A Stoke fan that I work with believes that their home game against Arsenal on opening weekend has been moved to Sunday 4pm kick-off (obviously live on Sky), guess we will find out on Monday but if thats the case then Sky's opening weekend games will be
Sunday:
Everton v Man Utd 1.30pm
Stoke v Arsenal 4pm
Monday
Man City v Southampton 8pm
For your information, approximate commencement dates for broadcast selections are as follows:
The League plan to circulate changes to draft fixtures including TV picks (matches Aug-Nov) by July 5th
It's looking imminent that the TV fixtures will be released shortly as Sky Live on Sky Sports online has placed Premier League dates and times to be announced on its web page.
Just a quick thing. Here are dates/times where there's currently FL games scheduled for live Sky coverage that would suggest no Sky PL games at times that would clash with the live FL game.
Sat Aug 18th, 12.45pm
Sat Aug 25th, 5.20pm
Sat Sept 1st, 5.20pm
Sun Sept 16th, 1.15pm
Sun Sept 30th, 1.15pm
Sat Oct 6th, 5.20pm
Sat Oct 20th, 5.20pm
Sat Nov 17th, 5.20pm
Sun Nov 18th, 1.15pm
they prob wont have PL coverage on Sat nights when there's FL on but I imagine there will be Super Sunday games on at the same time as those Sunday kick-offs
Just a quick thing. Here are dates/times where there's currently FL games scheduled for live Sky coverage that would suggest no Sky PL games at times that would clash with the live FL game.
Sat Aug 18th, 12.45pm
Sat Aug 25th, 5.20pm
Sat Sept 1st, 5.20pm
Sun Sept 16th, 1.15pm
Sun Sept 30th, 1.15pm
Sat Oct 6th, 5.20pm
Sat Oct 20th, 5.20pm
Sat Nov 17th, 5.20pm
Sun Nov 18th, 1.15pm
Sky have indicated that Premier League programme start times of 1.30 and 3.30 on Sunday 19 and 26 August and 7pm on Monday 20 and 27 August.
they prob wont have PL coverage on Sat nights when there's FL on but I imagine there will be Super Sunday games on at the same time as those Sunday kick-offs
I very much doubt it. They very rarely, if ever, have PL and FL games clashing on Sky. Obviously the final day is different, and if ESPN have a PL game on a Saturday evening then Sky are going to be fine putting an FL game on at that time, same goes for Sundays, but they very rarely, if ever, have a direct clash on Sky.
Sun 19: Wigan v Chelsea (1.30pm)
Sun 19: Man City v Southampton (4pm)
Mon 20: Everton v Man Utd (8pm)
Sat 25: Swansea v West Ham (12.45pm)
Sun 26: Stoke v Arsenal (1.30pm)
Sun 26: Liverpool v Man City (4pm)
SEPTEMBER
Sat 1: West Ham v Fulham (12.45pm)
Sun 2: Liverpool v Arsenal (1.30pm)
Sun 2: Southampton v Man Utd (4pm)
Sat 15: Norwich v West Ham (12.45pm)
Sun 16: Reading v Tottenham (4pm)
Mon 17: Everton v Newcastle (8pm)
Sat 22: Swansea v Everton (12.45pm)
Sun 23: Liverpool v Man Utd (1.30pm)
Sun 23: Man City v Arsenal (4pm)
Sat 29: Arsenal v Chelsea (12.45pm)
Sun 30: Aston Villa v West Brom (4pm)
OCTOBER
Mon 1: QPR v West Ham (8pm)
Sat 6: Man City v Sunderland (12.45pm)
Sun 7: Southampton v Fulham (1.30pm)
Sun 7: Newcastle v Man Utd (4pm)
Sat 20: Tottenham v Chelsea (12.45pm)
Sun 21: Sunderland v Newcastle (1.30pm)
Sun 21: QPR v Everton (4pm)
Sat 27: Everton v Liverpool (12.45pm)
Sun 28: Aston Villa v Norwich (1.30pm)
Sun 28: Chelsea v Man Utd (4pm)
NOVEMBER
Sat 3: Man Utd v Arsenal (12.45pm)
Sun 4: QPR v Reading (1.30pm)
Sun 4: Liverpool v Newcastle (4pm)
Mon 5: West Brom v Southampton (8pm)
Sat 10: Aston Villa v Man Utd (5.30pm)
Sun 11: Man City v Tottenham (1.30pm)
Sun 11: Chelsea v Liverpool (4pm)
Sat 17: Arsenal v Tottenham (12.45pm)
Sun 18: Fulham v Sunderland (4pm)
Mon 19: West Ham v Stoke (8pm)
Sat 24: Swansea v Liverpool (12.45pm)
Sun 25: Sunderland v West Brom (1.30pm)
Sun 25: Chelsea v Man City (4pm)
Tue 27: Aston Villa v Reading (8pm)
Wed 28: Wigan v Man City (8pm)
August
Saturday 18: Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur 5:30pm
Saturday 25: Chelsea v Newcastle United 5:30pm
September
Saturday 1: Manchester City v Queens Park Rangers 5:30pm
Saturday 15: Sunderland v Liverpool 5:30pm
Saturday 29: Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur 5:30pm
October
Saturday 6: West Ham United v Arsenal 5:30pm
Saturday 20: Norwich City v Arsenal 5:30pm
Saturday 27: Manchester City v Swansea City 5:30pm
November
Saturday 3: West Ham United v Manchester City 5:30pm
Saturday 17: Norwich City v Manchester United 5:30pm
Saturday 24: Aston Villa v Arsenal 5:30pm
TV games are out. Not on the PL website yet, but Sky start with Wigan vs. Chelsea and Man City vs. Southampton on the Sunday, and Everton vs. Manchester United on the Monday night.
