Is the UK in danger of becoming the most right wing country in Europe?

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  • ohglobbitsohglobbits Posts: 4,480
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    Flibustier wrote: »
    A small, overpopulated island with 2 million unemployed and trillions of pounds in debt does not need more immigrants - that is just a Ponzi scheme solution. What the UK needs is to make sure it can function with the vast population it already has first. Then, when close to everyone has a job and a home and the country is not ...trillions in debt... we can think about the liberal demented wet dream of open borders until the UK in 1000 years time, is just one big suburb of London.
    Your idea of close to everyone getting a job and being able to afford a home is no less of a pipe dream? It's people that have the outdated noton that everyone has a right to a home (garden city thinking) who are threatening the green belt more than the romanians are 6 to a bedsit.
    Rick_Davis wrote: »
    I suggest you bring as many bulgarians and romanians, especially those that have not even shelf-stacking skills into this country, because we need those.
    If they're prepared to do the grubby work the presumably more skilled british worker doesn't want to do then I don't see it as a problem. Economies have been built on unskilled labour.
  • Rick_DavisRick_Davis Posts: 1,104
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    Show me a front bench or shadow front or 3rd party senior that has actually built a damn lego or mecano set, show me one senior political bod, from ANY party that has built anything, show me a single member from any party that has actually had a real job.
  • MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    Rick_Davis wrote: »
    a DPhil is subjective, an oxford thing, prove to your tutors you understand their interpretations.

    Great for the soft sciences.

    This is why we have a political class full of ****ing morons.

    I'm not a politician and I will thank you not to call me a moron. Also there is absolutely no need to swear. Losing your little rag are you? Feeling threatened because someone disagrees? Aw, bless.
    If you could actually read I wrote 'one of the top uni's when I was doing my DPhil'. No wonder the political class is so out of touch when they cannot read a simple statement and all have MBA's which does not imply any form of political knowledge or indeed anything other than how to screw money out of a hedge fund.
  • Rick_DavisRick_Davis Posts: 1,104
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    MC_Satan wrote: »
    I'm not a politician and I will thank you not to call me a moron. Also there is absolutely no need to swear. Losing your little rag are you? Feeling threatened because someone disagrees? Aw, bless.
    If you could actually read I wrote 'one of the top uni's when I was doing my DPhil'. No wonder the political class is so out of touch when they cannot read a simple statement and all have MBA's which does not imply any form of political knowledge or indeed anything other than how to screw money out of a hedge fund.

    no, i just swear, i like to swear, my appologies if it does not suit you.
  • MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    Rick_Davis wrote: »
    no, i just swear, i like to swear, my appologies if it does not suit you.

    Not that it doesn't suit me. I just feel it weakens any point if prefaced by a needless adjective. It's apologies by the way, your top 5 uni obviously wadn't keen on correct spelling.
  • Rick_DavisRick_Davis Posts: 1,104
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    MC_Satan wrote: »
    Not that it doesn't suit me. I just feel it weakens any point if prefaced by a needless adjective. It's apologies by the way, your top 5 uni obviously wadn't keen on correct spelling.

    yeah we concentrated on maths not english, but that is my failure.
  • Rick_DavisRick_Davis Posts: 1,104
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    I am early 40's. My intention has always been to retire at 45. I am 18 months away from selling my businesses and buying houses in countries with favorable climates.
  • MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    Rick_Davis wrote: »
    yeah we concentrated on maths not english, but that is my failure.

    Fair enough, I'm not great at algebra.
  • Rick_DavisRick_Davis Posts: 1,104
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    MC_Satan wrote: »
    Not that it doesn't suit me. I just feel it weakens any point if prefaced by a needless adjective. It's apologies by the way, your top 5 uni obviously wadn't keen on correct spelling.

    wasn't not wadn't :))
  • MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    Rick_Davis wrote: »
    wasn't not wadn't :))

    Fair point well made. Typography errors do happen. This being a common one!
  • Rick_DavisRick_Davis Posts: 1,104
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    MC_Satan wrote: »
    Fair point well made. Typography errors do happen. This being a common one!

    You and i have a different approach to language. I'm happy to overlook minor errors if the meaning is there, if the approach is correct. I'm looking for the overall meaning of a statement, you may be looking for nuance.
  • MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    Rick_Davis wrote: »
    You and i have a different approach to language. I'm happy to overlook minor errors if the meaning is there, if the approach is correct. I'm looking for the overall meaning of a statement, you may be looking for nuance.

