It's very easy to mock the reaction of some media when there's a flurry of snow in the south east. But yesterday was pretty treacherous. I would have thought taking calls rom drivers would be exactly the thing to do at 3am.
What would you have put on air instead?
I might suggest that ANYthing would be more interesting than endless "what time did you set off / is it snowing now/ have you seen a gritter?". I'm not saying dont cover it but LBC goes well over the top with snow patrol, even when the problem is fairly localised.
I might suggest that ANYthing would be more interesting than endless "what time did you set off / is it snowing now/ have you seen a gritter?". I'm not saying dont cover it but LBC goes well over the top with snow patrol, even when the problem is fairly localised.
Maybe so. But last night was one of the rare occasions when the conditions in the south of England were genuinely serious and newsworthy.
Nick Ferrari comes in for a lot of stick but listening to him interview the woman whose child was abused by her husband this morning, he asked every single question that came into my own head as the interview progressed. By the end of the call there was no more that I wanted, or perhaps more importantly needed to know.
That's one sign of a really good interviewer isn't it?
That's a tad unfair. Even though he's only worked for LBC, he's one of the most respected broadcasters in radio and is often cited by others as a favourite and even an inspiration. He's also a classic example of starting by answering the phones and working up though production to presenting. And I don't think LBC take opinions expressed on here that seriously - if at all!
Morning all.
I had never heard of Clive Bull or any other LBC presetner before starting to listen to LBC. I knew who Julia was but she wasn't on LBC when I first started to listen.
As a comeback it wasn't exactly explosive. I think following the new Iain Dale's Slow Lane Drive Time with Clive 'Laid Back' Bull adds up to too many hours of the same broadcasting tone.
Well I did find it quite amusing that Iain started off with a more "jazzed up" voice/style intially in yesterdays programme, I don't know if the introduction at the top of the hour at 4pm was pre recorded or not but most people seem to like Iain's natural soothing tone and for the political aspects he brings with him and I think he should keep it that way. He did kind of go back to his nartural way after not to long too.
Maybe because he's been there for decades like part of the furniture. I suppose the management think we'll be brainwashed into believing it if they repeat it enough times. It's another example of Global management thinking its listeners are morons. The reality is that CB does his job ok but comes across as a bland, innocuous individual who sits on the fence and seems scared to ever reveal anything about his private life. Nothing makes me want to tune into him at all these days.
I generally agree. I do think that forums like this are read in general by those being discussed about and we do see some of the presenters posting on here or even mentioning DS too so I do think that it might be becuase a lot of the regular posters have called CB a legend is why LBC have been ramming it down our throats ever since his Sunday night comeback.
I sense that CB is only available on a "fragile basis" like. I mean he left suddenly, took a lot of time out and then only came back for a sunday night slot and now is doing just 2 hours per show where everyone does 3 pretty much, though I'm not sure on Steve Allen.
I had never heard of Clive Bull or any other LBC presetner before starting to listen to LBC. I knew who Julia was but she wasn't on LBC when I first started to listen.
I think Clive is over rated.....
Basing Clive on his current show is a tad unfair.
The man has presented various formats over the years due to management and ownership changes and is probably the most versatile presenter on the station.
This is the man who can switch from a magazine format, to David Lloyd's CLBC pub ammo format and newstalk and able to get the best out of his callers when he was on the late night show. His Rajar alone when on that show is enough to call him the "late night legend" Something that Anthony Davis is still attempting to fill Clive's shoes even today.
Lets not forget that Clive also read news bulletins for IRN, this is for younger listeners who may not be aware of the station's history that LBC and Independent Radio News had a close relationship in the 70s and 80s and the likes of Clive and Steve Allen would also read national news bulletins across ILR.
Blame Chris lowry Whatever his name is? He was the one who complained about the fun at lbc.Anyone remember him doing the weather reports during james whale drive, boring old sod where his lowry now ???
Blame Chris lowry Whatever his name is? He was the one who complained about the fun at lbc.Anyone remember him doing the weather reports during james whale drive, boring old sod where his lowry now ???
I like to know things about a presenter as I'd like to know what qualifies their views and colours their presenting. I like to know what experience they have in the subject they're attempting to host a discussion on, particularly if they are driving an 'anti-' position. And, if they don't have personal experience, how are they informed on the subject and are they informed at all.
James O'Brian spends hours on end campaigning against UKIP. I think he's an ex-public school Lib Dem supporter and advocate for mass immigration..
So do I except when it comes to JOB and his constant 'family man' and 'father was a fleet St hack' averismns.
Topgun001 :- JOB is a self confessed leftie socialist. Personally I think he has no idea about the real world. This morning he was going on about the homeless being out in the cold weather as if he had only just noticed for the first time what a terrible problem it was.
