Any comments I've ever made about PA have been from what I've witnessed during interviews, on his TV show & read in his column, not once have I relied on "a source" to help me form my opinion of him.
As for KP contrary to what you might think I find her equally as sickening as PA but PA amuses me more than her which is why I choose to comment on him. I can't honestly say why the alleged affair between KP & AG didn't ring true to me, just a gut feeling? But as I said earlier I wasn't aware of the affidavit so i guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes out in the wash.
Me neither. There's always the possibility that she told her friend she did have/was going to have a fling with AG but it never actually happened, in which case while her friend is telling the truth as she knows it, it's not based on fact. But, as you say, not knowing what's being claimed in the affidavit, we can only speculate.
Any comments I've ever made about PA have been from what I've witnessed during interviews, on his TV show & read in his column, not once have I relied on "a source" to help me form my opinion of him.
As for KP contrary to what you might think I find her equally as sickening as PA but PA amuses me more than her which is why I choose to comment on him.
I can't honestly say why the alleged affair between KP & AG didn't ring true to me, just a gut feeling? But as I said earlier I wasn't aware of the affidavit so i guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes out in the wash.
It's cited in the court papers, & written about in Now mag :-
"Katie's ex-BFF, model Jamelah Asmar, then made a sworn affidavit (a declaration of facts made under oath) claiming that the glamour model and Andrew did have a 'clandestine romance' behind the backs of Pete and Andrew's wife Polly, 32.
Jamelah added that Katie had 'sex with him at least once and may have slept with him on further occasions'.
Last year, he told Piers Morgan: 'Something big happened, which I won't reveal as I don't want my kids reading it.
'Katie knows 100 per cent the reason I left her and I'm 100 per cent sure that what happened definitely did happen.'
And in explosive court papers seen by Now, he says he's prepared to go public with all the intimate details - and claims he can prove once and for all that his ex lied about the real cause of their split in May 2009.
For a while it seemed the alleged secret would remain just that.
But then Katie, 34, decided to take Pete to court in a legal battle that's set to be one of the biggest - and nastiest - in showbiz.
Now, after being backed into a corner, Peter's coming out fighting.
Not only has Pete made a U-turn by saying that he'll hand over his evidence of the alleged affair, but court papers also shed new light on unsubstantiated allegations that Katie fell pregnant to Andrew - and had an abortion - while still with Pete.
The 17-page dossier will no doubt send shock waves through Katie's camp and could expose some skeletons that she'd rather have kept buried."
It's cited in the court papers, & written about in Now mag :-
Now I'm really confused.
I'm just wondering how PA could have "evidence" of the alleged affair - and what the evidence could actually be?
Because unless he has photographs of it actually happening(:eek:) which seems unlikely - surely it will come down to he said/she said, which isn't actually evidence at all.
At the moment, I'm not convinced that anything happened - although she may well have said she would/wanted to/was thinking about it - but I'm quite open to be convinced otherwise.
Now I'm really confused.
I'm just wondering how PA could have "evidence" of the alleged affair - and what the evidence could actually be?
Because unless he has photographs of it actually happening(:eek:) which seems unlikely - surely it will come down to he said/she said, which isn't actually evidence at all.
At the moment, I'm not convinced that anything happened - although she may well have said she would/wanted to/was thinking about it - but I'm quite open to be convinced otherwise.
I'm a tad confused too.:o
Is this the big secret that Peteybabes was never going to reveal?
Now I'm really confused.
I'm just wondering how PA could have "evidence" of the alleged affair - and what the evidence could actually be?
Because unless he has photographs of it actually happening(:eek:) which seems unlikely - surely it will come down to he said/she said, which isn't actually evidence at all.
At the moment, I'm not convinced that anything happened - although she may well have said she would/wanted to/was thinking about it - but I'm quite open to be convinced otherwise.
