the Brownies/ guides has always been the female equivalent of the cub scouts. That was the reason it was set up. Those links just sound like they could have been written by Harriet Harman to me and go too far the other way. I made an error when i said women's rights movement i should have said women's superiority movement.
Yeah you tell yourself that. Reading the links and knowing there is nothing outrageous at all, just common sense, I don't believe you for a second. Or are you really a very old man?
If they'd advocated topless sunbathing would it all have been acceptable?
I really won't be encouraging my daughter to join if this is what they have descended to?
I know, it's sickening. As a father of three daughters I am outraged. How dare this insidious organization promote ambition, confidence and self-respect in young girls? I don't want my daughters getting all uppity, thinking they can achieve anything. >:(
I know, it's sickening. As a father of three daughters I am outraged. How dare this insidious organization promote ambition, confidence and self-respect in young girls? I don't want my daughters getting all uppity, thinking they can achieve anything. >:(
I just knew this would be a female hating thread when I saw the ops name
female hating thread? No just the critizing of militant feminists. ;-) that includes white knights too. Why do you get the impression i hate women? you couldn't be further from the truth.
Sorry, you sound like the kind of Dad whose daughter would need this kind of input.
Which point did the girls raise that got you objecting?
Sexual harrassment at school is ok by you? You'd tell her to take it as a compliment?
FGM is not an appalling type of cruelty? It's just part of being a girl?
Girls should be not listened to the way they weren't at Rochdale?
The Girl Guide movement has always tried to encourage strong independent girls. It's more needed now than ever it was.
Maybe the Stop Page 3 campaign stuck in his graw.
I remember a time when there were nudey ladies on lager cans. Damned interfering Brownies.
female hating thread? No just the critizing of militant feminists. ;-) that includes white knights too. Why do you get the impression i hate women? you couldn't be further from the truth.
Perhaps it's because you seem to be frothing at the mouth about something that is sending a very (and much needed) positive message to girls?
The ones who run my daughter's are lovely. They look barely older than the Brownies.
I wasn't some big rebel or anything, I just didn't care about getting the badges, got a bit lost in the country dancing - which I know they thought was deliberate scuppering but right and left are a problem for me, and basically, as a child I found it hard to keep my trap shut, in a polite and educated way, but a bit uncomfortable I think.
Father was a university teacher, the women there were draconian types with WI credentials and a deal of rather suburban ferocity.
Made me laugh. I was rather a GOOD girl actually.:D
It all seems ok tbh apart from the no more page 3 thing.
I wouldn't mind seeing the back of Page 3, as long as the Daily Mail's sidebar of shame and those bloody horrible body shaming, materialistic women's magazines go with it.
I always have a nagging suspicion that use of the word feminazi with straight face requires there to be some crippling feelings of inadequacy on the part of the user tbh. And about the frickin brownies!!! lol how silly.
Exactly. Anyone who used the term feminazi sincerely cedes all right to be taken seriously.
I know, it's sickening. As a father of three daughters I am outraged. How dare this insidious organization promote ambition, confidence and self-respect in young girls? I don't want my daughters getting all uppity, thinking they can achieve anything. >:(
If only they decided to follow their rightful calling and decide to become mothers or erm... poll-dancers.
I know, it's sickening. As a father of three daughters I am outraged. How dare this insidious organization promote ambition, confidence and self-respect in young girls? I don't want my daughters getting all uppity, thinking they can achieve anything. >:(
but why do they need something like this to encourage them and have self respect? isn't that implying that women are inferior so need special encouragement. How is that equality?
I wasn't some big rebel or anything, I just didn't care about getting the badges, got a bit lost in the country dancing - which I know they thought was deliberate scuppering but right and left are a problem for me, and basically, as a child I found it hard to keep my trap shut, in a polite and educated way, but a bit uncomfortable I think.
Father was a university teacher, the women there were draconian types with WI credentials and a deal of rather suburban ferocity.
Made me laugh. I was rather a GOOD girl actually.:D
Aw, I would struggle with the country dancing too. No coordination whatsoever. I did laugh at 'deliberate scuppering' though. They sound like a dreadful bunch to be running Brownies. Sound a bit like our daughter's GB leaders. We were so glad a place came up with Brownies and she left it. They were WI harridans too.
Our local Brownie group is brilliant. I hope they get to go away more in guides though. So far it's mainly been a lot of working toward their Hostess and Cookery badges. So very not feminazi.
Son is in Beavers and I expect there will be a time in the future that our daughter will see her brother doing more - camping, etc - and feel short-changed but unfortunately no girls are allowed in our local Scout group. Shame. I'd quite to be a Scout myself.
but why do they need something like this to encourage them and have self respect? isn't that implying that women are inferior so need special encouragement. How is that equality?
It would only imply such a thing if women were already actually treated as equals in our culture and society. They aren't though, however much you would wish to deny it.
Aw, I would struggle with the country dancing too. No coordination whatsoever. I did laugh at 'deliberate scuppering' though. They sound like a dreadful bunch to be running Brownies. Sound a bit like our daughter's GB leaders. We were so glad a place came up with Brownies and she left it. They were WI harridans too.
Our local Brownie group is brilliant. I hope they get to go away more in guides though. So far it's mainly been a lot of working toward their Hostess and Cookery badges. So very not feminazi.
