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Surely a united Ireland now makes sense?
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This ridiculous NI and Ireland situation surely now must be addressed and Ireland united as one country?
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But do they want to be united?
Makes about as much sense as all the countries of the British isles uniting together as one country.
Look, the NI people (nationalists included) want to remain in the UK for economic reasons most of all (NHS, Welfare etc). The ROI people want NI to remain in the UK for economic reasons (those reasons being that they really really don't want to have to pay an extra £10 billion a year to support us).
So what is the problem? There is no "situation". The current situation works for everyone.
Not familiar with abortion laws in Northern Ireland?
Did NI adopt the 1967 abortion act while I wasn't looking?
Personally I would rather see an improvement in relations with protestant and catholics. Currently 95% of our schools segregated (protestants and catholics going to different schools) and only 10% of marriages are mixed. There are more peacewalls now in place in Belfast than there were in 1998, when the good Friday agreement was signed.
For a western democracy those statistics are shocking and before any constitutional referendum takes place I would like to see an end to the division and sectarian nature of this country. If its a divided sectarian society in the UK, it will still be a divided sectarian society in a united Ireland, what difference does it make and why do our selfish politicians choose to ignore this?
Some communities here still deeply hate other communities. There may not be much violence any more, but there is still resentment and hatred bubbling beneath the surface.
Economically the Republic is in the crapper, and a united Ireland would make things worse.
I can only imagine what the people of NI would say when the idea of Dublin being their capital comes up. ;-)
I meant the Savita Halappanavar case, rather than anything wider. NI law gives permission where a woman's life is in serious danger, whereas Savita was denied an abortion of an unviable foetus because it had a heartbeat. This led to a new act being published and passed in ROI but already there have been cases of women in serious danger being turned down under it. Around 300 abortions were carried out in NI last year until the "serious risk to the mother" criteria.
I agree that it is hardly any better, but I'd rather seek an emergency termination to save my own life in NI than ROI.
Time to say, "Enough is enough".
You can't do that, as the ROI wouldn't be able to sponge off the EU any more and would actually have to pay in as much as it receives, unlike the UK (we must have suckers printed on our foreheads) and Germany.
Which begs the question, why is the UK in the EU when in general it gets shafted royally.
Sorry Northern Ireland doesn't want to conform or the old dinosaurs that are in Stormont don't? I think you'll find plenty of the NI people want equal rights for same sex couples
So you want to start all this nonsense again, I don't know how old you but if you have lived through the 70's and 80's why would you want to drag all this up again.
You want bombings to start again and people killed, just leave it alone as it is and stop meddling.
Indeed. Plenty of people here are pro equal rights. It's just the idiots in Stormont who aren't and people keep voting for them because they're scared that if they don't then either Sinn Fein will end up with a majority or Sinn Fein will end up with too few supporters depending on what "side" you're on.
I'd rather this petty tribal politics was abandoned, but it's never realistically going to happen.
No. And that's that tbh.
Job done.
A comprehensive poll was taken during the height of the Belfast City Hall flag protests.
Despite a lot of disruption caused by loyalists blocking arterial routes in and around Belfast at that time the majority of Catholics wanted to remain in the UK.
An overall majority of three to one across the population as a whole if I remember right.
Those who identify as Catholic by upbringing will outnumber Protestants by 2016/2017.
If you think they are going to turn about face and declare a wish for a united Ireland you need to have a word with yourself!
Yep. Nothing more to be said really.