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Survey on Pub Closures

Hello,
I'd be grateful if anyone could take the time to do this survey on pub closures for my university project.
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Thank you. :)
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    shhhhhshhhhh Posts: 3,752
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    Its the smoking ban thats closed them.
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    DisnaeDisnae Posts: 9,479
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    shhhhh wrote: »
    Its the smoking ban thats closed them.
    I thinks that's been a big factor.
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    muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    Disnae wrote: »
    I thinks that's been a big factor.
    Not the only one though, although smokers (and I am one) always say that.

    I'd say recession has a big part to play in the fact that pubs are closing around the country on a daily basis. A lot of the pubs where I live cater well for smokers - heated gardens with fancy lighting and covered up for the weather (although technically they shouldn't be smoking there as they are covered up, it's been designed with smokers in mind, a double-edged sword really :D).

    For me, pubs stopped being pubs when they became focused around TVs and not conversation and socialising.
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    calico_piecalico_pie Posts: 10,060
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    Its not the smoking ban.

    There was an upward trend in pub closures before the smoking ban which has only continued.

    The main reason pubs are closing is because they often just aren't very good pubs and haven't adapted to changing trends. i.e. pubs no longer get by just by being crappy pubs to go for a drink and a smoke.

    Pubs that aren't closing are ones that have smartened themselves up a bit and make an effort to do some decent food.
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    benjaminibenjamini Posts: 32,066
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    Poor service
    Cheap alcohol from supermarkets
    No smoking.
    Drink driving.
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    muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    OP I completed your survey - felt I should seeing as I participated on the tread :)
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    artnadaartnada Posts: 10,113
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    We have a lot of pubs closing here in Gloucestershire. Why?

    Most seem to be owned by "Enterprise Inns", whose one goal "appears to be" to run the pub down, close it, flog it to a developer and move on to the next one.

    Every pub that has closed, the landlords have all said the same thing. It's too expensive to run them, and boy do they charge their landlords some money!
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    muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    Here in Bath we've had members of the public gather together twice now to buy the pubs they love which are closing down.

    Never quite understood this, if these pubs are failing, why on earth do the customers think they can save them... I wonder what they think they will do differently that will save a failing business and make it a success!
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    toastietoastie Posts: 2,508
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    A few reasons I can think of for closures.

    Overpriced drinks
    Rubbish food
    Poor staff
    Greedy breweries
    Too many pubs with big screens showing sport
    Loud booming music
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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    muggins14 wrote: »
    Here in Bath we've had members of the public gather together twice now to buy the pubs they love which are closing down.

    Never quite understood this, if these pubs are failing, why on earth do the customers think they can save them... I wonder what they think they will do differently that will save a failing business and make it a success!

    Club together, buy the pub make it a free house that way you are not tied to a brewery, because they had all the power over landlords, and charged a fortune for being one of their tenants.
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    muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    tim59 wrote: »
    Club together, buy the pub make it a free house that way you are not tied to a brewery, because they had all the power over landlords, and charged a fortune for being one of their tenants.
    Aaah right, interesting to know - shows how much I know about the ins-and-outs of pub running :)

    I do wish them luck, it's great that they have such enthusiasm and wish to retain their pubs, which are obviously a big part of their community - as they should be :)
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    evil cevil c Posts: 7,833
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    Done.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    Done.
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    Robbie01Robbie01 Posts: 10,434
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    Done.
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    Lil_MLil_M Posts: 2,105
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    Pub Closure- are we sure about that? There is town near me that has more pubs than anywhere else, more alcohol shops than anywhere. There is one long stretch of road that has nothing but pubs and booze shops. Even the town centre is just filled with pubs.
    There is nothing else, not even a butchers or a tesco for that matter. Nothing but booze shops and pubs.
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    indianwellsindianwells Posts: 12,702
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    Greedy breweries
    Smoking ban
    Cheap supermarket alcohol

    Edit; survey done.
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    tiacattiacat Posts: 22,521
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    Like any business a pub has to adapt to what people want, the problem is with many, they have tried to overcome their dingy, sticky dirty premises with rubbish food by going 'gastro' which prices people out when you just want to go somewhere decent for some basic pub grub.

    surly staff, poor toilets, loud music, sky tv, pricey food for what essentially is quite a cheap dish, our dog is never allowed and their opening hours are rubbish at the weekend, surely after a nice long walk at the weekend you might get somewhere at 2 or 3 to find it closed or not serving food. useless.

    I think pubs should start providing community resources, why not hold the mum group in the pub of a morning 9.30 -11 before opening, provide tea, coffee, soft drinks and bacon sarnies for cheap prices, what about providing a resource for the elderly, they are isolated and lonely and the pub is empty, so arrange for meals or wheels (or the local equivalent ) to deliver their meals in the pub as a community resource. Of course, all that has to rely on the pub and staff being pleasant enough to want to be around
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    PrimalIcePrimalIce Posts: 2,897
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    That was the most graphically impressive survey that has ever been spammed on here.

    There wasn't a career option for private sector customer services which is like what half the population do! I bailed out when you started to ask me to write stuff. Otherwise nice survey.
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    tiacattiacat Posts: 22,521
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    PrimalIce wrote: »
    That was the most graphically impressive survey that has ever been spammed on here.

    There wasn't a career option for private sector customer services which is like what half the population do! I bailed out when you started to ask me to write stuff. Otherwise nice survey.

    oh, what do you mean by spammed? its not going to give me virus is it?
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    MaxatoriaMaxatoria Posts: 17,980
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    Around here a lot are being sold off, knocked down and tuned in flats as the pubs quite often need a seriously major refit to come back up to standard which could cost the brewery well 100-200k or more so the accountants look at the ground price and and recommend they just flog it off
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    HarrisonMarksHarrisonMarks Posts: 4,360
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    Done, though I winced at the picture of my age group.
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    tomvoxxtomvoxx Posts: 2,340
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    Done.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 578
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    in the last 5 years the three pubs within 1/4 mile of my house, including next door have all shut down.
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    PrimalIcePrimalIce Posts: 2,897
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    tiacat wrote: »
    oh, what do you mean by spammed? its not going to give me virus is it?

    By spam i mean someone who has signed up for the sole reason to advertise, enlist help or otherwise flog something.

    Nothing to do with viruses.
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    Wallasey SaintWallasey Saint Posts: 7,627
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    toastie wrote: »
    A few reasons I can think of for closures.

    Overpriced drinks
    Rubbish food
    Poor staff
    Greedy breweries
    ]Too many pubs with big screens showing sport
    Loud booming music

    I disagree Pubs that don't show Sport suffer the most, recently one of my local Pubs didn't have a Football game involving a local team [ok Liverpool at Swansea in September] on so the customers left & went to a Pub that did have the game on.

    The Smoking ban for me is a bit of a red herring a lot of Pubs were struggling before then, because times have changed, sadly the local is slowly becoming a thing of the past unless the local serves hot food. people would rather go to a supermarket & buy cheap ale there & drink in there homes, & may go into the Town/City centre for a drink, some Town/Cities are buzzing at Weekends if you know where to go you can have a great time with no trouble.
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