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Is North East Wales more English than Welsh?
hmeister
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I lived in Wrexham, North Wales for 18 years and noticed a lot of people seem to be English like me. North East Wales is right next to Cheshire, Shropshire and parts of The Wirral plus is only a 50 minute drive to Liverpool.
A lot of people around Wrexham and Flintshire seem to have slightly scouse accents too.
A lot of people around Wrexham and Flintshire seem to have slightly scouse accents too.
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That's true of any border area anywhere, they become a melting pot.
The national languages of Switzerland are German, French and Italian (and Romansch) because they border all three.
Belgium has French, Dutch and German as official languages.
In Wrexham I was suprised to hear a few people speaking Welsh - I'd say Wrexham is quite 'Welsh' in character despite it's very close proximity to the border, as opposed to Deeside.
but the areas you mention aren't melting pots. In Switzerland the German, French and Italian speakers don't all live mixed together; the country is divided into very separate regions; German-speaking, French-speaking etc. You literally go from one village which is French speaking then you've entered the German region where the next village won't have French speakers at all. Belgium is the same...a language border cuts the country in half: either side of it is totally one language or the other (with only a bit of mixing around Brussels). I'm surprised when crossing borders in Europe that the switch from one language to another is so sudden and so total in most cases.
I've camped at Plassey campsite in Wrexham a couple of times, thought it was a nice place.
I mean you can find differing languages depending on the border locality where they blend. And I'll bet they have local "peculiarities" that don't fit the national norm.
To a South Walian, or to me anyway, the North Walian accent is hard and guttural.
I used to think it was close to Scouse but it's just as likely that Scouse is derivative of North Walian.
When I was a teenager in Swansea, and in town on a Saturday night, I could identify accents from as nearby as Neath, Llanelli, Merthyr and Carmarthen.
Cardiff was positively bloody foreign.
However, North wrexham and south wrexham are just full on welsh. A different accent for each village even if the next village is a ten minute walk away.
The rhos accent is the worst accent I've ever heard spoken.
Are you a "local"?
Ha, I've camped there too
It's a small old world!
Indeed! We may even have shared a vino or two!
No. I'm from just over the border in Cheshire. Live on the otherside of Canada now.
Damn social migrants taking Welsh jobs.
A good portion of people have welsh names, but when i worked in the area i hardly heard welsh spoken there. If i did it was mostly the older generation or people who had moved there to live.
The street names use olde welsh spelling (stryt instead of stryd)
however if you ask for gwersyllt or caergwrle you'd get no respone. you have to ask for gwer silt or cai girlie, which is how non welsh speakers would pronounce them.
They are people who love and are proud of being welsh, and by my experience are very friendly.
I wouldn't say scouse, I'd say sound more like Polish...
I've lived in Wrexham all my life (51 yrs) and I agree with you, it is a dump, Eagles Meadow has killed the town.
All thanks to the crap council.... >:(