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Will Fernando Torres be the next Shevchenko?
NorthernNinny
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50 million pounds. Have Liverpool had the last laugh? Is it a case of the grass not being always greener?:o
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He may come good, but based on performances, in general, over the last year or so (for Liverpool and in the World Cup), it's not unfair to say that maybe injury has taken the edge off him as a top, top class player.
The money Chelsea paid for him always looked questionable and as yet it all points to the sign that says it was a bad call.
Why on earth shouldn't another mega expensive flop, the highest paid player in the league, one who renegotiated a deal just a few months ago, be mentioned in a thread about expensive Premiership flops when he's flopping big time?
I'm sorry I don't quite see your logic.
Does Torres belong aside other Premiership expensive flops eg Shevchenko, Rooney right now, Veron etc yes, I'd say for Chelsea he's starting to look like it, yes.
What's Rooney got to do with it?Yes, he's having a mare of a season but he's not cost 50 million.:yawn:
Well it look good at present for LFC doesn't it - who'd you rather have - Suarez who cost 23m or Torres who cost 50m?
Craig Johnston summed it up a couple of days ago by calling him 'the pretty boy who does not even try'.
Mind you I am reluctant to gloat too early as things may change as certainly Torres used to be a fantastic player - but he hasn't really shown it for at least a season and a half - whether he ever will is the key point - who knows?
Whatever happens tho I know Liverpool fans are absolutely buzzing with the form of Mr Suarez who they see as better, younger, more committed and cheaper than their former number 9. Happy days indeed.
It's a thread about Torres and how he'll do at Chelsea, yet you instantly jab at Man Utd.
Again.
Should be in the Champions League quarters as well.
Torres I feel was signed by Abramvoich and was forced on the manager who wasnt than keen.
His transfer fee means he has to keep getting a game he has probably been told to play him as well.
This was the scenario with Shevchenko as well, can see Torres being given next season then shipped out on loan to Spain if it is not happening
Oh so this thread is one just aimed at having a go at Chelsea and not talking genuinely about expensive Premiership flops at all.
OK, I'm sorry, I'll leave you to it.
I'm surprised you haven't slipped in a few more Utd players as well. Torres cost 50 million. The most expensive signing in the premier league so far. Utd may have messed up with Veron but they weren't daft enough to buy a proven premier league flop like some club I could mention!
It's asking whether a £50m striker who's yet to score will end up a success overall and whether Liverpool have the better of the deal.
Yes, I'd say Liverpool got the best deal, I thought that before Torres even turned up for Chelsea.
Still, If Torres does something in the Champions league, which is Chelsea's real goal, the signing will definitely be seen as more than worth while in my opinion.
However, myself, I feel that Torres is a crock who will never return to the form he previously showed, not in any consistency anyway.
I could also turn this question around and ask whether Andy Carroll will be a flop but he's been injured so far, so the jury's still out on him. For all the money Liverpool got for Torres, they may have acted in haste buying Carroll. Time will tell.
What he said. At least try to be subtle. A bit.
Anyway, back on topic. I'm enjoying Torres' sticky start but he is top class and will soon be hitting his goal every two games standard. Form is temporary, class is permanent.
Yeah, I think he'll go on to do very well for them, but I doubt he'll ever quite live up to the price tag. That money could have been better spent on a few other players to strengthen the overall squad, as you said.
Ginger Nut, form doesn't extend over years however, it sooner or later becomes a player's class.
At the moment, Torres hasn't done anything consistently for a long while, neither at Chelsea, at Liverpool, nor for Spain.
Suarez movement and vision is a world apart from what we got from Torres over the last 18 months. Torres just didn't seem to be putting much effort into his game, I thought going to a new club would reinvigorate Torres but that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment.
He is a class act and all it takes is a few goals and he will be firing on all cylinders.