    Nuance is important. It allows the reader an insight into the mindset of the author. Without nuance there can be no use for interpretation and thus no opportunity for debate. It results in a language that is ultimately flat and lacking in fluidity. I must admit I found it difficult to write my first couple of scientific essays. Switching to the objective helped but it took a while!
  • Rick_DavisRick_Davis Posts: 1,104
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    MC_Satan wrote: »
    Nuance is important. It allows the reader an insight into the mindset of the author. Without nuance there can be no use for interpretation and thus no opportunity for debate. It results in a language that is ultimately flat and lacking in fluidity. I must admit I found it difficult to write my first couple of scientific essays. Switching to the objective helped but it took a while!

    Nuance is fantastically important, but there is time and place for interpretation and there is time and place for static determination.

    There is no room for interpretation when putting down a scientific paper, its fact, fact fact. you can proffer some interpretation based upon evidence presented but that has to be identified as such.

    The trick to the scientific paper is to always think, and write in the 3rd party.

    Actually scrub that, think in the 3rd party. If you think in 3rd party you will tend to write in the 3rd party,
  • SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    MC_Satan wrote: »
    If so how does this sit within different regions of the UK?

    I have no idea but I have no problem with it.
  • GTR DavoGTR Davo Posts: 4,573
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    Rick_Davis wrote: »
    yeah we concentrated on maths not english, but that is my failure.

    That's not a failure! math is more important and far superior to English! math is everything!!

    On to the op post what's the danger here? I don't see any 'danger' with right wing policies as far as I'm concerned all this PC liberal nonsense we have rammed down our throats on a daily basis couldn't end fast enough.
  • DiligentDanDiligentDan Posts: 320
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    Lee Rigby beheaded on our own streets - oooh lovely, just part of our multicultural enrichment. UKIP is the real danger to our country.
  • rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    No.

    The least liked perhaps
  • Steve_CardanasSteve_Cardanas Posts: 4,188
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    Flibustier wrote: »
    Close this thread and start a duplicate with a poll. The UK is miles away from being anywhere close to right wing. We are light years behind Switzerland, France, Austria, Ukraine etc.. We are a country where tax payers dish out for muslim schools and weirdos like Diane Abbott get airtime non-stop to talk about evil 'whites'..

    diana abbott is a horrible racist
  • clinchclinch Posts: 11,574
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    MC_Satan wrote: »
    If so how does this sit within different regions of the UK?

    Have you not noticed how the National Front is doing just across the Channel?
  • allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    Is the UK in danger of becoming the most right wing country in Europe?

    I doubt it but I'd be delighted if we ditched the scourge that is Socialism.
  • HillmanImpHillmanImp Posts: 2,874
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    What is interesting is the LEFT wing in the USA are more right wing than the Conservative Party and UKIP.

    Whereas the EU is on par with the 1920s Communist party.

    So, I'm guessing political parties can only plot direction from where they are at present.
    Do we want to go Communist then Stay in EU, If we want to go Capitalist try and become a "State" within the USA.
  • Steve_CardanasSteve_Cardanas Posts: 4,188
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    HillmanImp wrote: »
    What is interesting is the LEFT wing in the USA are more right wing than the Conservative Party and UKIP.

    Whereas the EU is on par with the 1920s Communist party.

    So, I'm guessing political parties can only plot direction from where they are at present.
    Do we want to go Communist then Stay in EU, If we want to go Capitalist try and become a "State" within the USA.

    No why to communism
  • paul2307paul2307 Posts: 8,079
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    Since 1997 the British public have had multiculturalism rammed down their throats we have schools where pupils speak dozens of different languages but none of the English , the inability to control our own borders because our foreign rulers say we can't and are unable to deport foreign criminals or terrorists back to their own countries and the Left wonder why the British are a tad peeved :confused:
  • JELLIES0JELLIES0 Posts: 6,709
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    We have become so left wing and PC that rational debate has become very difficult in the areas of immigration, anything to do with rape & sexual assault etc.

    Not one Tory has stood up to support Lord Freud in his perfectly logical stance that severely disabled people are sadly not economically viable as workers for a manufacturing company unless they are subsidised. Any discussion in that area provokes massive faux outrage.

    Similarly any suggestion that a drunken woman who goes to the hotel bedroom of a similarly drunk footballer and has sex may perhaps be a little less than justified in crying rape the next morning is met with gasps of horror from feminist groups and the left in general.

    No we are not in immediate danger of becoming the most right wing country in Europe.
  • RichmondBlueRichmondBlue Posts: 21,279
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    allaorta wrote: »
    Is the UK in danger of becoming the most right wing country in Europe?

    I doubt it but I'd be delighted if we ditched the scourge that is Socialism.

    When did you last come across any examples of Socialism ? The Edward Heath government was probably further to the left of Blair's "New" Labour.

    The "scourge" of Socialism ? I only wish I could find some. :(
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