Very informative and always up to date. Sandy is very passionate which can get her into trouble at times but is a brill poster. Moniker goes in to a lot of detail which is amazing at times but needs to condence more and make his posts smaller. Clair is just simply fantastic. Siobh and Konya keep it from getting boring when things are running slow. Rumb and Benji are so dedicated for Justice for Reeva. Jeremy is always on the ball and knows a thing or two about legal matters. There are many more who simply want justice and make great contributions. To say they are a bunch of "spinisters" in this blog is ridiculous. The Digispy thread on this trial is up at the top search on Google. And they are just taking the piss pretending to fancy G Nel. There is one poster who makes me crack up with their knowall attitude and is sure to cause chaos. In fact, when they post more than one all come together just like a BUS. It's all very very interesting. Just a great great great shame that a beautiful young girl had to die in a shocking way and no one wants to take responsability.
i don't mind being a spinster now
To be fair, it seems to be the opinion of only one miserable git ;-)
I actually AM a sad spinster ;-) and proud of it!
...And Oscar award for Best Comedy Screenplay goes to.................Sandy!
Applause, cheers, whistles....:D:D:D
My thoughts exactly, probably a bit of Nelenvy...cant get a spinster of his own
Could Sandy be Ramona!
don't you recall him saying he had to open both doors to carry her through? to explain the damage? that was my point, there is only one door open.
Yes, I'm sure he did Claire.............>:(
ok, own up Siobhan!:D
and just to add - look at the blood trail. He was carrying Reeva with her head on his right arm as he went down the stairs. for that blood trail through the bedroom door he had to have been going through the door sideways with Reeva's head/his right arm exiting first.
They don't seem to have had very good detectives on the case.
hahahahaha. it's not me! i can't be bothered with all that capital letters business
We're the Splinter Spinsters. Like the Scissor Sisters with hairnets.
Sorry, couldn't resist - I read back to find out what the spinster malarkey was all about
i'm happy with the being a splinter spinster
From their heads -
217.2 He heard a man shouting, “help, help, help” after he had allegedly spoken to Security at 03:27 (Record 314, lines 4-5).
Their heads list a call to security at -
201. 03:27:06: Johan Stander’s call to 911 in the presence of Dr Stipp
202. 03:27:14 (duration nil): Dr Stipp’s attempted call to security (Exhibit Q2)
They also claim he saw a person In Bathroom after this call to security
238. However, according to Dr Stipp, he saw the Accused (a person) in the bathroom at approximately 03:30 which was (according to him) after he second call to security at 3.27
Now as I understand it Dr Stipp saw the person in the bathroom after he spoke to baba from the balcony when baba came round after the 3.15.51 call and that he had heard help he help after he made the call but before baba arrived.
Does anyone know if Dr Stipp maybe any errors when cross examined by Roux or is this Roux mixing up call times deliberately again? No doubt Roux was out to confuse.
Ha ha yes, the splinter spinsters.......try saying that when you've had a few!:D
I feel a song coming on... (to the tune " more than a woman" by the Bee Gee's)
one, two three, four
"hair netted women....hair netted women are we e eeee"
you are correct. In cross-exam Roux did mention the 3:27 call and Stipp's response was I can't give you the exact times. But he was clear that he had seen the figure between calling security and them arriving. Roux knows damn well that Stipp would not have seen the figure when he was already at OP's house and neither did he agree to that misinterpretation of his evidence. I really don't know how Roux will get away without a reprimand for presenting these untruths.
I suspect Roux has just read out the baloney timeline figures that some backroom bod has worked out on excel or something. I don't think anyone actually checked first that there are contradictions, shall we say, in the times and DT own argument.
I found a stonker of an error regarding the Security check in times and locations whilst doing their checks round the estate.
I get the impression that Roux thought if he spoke quickly enough and with authority people would say "wow, the DT have nailed it with their timeline and argument"
But on closer inspection, it really does not hold much water.
to be fair... that's what i thought