Firstly it's NOW magazine so who knows if what they have written is correct and secondly IF KP had an affair she wouldn't want it made public surely.. Also didn't Peter claim he believed KP was THINKING of having an affair with Gould not that she had? I'm sure I read it somewhere.. I know we discussed it at length when the story came out on here..
Now I'm really confused.
I'm just wondering how PA could have "evidence" of the alleged affair - and what the evidence could actually be?
Because unless he has photographs of it actually happening(:eek:) which seems unlikely - surely it will come down to he said/she said, which isn't actually evidence at all.
At the moment, I'm not convinced that anything happened - although she may well have said she would/wanted to/was thinking about it - but I'm quite open to be convinced otherwise.
Text messages? Emails? The voices in his head?
I don't buy this affair. Not because I think KP's not capable of it - she is, imo - and I can buy that KP wanted one, and that she may have fantasised about one, and possibly even fantasised aloud to her friend about one, and possibly deliberately gave PA the impression that she was having one, but actually having one? Nope. And since they're all still friends and work together, it makes it even more unlikely. Also, wasn't PA really paranoid about KP's relationship anyway, and didn't like her spending time with them...?
Firstly it's NOW magazine so who knows if what they have written is correct and secondly IF KP had an affair she wouldn't want it made public surely.. Also didn't Peter claim he believed KP was THINKING of having an affair with Gould not that she had? I'm sure I read it somewhere.. I know we discussed it at length when the story came out on here..
But surely thinking of doing something and actually doing it are very different?
If my OH did a flounce out every time I had a less than wholesome fantasy about a celeb we wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes, but that doesn't mean I would actually do it (chance would be a fine thing:o).
Surely PA's "reason" has to be based on something alot more substantial than just something she was thinking?
Now I'm really confused.
I'm just wondering how PA could have "evidence" of the alleged affair - and what the evidence could actually be?
Because unless he has photographs of it actually happening(:eek:) which seems unlikely - surely it will come down to he said/she said, which isn't actually evidence at all.
At the moment, I'm not convinced that anything happened - although she may well have said she would/wanted to/was thinking about it - but I'm quite open to be convinced otherwise.
I don't know what it could be. And I don't know how you prove the paternity of a baby that was lost. Unless there was no chance of it being PA's?
What puzzles me is why she didn't do these people (JA, Now mag) for slander & libel.
It will be interesting to see it pan out.
AG & wife at KP's house: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inPx44N5TmE
I don't buy this affair. Not because I think KP's not capable of it - she is, imo - and I can buy that KP wanted one, and that she may have fantasised about one, and possibly even fantasised aloud to her friend about one, and possibly deliberately gave PA the impression that she was having one, but actually having one? Nope. And since they're all still friends and work together, it makes it even more unlikely.
Nor do I, but I can't really explain why.
I think KP is absolutely the kind of woman who likes flirting and having men fancy her, and she is more than capable of leading blokes up the garden path, but I honestly don't buy this one.
I was just about to ask what kind of idiot would leave incriminating texts and emails lying around if they were having an affair - but then I remembered the idiot in question is KP so I guess I've answered myself.
Nor do I, but I can't really explain why.
I think KP is absolutely the kind of woman who likes flirting and having men fancy her, and she is more than capable of leading blokes up the garden path, but I honestly don't buy this one.
I was just about to ask what kind of idiot would leave incriminating texts and emails lying around if they were having an affair - but then I remembered the idiot in question is KP so I guess I've answered myself.
I wish they'd all get a bleedin move on with this court case.
I think it is possible that KP was trying to make PA jealous by making more of her relationship with AG than there was... if so that might have backfired.
Then there is the conversation with Mona whatshername... I do believe that occurred so who was KP talking about?
However since KP seems to be addicted to being in lurve and getting married... it obviously wasn't going to last with her and PA anyway... she is more your instant gratification than long term monogamy type of woman.
