Gun happy US cops kill homeless man
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A homeless man living rough in the US is gunned down by Police.
Not only do they open fire on him they continue shooting him and then set a dog onto him.
Then they cough the dead man.
His crime
Sleeping rough on government land.
Graphic Video be warned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EduzwLhndIM
Not only do they open fire on him they continue shooting him and then set a dog onto him.
Then they cough the dead man.
His crime
Sleeping rough on government land.
http://krqe.com/2014/03/21/apd-officer-involved-shooting-was-justified/ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) – Critics of the Albuquerque Police Department are raising serious questions about the fatal shooting of a homeless camper in the foothills, one even calling it murder. Meanwhile, the department says the shooting was justified.
In the department’s first news conference since the shooting took place, APD did something they normally don’t do, releasing the entire video of the incident.
Police say 38-year-old James M. Boyd is the man who was killed in the shooting last Sunday. So far, they’ve been unable to contact any of Boyd’s family members.
New Albuquerque Police chief Gorden Eden said Friday the video shows that the latest officer involved shooting is justified.
Boyd was arguing with police for more three hours last Sunday in the foothills after officers went to talk to him about illegally camping in open space.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EduzwLhndIM
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Actually, it's better to use a knife if you're skilled enough to throw it accurately. Your reaction will be quicker than a gunman, who needs slightly more time to make an aim.
One documentary I watched a couple of years ago put this theory to five different scenarios, and the knife man won every time. He even managed to throw his knife at a gunman's gun hand, which had him him dropping the gun. We cringed when he screamed his head off while clutching his gun hand with the knife sticking out of it.
There's the Tueller Drill (a.k.a the 21' rule) but that only comes into play if the gunman has his weapon holstered.
If he died I suggest it was probably due to his being in bad shape already.
The bean bags are non-lethal, but the rounds from that AR-15 aren't.
That's true.
And thanks for that name. I thought it might be 'Trueheart Tactic' and thought "Nah".
Strange how the Police never released that video of the threats he was making!
Even still he offered no real threat and had turned his back to the police when they opened fire.
No justification for his murder at all.
But it wouldn't be surprising if they Cuffed him after dearth
I'm pretty sure that rule also comes into play if the officer has his gun out due to the man with the knife being able to traverse the distance quick enough that if he was shot his momentum would carry him forward and he could still stab the cop.
TBH, a lot of that stuff is a little bit dubious because it usually relies on the idea of somebody with a knife attacking a person who's unaware or unprepared.
There's certainly a lot of truth to it in that sort of situation but it's not the sort of thing you'd want to try against a person who's already got a gun aimed at you.
And then there's the fact that a 5.56mm bullet is carrying upwards of 1,300 ft/lbs of energy when it hits you.
That's enough energy to move a 1,300lb object 1ft, or move a 200lb object (like a person) roughly 6ft... in theory.
A moving person will be carrying momentum of their own but, even so, a 5.56mm bullet (especially one of the expanding, hollow-point type favoured by police forces) is likely to impart enough energy to slow you right down.
But this is in America. Their laws are different to ours so it is difficult to answer your question.
Maybe people just don't care enough to be dragged into a moral argument based on the technical minutiae, but given the bigger picture, are unsurprised that events turned out the way they did.
The neverending story that is the Mark Duggan thread might be for you if you want to argue the toss over every last detail in cases like these? Fill yer boots.
I think people are just apathetic towards this stuff. There was a guy in a US court the other day who was on trial for murder and made a lunge towards the witnesses, so the presiding US marshal in the room pulled his gun out and blasted him. Dead. Maybe other means could have been employed to restrain him, but hey ho, that's the way it goes.