As I said a day or 2 ago, and as I expected, there are no FL/PL clashes on Sky. The only clashes are the same as the last couple of seasons, ie PL on ESPN clashing with FL on Sky, but that won't bother Sky as they're seemingly happy with that as it means they don't have a clash on their own channels.
As I said a day or 2 ago, and as I expected, there are no FL/PL clashes on Sky. The only clashes are the same as the last couple of seasons, ie PL on ESPN clashing with FL on Sky, but that won't bother Sky as they're seemingly happy with that as it means they don't have a clash on their own channels.
They actively avoid clashing PL and FL if they can help it (PL and SPL doesn't seem to bother them).
The only major clashes I can remember in recent seasons are the Merseyside Derby going up against a non-British CL game (the Derby was re-arranged due to the CC Final), and PL (Everton vs. Sunderland, I think?), Carling Cup (Manchester Derby) and SPL games on SS1/2/3 all at the same time.
Oh don't get me wrong I know they actively try to avoid clashes where possible at least with the PL and FL, was merely confirming that what I expected to happen (no PL/FL clashes on Sky) has happened.
lol I didn't realise all ESPN's matches were in the Saturday @ 17:30 slot.
They probably wont be as the season progresses, there is some level of co-operation between ESPN and Sky and one or two slots were swapped last season I think.
Given that Sky have ceded/lost the 12.45 Saturday games to BT from 2013/14 I would expect them to minimise the number of times they use this slot for major games this season.
Psychological warfare to plant the impression that this slot is not the place to find big teams.
There are some in the list, mostly local derby games like Arsenal v Chelsea that are probably police dictates. But a lot of Swansea, West Ham type games notice. Where possible Sky will put big games on Sunday where they always rate better than Saturday lunch time. And this will reinforce the impression with viewers that by retaining all Sunday games in 2013/14 and adding the Saturday evening games from ESPN that they are still the channel to turn to.
Man U - 7
Man C - 7
Liverpool - 7
Arsenal - 6
Chelsea - 6
Spurs - 4
Indication of Sky treating it as "big 5" rather than "big 6".
I think when it comes to BT, Sky will pick every single "big 5" head to head (which they can IF Sporting Intelligence is correct; excluding any which are midweek / BH) and then they also will get 5 Spurs games vs big 5 as BT will be constrained by max quota of 5 (ie BT can only pick 5 out of 10 even if all 10 are "available"). That looks to me like Sky's optimum tactic.
Not showing Spurs v Liverpool voluntarily is an advance indicator.
(I know the point was made in the other thread that BT has 2 extra 5th picks in G at Sat 12.45pm. But they won't be able to use them for Spurs v big 5 as Sky will have taken the other 5 of those games as 2nd/3rd/4th picks in the week where BT couldn't pick them as 1st pick as constrained by max quota).
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On opening weekend Stoke are away to Reading.
Arsenal are home to Sunderland.
It will be televised, but not live (in the UK). It's Champions League final qualifying round night (1st legs).
So don't expect anything until THURSDAY
Sat Aug 18th, 12.45pm
Sat Aug 25th, 5.20pm
Sat Sept 1st, 5.20pm
Sun Sept 16th, 1.15pm
Sun Sept 30th, 1.15pm
Sat Oct 6th, 5.20pm
Sat Oct 20th, 5.20pm
Sat Nov 17th, 5.20pm
Sun Nov 18th, 1.15pm
Sky have indicated that Premier League programme start times of 1.30 and 3.30 on Sunday 19 and 26 August and 7pm on Monday 20 and 27 August.
I very much doubt it. They very rarely, if ever, have PL and FL games clashing on Sky. Obviously the final day is different, and if ESPN have a PL game on a Saturday evening then Sky are going to be fine putting an FL game on at that time, same goes for Sundays, but they very rarely, if ever, have a direct clash on Sky.