Son is in Beavers and I expect there will be a time in the future that our daughter will see her brother doing more - camping, etc - and feel short-changed but unfortunately no girls are allowed in our local Scout group. Shame. I'd quite to be a Scout myself.
Good luck to them all. Social activities with learning and some good singing an' all, what's not to love?
Good for 'em. A step towards 'it takes a village to raise a child'.:D
It would only imply such a thing if women were already actually treated as equals in our culture and society. They aren't though, however much you would wish to deny it.
I wouldn't mind seeing the back of Page 3, as long as the Daily Mail's sidebar of shame and those bloody horrible body shaming, materialistic women's magazines go with it.
Its always about censoring things / banning things with you lot isn't it?
When did this happen? I just read this latest campaign and it appears they have turned into some women's rights movement and not a very good one at that. It's a real shame that something that used to be about camaraderie, camp fires, survival skills, sports and games now appears to be an awful feminists rights movement.
I really won't be encouraging my daughter to join if this is what they have descended to?
I am uncomfortable with some of the more militant feminism. The type that the (awkward) term 'feminazi' is reserved for. So I could have agreed with you.
But I just don't see what is so extreme about the things they are promoting? Women do have low representation in the top positions, plenty of girls do have low body confidence. I don't agree with their stance on page 3 - I find the Sun an awful newspaper but page 3 isn't one of it's biggest issues in my opinion, although I do question what place it has in a so called 'news' paper, but then you could say that about a lot of things in it.
Basically, I would like to know what you find so 'feminazi' about these campaigns?
Don't forget the pinnacle of any young girl's ambition. Page 3
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that Thatcher only became PM so she should get in the papers. They kept putting her on the front instead of page 3 like she had dreamed of as a girl though.
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Be fair, he loves strippers.
#notallwomen
The ones who run my daughter's are lovely. They look barely older than the Brownies.
Yeah you tell yourself that. Reading the links and knowing there is nothing outrageous at all, just common sense, I don't believe you for a second. Or are you really a very old man?
If they'd advocated topless sunbathing would it all have been acceptable?
I know, it's sickening. As a father of three daughters I am outraged. How dare this insidious organization promote ambition, confidence and self-respect in young girls? I don't want my daughters getting all uppity, thinking they can achieve anything. >:(
No all he wants is for the women in his household to stop asking him to go buy tampons when they are dying of cramps. Then all would be gravy.
female hating thread? No just the critizing of militant feminists. ;-) that includes white knights too. Why do you get the impression i hate women?
Maybe the Stop Page 3 campaign stuck in his graw.
I remember a time when there were nudey ladies on lager cans. Damned interfering Brownies.
Perhaps it's because you seem to be frothing at the mouth about something that is sending a very (and much needed) positive message to girls?
I wasn't some big rebel or anything, I just didn't care about getting the badges, got a bit lost in the country dancing - which I know they thought was deliberate scuppering but right and left are a problem for me, and basically, as a child I found it hard to keep my trap shut, in a polite and educated way, but a bit uncomfortable I think.
Father was a university teacher, the women there were draconian types with WI credentials and a deal of rather suburban ferocity.
Made me laugh. I was rather a GOOD girl actually.:D
I wouldn't mind seeing the back of Page 3, as long as the Daily Mail's sidebar of shame and those bloody horrible body shaming, materialistic women's magazines go with it.
Exactly. Anyone who used the term feminazi sincerely cedes all right to be taken seriously.
If only they decided to follow their rightful calling and decide to become mothers or erm... poll-dancers.
but why do they need something like this to encourage them and have self respect?
Aw, I would struggle with the country dancing too. No coordination whatsoever. I did laugh at 'deliberate scuppering' though. They sound like a dreadful bunch to be running Brownies. Sound a bit like our daughter's GB leaders. We were so glad a place came up with Brownies and she left it. They were WI harridans too.
Our local Brownie group is brilliant. I hope they get to go away more in guides though. So far it's mainly been a lot of working toward their Hostess and Cookery badges. So very not feminazi.
Son is in Beavers and I expect there will be a time in the future that our daughter will see her brother doing more - camping, etc - and feel short-changed but unfortunately no girls are allowed in our local Scout group. Shame. I'd quite to be a Scout myself.
It would only imply such a thing if women were already actually treated as equals in our culture and society. They aren't though, however much you would wish to deny it.
Don't forget the pinnacle of any young girl's ambition. Page 3
Good luck to them all. Social activities with learning and some good singing an' all, what's not to love?
Good for 'em. A step towards 'it takes a village to raise a child'.:D
Yeah, pretty much ^this^.
Its always about censoring things / banning things with you lot isn't it?
Who lot? Feminazis or DSers or people who think the Mail's sidebar of shame is banal, unnecessary shyte?
I am uncomfortable with some of the more militant feminism. The type that the (awkward) term 'feminazi' is reserved for. So I could have agreed with you.
But I just don't see what is so extreme about the things they are promoting? Women do have low representation in the top positions, plenty of girls do have low body confidence. I don't agree with their stance on page 3 - I find the Sun an awful newspaper but page 3 isn't one of it's biggest issues in my opinion, although I do question what place it has in a so called 'news' paper, but then you could say that about a lot of things in it.
Basically, I would like to know what you find so 'feminazi' about these campaigns?
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that Thatcher only became PM so she should get in the papers. They kept putting her on the front instead of page 3 like she had dreamed of as a girl though.