I don't buy this affair. Not because I think KP's not capable of it - she is, imo - and I can buy that KP wanted one, and that she may have fantasised about one, and possibly even fantasised aloud to her friend about one, and possibly deliberately gave PA the impression that she was having one, but actually having one? Nope. And since they're all still friends and work together, it makes it even more unlikely. Also, wasn't PA really paranoid about KP's relationship anyway, and didn't like her spending time with them...?
This 100% and what I have always thought......I have no difficulty in believing her spewing something as vile just for pure spite.....she had no problems at all speaking to him in the most abhorrent and demeaning way, in fact it comes waaaay too easily for her, I don't think there is a line she won't cross. I also think she said a lot worse to PA about another 'issue' that she boo-hoo'd to Piers Morgan in the interview she gave.
If your own partner told you something like that why would you feel the need to find 'evidence'? IMO it wouldn't matter if it turned out not to be true, the malice in that would be enough to get out.
For all the feigning innocence from her post split, one way or another she played a massive part in him leaving. She set a bomb off weather in actions or words and it has spectacularly blown up in her face, despite the innocent victim she likes to portray.
This 100% and what I have always thought......I have no difficulty in believing her spewing something as vile just for pure spite.....she had no problems at all speaking to him in the most abhorrent and demeaning way, in fact it comes waaaay too easily for her, I don't think there is a line she won't cross. I also think she said a lot worse to PA about another 'issue' that she boo-hoo'd to Piers Morgan in the interview she gave.
If your own partner told you something like that why would you feel the need to find 'evidence'? IMO it wouldn't matter if it turned out not to be true, the malice in that would be enough to get out.
For all the feigning innocence from her post split, one way or another she played a massive part in him leaving. She set a bomb off weather in actions or words and it has spectacularly blown up in her face, despite the innocent victim she likes to portray.
Yup.
I do think it's perfectly plausible that she wanted PA to believe she was having an affair (or maybe contemplating one?) and that he took her at face value.
BUT - if that were the case, how could he have evidence of something that only happened in her head?
Yup.
I do think it's perfectly plausible that she wanted PA to believe she was having an affair (or maybe contemplating one?) and that he took her at face value.
BUT - if that were the case, how could he have evidence of something that only happened in her head?
Here is another idea.. What if someone else was whispering in his ear that his former wife was considering an affair with said man and because of his jealous ...he believed that "trusted" someone
Yup.
I do think it's perfectly plausible that she wanted PA to believe she was having an affair (or maybe contemplating one?) and that he took her at face value.
BUT - if that were the case, how could he have evidence of something that only happened in her head?
Maybe his 'proof' is Jamelah's account as given in the affidavit? As in, up to that point, he suspected it, and then when she came to CAN with her story (which may or not may be true for the reasons given above), that's what he's now seeing as proof ie. her verifying what he suspected (but which really may not be proof at all if it's just Jamelah saying 'this is what KP told me', since KP lies...)
...but then would a judge allow hearsay on its own without concrete proof? Surely not?
Ah I don't know and I'm bored with speculating. Let's hear it from the horses' mouths.
Three things are fairly obvious - Peter had issues with KP being trained by Gould, Peter is jealous of KP when she goes out for drinks with friends, KP got on well with both Andrew and Polly and liked socialising i.e drinking with both. It's not a good combo. He even asked her to change her riding coach and she refused. Perhaps she did want to make Pete a bit jealous so he's fight for her. She was certainly afraid to tell Pete she was socialising with the Goulds so witheld information that they were out together - he in turn thought they were sneaking around behind his back, maybe?. If there was no affair - why didn't they sue? He was looking for a way out and the Goulds were a convenient reason? Oh I'm fed up with the speculation too now, bring on the case.
It's cited in the court papers, & written about in Now mag :-
I'm still doubtful this alleged affair ever happened, we know KP has a vindictive side to her, could it not be possible (knowing how jealous & insecure PA is) that she's been goading him about AG & admitted to an affair that never really happened? Who knows?