AUGUST
Sun 19: Wigan v Chelsea (1.30pm)
Sun 19: Man City v Southampton (4pm)
Mon 20: Everton v Man Utd (8pm)
Sat 25: Swansea v West Ham (12.45pm)
Sun 26: Stoke v Arsenal (1.30pm)
Sun 26: Liverpool v Man City (4pm)
SEPTEMBER
Sat 1: West Ham v Fulham (12.45pm)
Sun 2: Liverpool v Arsenal (1.30pm)
Sun 2: Southampton v Man Utd (4pm)
Sat 15: Norwich v West Ham (12.45pm)
Sun 16: Reading v Tottenham (4pm)
Mon 17: Everton v Newcastle (8pm)
Sat 22: Swansea v Everton (12.45pm)
Sun 23: Liverpool v Man Utd (1.30pm)
Sun 23: Man City v Arsenal (4pm)
Sat 29: Arsenal v Chelsea (12.45pm)
Sun 30: Aston Villa v West Brom (4pm)
OCTOBER
Mon 1: QPR v West Ham (8pm)
Sat 6: Man City v Sunderland (12.45pm)
Sun 7: Southampton v Fulham (1.30pm)
Sun 7: Newcastle v Man Utd (4pm)
Sat 20: Tottenham v Chelsea (12.45pm)
Sun 21: Sunderland v Newcastle (1.30pm)
Sun 21: QPR v Everton (4pm)
Sat 27: Everton v Liverpool (12.45pm)
Sun 28: Aston Villa v Norwich (1.30pm)
Sun 28: Chelsea v Man Utd (4pm)
NOVEMBER
Sat 3: Man Utd v Arsenal (12.45pm)
Sun 4: QPR v Reading (1.30pm)
Sun 4: Liverpool v Newcastle (4pm)
Mon 5: West Brom v Southampton (8pm)
Sat 10: Aston Villa v Man Utd (5.30pm)
Sun 11: Man City v Tottenham (1.30pm)
Sun 11: Chelsea v Liverpool (4pm)
Sat 17: Arsenal v Tottenham (12.45pm)
Sun 18: Fulham v Sunderland (4pm)
Mon 19: West Ham v Stoke (8pm)
Sat 24: Swansea v Liverpool (12.45pm)
Sun 25: Sunderland v West Brom (1.30pm)
Sun 25: Chelsea v Man City (4pm)
Tue 27: Aston Villa v Reading (8pm)
Wed 28: Wigan v Man City (8pm)
August
Saturday 18: Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur 5:30pm
Saturday 25: Chelsea v Newcastle United 5:30pm
September
Saturday 1: Manchester City v Queens Park Rangers 5:30pm
Saturday 15: Sunderland v Liverpool 5:30pm
Saturday 29: Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur 5:30pm
October
Saturday 6: West Ham United v Arsenal 5:30pm
Saturday 20: Norwich City v Arsenal 5:30pm
Saturday 27: Manchester City v Swansea City 5:30pm
November
Saturday 3: West Ham United v Manchester City 5:30pm
Saturday 17: Norwich City v Manchester United 5:30pm
Saturday 24: Aston Villa v Arsenal 5:30pm
How odd.
The only major clashes I can remember in recent seasons are the Merseyside Derby going up against a non-British CL game (the Derby was re-arranged due to the CC Final), and PL (Everton vs. Sunderland, I think?), Carling Cup (Manchester Derby) and SPL games on SS1/2/3 all at the same time.
They probably wont be as the season progresses, there is some level of co-operation between ESPN and Sky and one or two slots were swapped last season I think.
ESPN gets Man Utd v Spurs so Sky miss two head to heads up to end of November .
Three if you include Newcastle as a "big" side and all before the end of September too.
Psychological warfare to plant the impression that this slot is not the place to find big teams.
There are some in the list, mostly local derby games like Arsenal v Chelsea that are probably police dictates. But a lot of Swansea, West Ham type games notice. Where possible Sky will put big games on Sunday where they always rate better than Saturday lunch time. And this will reinforce the impression with viewers that by retaining all Sunday games in 2013/14 and adding the Saturday evening games from ESPN that they are still the channel to turn to.
Man U - 7
Man C - 7
Liverpool - 7
Arsenal - 6
Chelsea - 6
Spurs - 4
Indication of Sky treating it as "big 5" rather than "big 6".
I think when it comes to BT, Sky will pick every single "big 5" head to head (which they can IF Sporting Intelligence is correct; excluding any which are midweek / BH) and then they also will get 5 Spurs games vs big 5 as BT will be constrained by max quota of 5 (ie BT can only pick 5 out of 10 even if all 10 are "available"). That looks to me like Sky's optimum tactic.
Not showing Spurs v Liverpool voluntarily is an advance indicator.
(I know the point was made in the other thread that BT has 2 extra 5th picks in G at Sat 12.45pm. But they won't be able to use them for Spurs v big 5 as Sky will have taken the other 5 of those games as 2nd/3rd/4th picks in the week where BT couldn't pick them as 1st pick as constrained by max quota).