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Could you have survived in auswtich?

mal2poolmal2pool Posts: 5,690
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or any camp......Maybe a stupid question or a rhetorical one as most were killed as they arrived.
Just if you were the chosen one to live, could you survive that environment. The smell, diseases, lice, infections, abuse, sleeping in a spoon position as there was no room, bodies around.
Who knows until you have the situation.Not sure if i could.
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    HieronymousHieronymous Posts: 7,290
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    No!

    We were shown some film(s) of the camps in General Studies when I was at college and the POWs were little more than living skeletons.
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    Pumping IronPumping Iron Posts: 29,891
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    No I don't do hunger or abuse very well.
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    rupert_pupkinrupert_pupkin Posts: 3,975
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    I reckon I might have escaped, I spent my whole childhood sneaking in or out of places and I'd see it as a challenge
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    cnbcwatchercnbcwatcher Posts: 56,681
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    Definitely not. I think sooner or later I would have escaped or died.
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    mal2poolmal2pool Posts: 5,690
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    Yes its a pity they couldnt all rise up and try and kill the guards. Wonder if some did rebel. I would have thrown myself on the electric fence or try did a tunnel
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    goonernataliegoonernatalie Posts: 4,178
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    No I would not
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    HenryGartenHenryGarten Posts: 24,800
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    mal2pool wrote: »
    Yes its a pity they couldnt all rise up and try and kill the guards. Wonder if some did rebel. I would have thrown myself on the electric fence or try did a tunnel

    There was a rebellion at one point. Would have to check the details.
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    trevgotrevgo Posts: 28,241
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    With respect, this is rather a facile discussion.

    Nobody on here can even remotely conceive what it was like, nor whether the human instinct for survival would have overcome all. I doubt it. Nothing could have saved you had you have been in a deathcamp.

    I've been to Auschwitz, and it's harrowing even when empty, and in the case of Birkenau, purely a ruin.
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    jojoenojojoeno Posts: 1,842
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    Having been there just before Christmas I am surprised anybody survived there. I have to honestly state that it was very emotional and the scale of these camps is breath taking . Also the allies knew about them and did nothing. The Russians actually sat in Krakow for 3 weeks before entering Auschwitz and all the Nazis escaped and thousands of inmates sent on the long death match to Dachau.

    If there is something you must do before you die a visit to Auschwitz is a must

    It is a permanent reminder to all , no matter what political persuasion , always to stand up to fascism and all its evil .
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    Louise32Louise32 Posts: 6,784
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    It was undoubtedly horrific and a testament of mankind's inhumanity to fellow man.

    Some people obviously did survive but would have been scarred for life by it.

    How would you get over such things? You couldn't really, you'd just be getting by on a daily basis.
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    jojoenojojoeno Posts: 1,842
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    HenryGarten wrote: »
    There was a rebellion at one point. Would have to check the details.

    Yeah the Sonderkommando (all jews) killed their SS guards and within a few hours they were all dead ...after that the Sonderkommandos often were locked inside the gas chambers with ordinary victims , they never knew when their time would be up either.
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    Louise32Louise32 Posts: 6,784
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    jojoeno wrote: »
    Having been there just before Christmas I am surprised anybody survived there. I have to honestly state that it was very emotional and the scale of these camps is breath taking . Also the allies knew about them and did nothing. The Russians actually sat in Krakow for 3 weeks before entering Auschwitz and all the Nazis escaped and thousands of inmates sent on the long death match to Dachau.

    If there is something you must do before you die a visit to Auschwitz is a must

    It is a permanent reminder to all , no matter what political persuasion , always to stand up to fascism and all its evil .

    I couldn't visit there or any of the concentration camps as thought of it's too horrific.

    As long as people know what happened. There may be a few Holocaust deniers but the vast majority of people aren't.

    It won't be forgotten.
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    mal2poolmal2pool Posts: 5,690
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    I know its a stupid discussion. You really don't know unless it happens. I feel sorry most for those poor children who didnt have a clue what was happening to them and that evil Mengel doing ghastly experiments on them. Poor innocent people. What a waste. Why people cant just live together in this great world i dont know.
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    jojoenojojoeno Posts: 1,842
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    Louise32 wrote: »
    I couldn't visit there or any of the concentration camps as thought of it's too horrific.

    As long as people know what happened. There may be a few Holocaust deniers but the vast majority of people aren't.

    It won't be forgotten.

    Louise go , and learn more about these awful events fro just a few years ago
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    Chihiro94Chihiro94 Posts: 2,667
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    Just visiting there was harrowing and horrific, so no I probably wouldn't of. From what I gather escaping would have be nigh on impossible. Roll call had to be something like the same number at both ends of the day even if they weren't all alive anymore. A successful escape attempt would probably just have punished others, one of the guides told us of one where either one or a few people escaped and so they locked up a number of people in isolated cells to basically starve to death.

    It's easy to sit here and hypothesis now but I don't think its fair on the victims. (I know you don't mean any offense and I don't mean any either). They were in an impossibly difficult situation. Would the people saying they would escape or rebel really try knowing that if they failed they would just increase their personal suffering or if they succeeded (and actually probably failed as well) incite it on other completely innocent people as well. How would you realistically go about that when physically exhausted and malnourished?
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    Tim_WilkesTim_Wilkes Posts: 435
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    mal2pool wrote: »
    or any camp......Maybe a stupid question or a rhetorical one as most were killed as they arrived.
    Just if you were the chosen one to live, could you survive that environment. The smell, diseases, lice, infections, abuse, sleeping in a spoon position as there was no room, bodies around.
    Who knows until you have the situation.Not sure if i could.

    A similar environment still exists in prisons in 3rd world countries.
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    geemonkeegeemonkee Posts: 2,720
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    Heard the son of a survivor talking about his fathers experiences and he said his survival was just down to "pure luck", nothing more, nothing less.
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    benjaminibenjamini Posts: 32,066
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    No disrespect but I find it rather demeaning to all those millions who suffered horrors beyond our wildest imagines to play let's speculate on our survival chances in there.
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    artnadaartnada Posts: 10,113
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    HenryGarten wrote: »
    There was a rebellion at one point. Would have to check the details.
    Quickly quelled
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    Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
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    No, I'm nowhere near as strong as those who survived.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 841
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    mal2pool wrote: »
    or any camp......Maybe a stupid question or a rhetorical one as most were killed as they arrived.
    Just if you were the chosen one to live, could you survive that environment. The smell, diseases, lice, infections, abuse, sleeping in a spoon position as there was no room, bodies around.
    Who knows until you have the situation.Not sure if i could.

    Wow...just wow! Also it's auschwitz by the way.
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    jojoenojojoeno Posts: 1,842
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    Escape was extremely hard as the Germans had a 30 Km exclusion zone around the nearby town of Oswedium and they killed 12000 of the jews who lived there and the other 2000 citizens were moved to Krakow it was in yesterdays DM
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    artnadaartnada Posts: 10,113
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    rupert_pupkin wrote: »
    I reckon I might have escaped, I spent my whole childhood sneaking in or out of places and I'd see it as a challenge
    Fantasy Island Auschwitz wasn't! /rolleyes/ Most were dead within 30 minutes of arriving.
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    CerealKiller wrote: »
    Wow...just wow! Also it's auschwitz by the way.
    :confused:
    What do you thinks wrong with mal2pools post.
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    rupert_pupkinrupert_pupkin Posts: 3,975
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    artnada wrote: »
    Fantasy Island Auschwitz wasn't! /rolleyes/ Most were dead within 30 minutes of arriving.

    And yet 114 people escaped
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