For now I think all we can do is speculate till the truth does (hopefully) come out.
With respect I don't believe a word of this, as soon as I see the words "a source says" in any magazine/newspaper article, not just this one it just makes me turn the page, as imo it's usually a load of b*****ks.
^ That's bang on the money re- KP goading PA about a fling. Just the sort of thing she would say to wind him up and of course it backfired spectacularly.
I'm still doubtful this alleged affair ever happened, we know KP has a vindictive side to her, could it not be possible (knowing how jealous & insecure PA is) that she's been goading him about AG & admitted to an affair that never really happened? Who knows?
For now I think all we can do is speculate till the truth does (hopefully) come out.
I can't see anyone admitting to an affair they haven't had just o wind someone up.. Especially knowing he would walk..he said it many times on tv ..
I can't see anyone admitting to an affair they haven't had just o wind someone up.. Especially knowing he would walk..he said it many times on tv ..
Oh I'm not so sure Betty.
I imagine PA would be like a dog with a bone regarding his insecurities & jealousy towards KP & AG & could easily imagine he wasn't for letting this particular bone go, a heated row could have developed all aided with KP goading PA & in a fit of rage after endless accusations she's maybe thought bugger this & said she did have an affair.
People do tend to say a lot of things they would never normally say until they reach that breaking point.
Again all speculation on my part.
^ That's bang on the money re- KP goading PA about a fling. Just the sort of thing she would say to wind him up and of course it backfired spectacularly.
Agree with you and others. I don't believe an affair took place but I can believe she goaded Pete about the fact she might have sh*gged the horse trainer, what a massive c*ck he has, how much better he was in bed etc etc etc. I can even imagine her taunting him about whether the baby was his or not.
I think she thought she had all the power and it was beyond her wildest dreams that Pete would ever be the one to end the relationship but she pushed too far, he snapped and she's lived every day of her life since knowing she lost the best thing she ever had.
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Me neither. There's always the possibility that she told her friend she did have/was going to have a fling with AG but it never actually happened, in which case while her friend is telling the truth as she knows it, it's not based on fact. But, as you say, not knowing what's being claimed in the affidavit, we can only speculate.
It's cited in the court papers, & written about in Now mag :-
Now I'm really confused.
I'm just wondering how PA could have "evidence" of the alleged affair - and what the evidence could actually be?
Because unless he has photographs of it actually happening(:eek:) which seems unlikely - surely it will come down to he said/she said, which isn't actually evidence at all.
At the moment, I'm not convinced that anything happened - although she may well have said she would/wanted to/was thinking about it - but I'm quite open to be convinced otherwise.
I'm a tad confused too.:o
Is this the big secret that Peteybabes was never going to reveal?
Firstly it's NOW magazine so who knows if what they have written is correct and secondly IF KP had an affair she wouldn't want it made public surely.. Also didn't Peter claim he believed KP was THINKING of having an affair with Gould not that she had? I'm sure I read it somewhere.. I know we discussed it at length when the story came out on here..
Text messages? Emails? The voices in his head?
I don't buy this affair. Not because I think KP's not capable of it - she is, imo - and I can buy that KP wanted one, and that she may have fantasised about one, and possibly even fantasised aloud to her friend about one, and possibly deliberately gave PA the impression that she was having one, but actually having one? Nope. And since they're all still friends and work together, it makes it even more unlikely. Also, wasn't PA really paranoid about KP's relationship anyway, and didn't like her spending time with them...?
But surely thinking of doing something and actually doing it are very different?
If my OH did a flounce out every time I had a less than wholesome fantasy about a celeb we wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes, but that doesn't mean I would actually do it (chance would be a fine thing:o).
Surely PA's "reason" has to be based on something alot more substantial than just something she was thinking?
I don't know what it could be. And I don't know how you prove the paternity of a baby that was lost. Unless there was no chance of it being PA's?
What puzzles me is why she didn't do these people (JA, Now mag) for slander & libel.