I can remember the problem of homelessness appearing on the London streets way back in the early nineties as it has been ever since. Probably before that too. Like most people I had done all the soul searching and being angry since discovering what a complex problem it was long,long ago.
However, he is a seasoned broadcaster and I think maybe he used the show as a vehicle for his anti coalition arguements. References to public utilities being privatised and not sharing the profits for instance. Quite a good show if you want to take a stance from that point of view in fact. I thought it was a little transparent myself.
Blame Chris lowry Whatever his name is? He was the one who complained about the fun at lbc.Anyone remember him doing the weather reports during james whale drive, boring old sod where his lowry now ???
I remember him as being full of fun during Clive Bull's late night shows ..... in the good old days.
James O'Brian spends hours on end campaigning against UKIP.
There's lots of pro-UKIP coverage elsewhere on the station. For a party with no MPs in Parliament and only a few representatives in the House of Lords and maybe a dozen councillors in local government across the whole of the country. And yet UKIP gets a disproportionate amount of coverage on the station. Yet you're complaining because a single presenter criticises UKIP? Or is it a case of any criticism is too much?
Are you one of the UKIP supporters who think they're denied a 'voice' or something?
I think he's an ex-public school Lib Dem supporter
You "think"? It's a running topic on here how much he mentions his independent school background and you only have to listen to his show twice to understand he has liberal politics - in stark contrast with nearly all the other presenters on the station. Nice powers of deduction!
Out of curiosity, is it OK for presenters like Nick Ferrari, Clive Bull, Ian Payne, James Max &c to go independent schools? Or is it only wrong of O'Brien because he has left of centre politics?
and advocate for mass immigration..
Because he criticises UKIP? I can think of a dozen reasons to criticise UKIP without even mentioning their immigration policy.
I think maybe he used the show as a vehicle for his anti coalition arguements. References to public utilities being privatised and not sharing the profits for instance.
You could argue this for all the presenters with their politics. It's not exactly difficult to see how right wing nearly all the other presenters are. Attacking benefits, the NHS, public sector workers - tuning into LBC is like groundhog day.
I don't get this forum, you'd think that O'Brien was the only person who either talked about or expressed political opinions on LBC. Are his left of centre views that much of a problem for people on here, especially in context of the over-riding politics of the rest of the station?
Blame Chris lowry Whatever his name is? He was the one who complained about the fun at lbc.Anyone remember him doing the weather reports during james whale drive, boring old sod where his lowry now ???
Think you will find its Mr Park/JR that stopped the fun, pretty soon after global took over out went Iain Lee and Clive returned to News talk and Park. In fact turning LBC back to news was one of the first things Global did way before extending the Heart brand.
I wonder what James Whale will do now. I like Iain Dale, but I think he was better suited to evenings, I have stopped listening on drive now as it's too boring.
I wonder what James Whale will do now. I like Iain Dale, but I think he was better suited to evenings, I have stopped listening on drive now as it's too boring.
You could argue this for all the presenters with their politics. It's not exactly difficult to see how right wing nearly all the other presenters are. Attacking benefits, the NHS, public sector workers - tuning into LBC is like groundhog day.
I don't get this forum, you'd think that O'Brien was the only person who either talked about or expressed political opinions on LBC. Are his left of centre views that much of a problem for people on here, especially in context of the over-riding politics of the rest of the station?
Are you suggesting that JO'B is criticised for being left wing when others are not for being right wing?
Have you not noticed all the criticism of NF and JM on here for their right wing views?
IMO this right/left wing thing is boring. I'd prefer presenters stick to discussing the facts and remain impartial.
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I do, but I rarely get a chance to hear it. I only get to hear daytime LBC half the week. In fact, I'm about to pull the plug in a few minutes.
I think we are both getting ourselves confused. Go back to sleep (if you can!!!!!).
(Sorry folks an 'in joke' from another thread)
I might suggest that ANYthing would be more interesting than endless "what time did you set off / is it snowing now/ have you seen a gritter?". I'm not saying dont cover it but LBC goes well over the top with snow patrol, even when the problem is fairly localised.
Maybe so. But last night was one of the rare occasions when the conditions in the south of England were genuinely serious and newsworthy.
That's one sign of a really good interviewer isn't it?
I had never heard of Clive Bull or any other LBC presetner before starting to listen to LBC. I knew who Julia was but she wasn't on LBC when I first started to listen.
I think Clive is over rated.....
Well I did find it quite amusing that Iain started off with a more "jazzed up" voice/style intially in yesterdays programme, I don't know if the introduction at the top of the hour at 4pm was pre recorded or not but most people seem to like Iain's natural soothing tone and for the political aspects he brings with him and I think he should keep it that way. He did kind of go back to his nartural way after not to long too.
