I think that is shameful. First you have the issue of vote tampering but most importantly they seem to have forgotten that it is a "song" contest. Vote for the song, not your political ally. I think the EBU should throw them out of the competition for 5 years for this.
the wording used by this "official" is what's going wrong.
Russia could easily setup its own contest for it and its little mates why don't they?
As posted yesterday it and Azerbaijan need to be poked a little on Human Rights or the EBU setup a code of conduct countries taking part need to agree, Namely human rights watch how many leave
How odd - don't tell me someone has been trying to rig the Azeri vote in jest (to counteract their rumoured attempts to do this to other countries).
Given that the jury gave Russia 10pts its hard to see how they couldn't have got anything at all - would have had to be a very odd televote as there are many ethnic Russians there.
Or alternatively the Azeri jury has been telling porkies - expect them to receive police questioning soon!
PS Says a lot about the country that the President thinks who his country votes for in Eurovision is a matter for debate.
the wording used by this "official" is what's going wrong.
Russia could easily setup its own contest for it and its little mates why don't they?
As posted yesterday it and Azerbaijan need to be poked a little on Human Rights or the EBU setup a code of conduct countries taking part need to agree, Namely human rights watch how many leave
Russia or the then soviet union did create The Intervision Song Contest, in the cold war Topol.
EBU need to stamp out regularities in voting procedures, states who flout basic human rights and undermine modern open democracy.
It does not surprise me that Russia and Azerbaijan have been implicated once more. How on earth did Russia win the right to host the world cup?
This story highlights two problems with Eurovision:
1. The voting system is as corrupt as they come and
2. Why are these countries even in the "contest"?
I know they are EBU members, but the EBU, like UEFA, seems to accept anyone that will pay, regardless of their geographic location or cultural/political background. The current situation was one waiting to happen. It's time to either ditch the whole thing (the concept is well past it's sell by date anyway) or go back to genuine European countries only.
This story highlights two problems with Eurovision:
1. The voting system is as corrupt as they come and
2. Why are these countries even in the "contest"?
I know they are EBU members, but the EBU, like UEFA, seems to accept anyone that will pay, regardless of their geographic location or cultural/political background. The current situation was one waiting to happen. It's time to either ditch the whole thing (the concept is well past it's sell by date anyway) or go back to genuine European countries only.
You fail again, the show is not past its sell by date nearly 8 million watched on saturday. Russia and Azerbaijan are in Europe in the European council, and any way you just have to be in the European broadcasting area or the European council:rolleyes:,
This story highlights only 1 thing and that's that Azerbaijan are a corrupt nation and for that reason alone they should be kicked out the EBU and banned for life, but it will never happen.
Given the statement released by the EBU, I get the impression they're quickly losing patience with Azerbaijan. I wouldn't be surprised if there were consequences. And I don't think it'll be a fine this time around.
Very suspicious voting in certain places for Russia & Ukraine too.
the scary thing is they truly don't see how bad and mad this looks.
maybe the deeper question is why this constant need to show Russia how much everyone loves them..this contest was fine without all these in for decades
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Russia could easily setup its own contest for it and its little mates why don't they?
As posted yesterday it and Azerbaijan need to be poked a little on Human Rights or the EBU setup a code of conduct countries taking part need to agree, Namely human rights watch how many leave
Given that the jury gave Russia 10pts its hard to see how they couldn't have got anything at all - would have had to be a very odd televote as there are many ethnic Russians there.
Or alternatively the Azeri jury has been telling porkies - expect them to receive police questioning soon!
PS Says a lot about the country that the President thinks who his country votes for in Eurovision is a matter for debate.
What a shock.
The numbers seem very low dont they?
(No idea what it is like ex here in Norway, but less than 10000 for UKR sounds small? Or?)
Maybe they got their SIM cards mixed up and accidentally used their "foreign" cards to vote for Russia instead of their "home" cards?
Russia or the then soviet union did create The Intervision Song Contest, in the cold war Topol.
EBU need to stamp out regularities in voting procedures, states who flout basic human rights and undermine modern open democracy.
It does not surprise me that Russia and Azerbaijan have been implicated once more. How on earth did Russia win the right to host the world cup?
1. The voting system is as corrupt as they come and
2. Why are these countries even in the "contest"?
I know they are EBU members, but the EBU, like UEFA, seems to accept anyone that will pay, regardless of their geographic location or cultural/political background. The current situation was one waiting to happen. It's time to either ditch the whole thing (the concept is well past it's sell by date anyway) or go back to genuine European countries only.
You fail again, the show is not past its sell by date nearly 8 million watched on saturday. Russia and Azerbaijan are in Europe in the European council, and any way you just have to be in the European broadcasting area or the European council:rolleyes:,
This story highlights only 1 thing and that's that Azerbaijan are a corrupt nation and for that reason alone they should be kicked out the EBU and banned for life, but it will never happen.
They wouldn't dare not after the scandal last time over people voting for Armenia.
Very suspicious voting in certain places for Russia & Ukraine too.
the scary thing is they truly don't see how bad and mad this looks.
maybe the deeper question is why this constant need to show Russia how much everyone loves them..this contest was fine without all these in for decades