It will be interesting to see it pan out.
AG & wife at KP's house: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inPx44N5TmE
Nor do I, but I can't really explain why.
I think KP is absolutely the kind of woman who likes flirting and having men fancy her, and she is more than capable of leading blokes up the garden path, but I honestly don't buy this one.
I was just about to ask what kind of idiot would leave incriminating texts and emails lying around if they were having an affair - but then I remembered the idiot in question is KP so I guess I've answered myself.
I wish they'd all get a bleedin move on with this court case.
I'm just hoping all the good stuff (aka the REAL reason) isn't buried in a mound of unintelligible legal waffling.
Then there is the conversation with Mona whatshername... I do believe that occurred so who was KP talking about?
However since KP seems to be addicted to being in lurve and getting married... it obviously wasn't going to last with her and PA anyway... she is more your instant gratification than long term monogamy type of woman.
This 100% and what I have always thought......I have no difficulty in believing her spewing something as vile just for pure spite.....she had no problems at all speaking to him in the most abhorrent and demeaning way, in fact it comes waaaay too easily for her, I don't think there is a line she won't cross. I also think she said a lot worse to PA about another 'issue' that she boo-hoo'd to Piers Morgan in the interview she gave.
If your own partner told you something like that why would you feel the need to find 'evidence'? IMO it wouldn't matter if it turned out not to be true, the malice in that would be enough to get out.
For all the feigning innocence from her post split, one way or another she played a massive part in him leaving. She set a bomb off weather in actions or words and it has spectacularly blown up in her face, despite the innocent victim she likes to portray.
Yup.
I do think it's perfectly plausible that she wanted PA to believe she was having an affair (or maybe contemplating one?) and that he took her at face value.
BUT - if that were the case, how could he have evidence of something that only happened in her head?
Here is another idea.. What if someone else was whispering in his ear that his former wife was considering an affair with said man and because of his jealous ...he believed that "trusted" someone
Maybe his 'proof' is Jamelah's account as given in the affidavit? As in, up to that point, he suspected it, and then when she came to CAN with her story (which may or not may be true for the reasons given above), that's what he's now seeing as proof ie. her verifying what he suspected (but which really may not be proof at all if it's just Jamelah saying 'this is what KP told me', since KP lies...)
...but then would a judge allow hearsay on its own without concrete proof? Surely not?
Ah I don't know and I'm bored with speculating. Let's hear it from the horses' mouths.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1215358/Katie-Price-dressage-coach-Andrew-Gould-cause-split-Peter-Andre.html
What, you think her horses witnessed the affair and will be called to testify? :eek:
Then it will be straight from the horses mouth:D
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For now I think all we can do is speculate till the truth does (hopefully) come out.
With respect I don't believe a word of this, as soon as I see the words "a source says" in any magazine/newspaper article, not just this one it just makes me turn the page, as imo it's usually a load of b*****ks.
I can't see anyone admitting to an affair they haven't had just o wind someone up.. Especially knowing he would walk..he said it many times on tv ..
Oh I'm not so sure Betty.
I imagine PA would be like a dog with a bone regarding his insecurities & jealousy towards KP & AG & could easily imagine he wasn't for letting this particular bone go, a heated row could have developed all aided with KP goading PA & in a fit of rage after endless accusations she's maybe thought bugger this & said she did have an affair.
People do tend to say a lot of things they would never normally say until they reach that breaking point.
Again all speculation on my part.
Agree with you and others. I don't believe an affair took place but I can believe she goaded Pete about the fact she might have sh*gged the horse trainer, what a massive c*ck he has, how much better he was in bed etc etc etc. I can even imagine her taunting him about whether the baby was his or not.
I think she thought she had all the power and it was beyond her wildest dreams that Pete would ever be the one to end the relationship but she pushed too far, he snapped and she's lived every day of her life since knowing she lost the best thing she ever had.
All IMO obviously