I generally agree. I do think that forums like this are read in general by those being discussed about and we do see some of the presenters posting on here or even mentioning DS too so I do think that it might be becuase a lot of the regular posters have called CB a legend is why LBC have been ramming it down our throats ever since his Sunday night comeback.
I sense that CB is only available on a "fragile basis" like. I mean he left suddenly, took a lot of time out and then only came back for a sunday night slot and now is doing just 2 hours per show where everyone does 3 pretty much, though I'm not sure on Steve Allen.
Basing Clive on his current show is a tad unfair.
The man has presented various formats over the years due to management and ownership changes and is probably the most versatile presenter on the station.
This is the man who can switch from a magazine format, to David Lloyd's CLBC pub ammo format and newstalk and able to get the best out of his callers when he was on the late night show. His Rajar alone when on that show is enough to call him the "late night legend" Something that Anthony Davis is still attempting to fill Clive's shoes even today.
Lets not forget that Clive also read news bulletins for IRN, this is for younger listeners who may not be aware of the station's history that LBC and Independent Radio News had a close relationship in the 70s and 80s and the likes of Clive and Steve Allen would also read national news bulletins across ILR.
Production Manager for LBC.
So do I except when it comes to JOB and his constant 'family man' and 'father was a fleet St hack' averismns.
Topgun001 :- JOB is a self confessed leftie socialist. Personally I think he has no idea about the real world. This morning he was going on about the homeless being out in the cold weather as if he had only just noticed for the first time what a terrible problem it was.
I can remember the problem of homelessness appearing on the London streets way back in the early nineties as it has been ever since. Probably before that too. Like most people I had done all the soul searching and being angry since discovering what a complex problem it was long,long ago.
However, he is a seasoned broadcaster and I think maybe he used the show as a vehicle for his anti coalition arguements. References to public utilities being privatised and not sharing the profits for instance. Quite a good show if you want to take a stance from that point of view in fact. I thought it was a little transparent myself.
I remember him as being full of fun during Clive Bull's late night shows ..... in the good old days.
And Mr Lowrie's weather forcasts were spot on - too bad he's not doing that now.
Yes, the Turning the Tables quiz were great.
It was a shame that the old 1152 Clive Bull format didn't simply carry on when Chrysalis moved LBC back to FM. It was the best talk show of it's kind.
Steve Allen has on text and tweet nothing mentioning call
Ian Dale jingles have changed with different back ground music.
There's lots of pro-UKIP coverage elsewhere on the station. For a party with no MPs in Parliament and only a few representatives in the House of Lords and maybe a dozen councillors in local government across the whole of the country. And yet UKIP gets a disproportionate amount of coverage on the station. Yet you're complaining because a single presenter criticises UKIP? Or is it a case of any criticism is too much?
Are you one of the UKIP supporters who think they're denied a 'voice' or something?
You "think"? It's a running topic on here how much he mentions his independent school background and you only have to listen to his show twice to understand he has liberal politics - in stark contrast with nearly all the other presenters on the station. Nice powers of deduction!
Out of curiosity, is it OK for presenters like Nick Ferrari, Clive Bull, Ian Payne, James Max &c to go independent schools? Or is it only wrong of O'Brien because he has left of centre politics?
Because he criticises UKIP? I can think of a dozen reasons to criticise UKIP without even mentioning their immigration policy.
You could argue this for all the presenters with their politics. It's not exactly difficult to see how right wing nearly all the other presenters are. Attacking benefits, the NHS, public sector workers - tuning into LBC is like groundhog day.
I don't get this forum, you'd think that O'Brien was the only person who either talked about or expressed political opinions on LBC. Are his left of centre views that much of a problem for people on here, especially in context of the over-riding politics of the rest of the station?
Think you will find its Mr Park/JR that stopped the fun, pretty soon after global took over out went Iain Lee and Clive returned to News talk and Park. In fact turning LBC back to news was one of the first things Global did way before extending the Heart brand.
You haven't given it much of a chance, have you?
It's too serious and political. It just doesn't suit drive, and is no way as good as James Whale was.
Welcome to the new LBC - this is what they are trying to achieve.
Are you suggesting that JO'B is criticised for being left wing when others are not for being right wing?
Have you not noticed all the criticism of NF and JM on here for their right wing views?
IMO this right/left wing thing is boring. I'd prefer presenters stick to discussing the facts and remain impartial.
Problem is then you get the ridiculousness of 5 Live.
They need personality, they also need to be able to 'incite' listeners to ring in, generally having a left or right wing bias helps this.