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ganderpoke66ganderpoke66 Posts: 2,128
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Something going on between Toksvig and Susan Calman.

Susan is never off the show this series , a bit of BBC leg upping between those of a sapphic persuasion perchance.

Surely not, what would Barry Took make of it ? :cool:

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    BingethinkBingethink Posts: 4,258
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    Calman's funny. No conspiracy.
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    Bandspread199Bandspread199 Posts: 4,902
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    Calman just got married (to a male!!!) a couple of months ago!

    Jeez! What stone did the OP crawl out from under!

    OP it's called reacting to humour - just because they 'respond' doesn't mean there's a sexual connotation! It can be down to one appreciating the sense of humour of the other!

    Sheesh!:rolleyes:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 446
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    Calman had a civil partnership with her partner of 9 years earlier this year.

    None of which is relevant to The News Quiz.
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    mw963mw963 Posts: 3,082
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    Whilst leaving aside some of the specifics, I personally think the Newsquiz has gone downhill considerably (after a strong recovery initially when Ms Toksvig took over).

    Barry Took was superb as a chairman, the show was funny but without the political drum-banging we hear nowadays, particularly from Jeremy Hardy, whose political leanings are now - frankly - getting boring.

    I used to listen for the comedy; I don't want overt political lessons. So I rarely hear the show now, and often end up turning it off when I do happen on it.

    Maybe I'm just too old for it. I miss Richard Ingrams and Alan Coren too.
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    TUCTUC Posts: 5,105
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    Calman just got married (to a male!!!) a couple of months ago!

    Not to a male actually
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    lundavralundavra Posts: 31,790
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    Whilst leaving aside some of the specifics, I personally think the Newsquiz has gone downhill considerably (after a strong recovery initially when Ms Toksvig took over).

    Barry Took was superb as a chairman, the show was funny but without the political drum-banging we hear nowadays, particularly from Jeremy Hardy, whose political leanings are now - frankly - getting boring.

    I used to listen for the comedy; I don't want overt political lessons. So I rarely hear the show now, and often end up turning it off when I do happen on it.

    Maybe I'm just too old for it. I miss Richard Ingrams and Alan Coren too.

    Agreed, I always used to make a point of listening to the prorgamme, even recording to listen later. Often now I just can't be bothered mainly because of Hardy but others can be as bad.
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    InkblotInkblot Posts: 26,889
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    I like Jeremy Hardy. I think what has happened is that political comedy used to be much more common on radio and TV, and also that "alternative" comedy used to be more alternative. And there was comedy on Radio 1 so there was a natural home for edgier comedians. Nowadays there are occasional TV shows from Stewart Lee but the majority of comedy on radio and TV is small "c" conservative. Hardy is something of a lone voice now so he sounds more extreme on the News Quiz than he did on radio shows 15 or 20 years ago.

    I know someone who wasn't a regular listener but went to a recording of the News Quiz and was impressed with Hardy's performance. That kind of comedy, combining passion, wit and silliness, is rarely heard these days.

    Incidentally there was a good interview with Stewart Lee on Rensonance FM last week. It's available on Soundcloud:

    http://soundcloud.com/resonance-fm/til-debt-do-us-part-the-entire
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    RobinCarmodyRobinCarmody Posts: 3,103
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    Agree with Inkblot here. My theory is that once the Tories were out of power, and petty little Tories (I use the term here as a state of mind, not necessarily an allegiance of support) like Ingrams & Coren had largely disappeared from broadcast comedy shows, a lot of people thought all their battles had been won and dropped their guard - so you got petty little Toryism reinvented in new colours and under new guises, with people like Baron-Cohen and Lucas & Walliams going "let's all laugh at the n*****-loving proles" and being, really, far more dangerously reactionary than any of the old lot had been, because they were taken far more seriously by people who saw themselves as at ease with mass culture. Very much the same as the way rock music became ruling-class music under Blair and therefore became a front for marginalising and freezing out of society the very people (the global proletariat, of whichever ethnic background) without whom it wouldn't have existed in the first place.

    Why does everyone on here who uses the "dude with sunglasses" emoticon have to be a petty, stirring little bigot, btw? And Martin Watkins *would* miss a blatant anti-Semite ...
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    tezenistezenis Posts: 152
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    Agree with Inkblot here. My theory is that once the Tories were out of power, and petty little Tories (I use the term here as a state of mind, not necessarily an allegiance of support) like Ingrams & Coren had largely disappeared from broadcast comedy shows, a lot of people thought all their battles had been won and dropped their guard - so you got petty little Toryism reinvented in new colours and under new guises, with people like Baron-Cohen and Lucas & Walliams going "let's all laugh at the n*****-loving proles" and being, really, far more dangerously reactionary than any of the old lot had been, because they were taken far more seriously by people who saw themselves as at ease with mass culture. Very much the same as the way rock music became ruling-class music under Blair and therefore became a front for marginalising and freezing out of society the very people (the global proletariat, of whichever ethnic background) without whom it wouldn't have existed in the first place.

    Why does everyone on here who uses the "dude with sunglasses" emoticon have to be a petty, stirring little bigot, btw? And Martin Watkins *would* miss a blatant anti-Semite ...

    I don't listen to the show with a political ear, I just love hearing the high, mighty and pompous brought down a peg or two by those who have the ability to do so.

    The News Quiz is a highlights in my listening week, I get the podcast via iTunes.

    Hardy is an absolute master and his rants are one of the joys of the programme.
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    RobinCarmodyRobinCarmody Posts: 3,103
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    Indeed so.

    The idea that only raving far-leftists can love Hardy (or some others like him) is nonsense. Many people who aren't left-wing in any real way think Radio 4 has improved since it let that generation in.

    It works the other way too. I'm a convinced socialist but, believe it or not, I got a lot of pleasure out of Auberon Waugh. Some people are good enough that they transcend political tribalism.
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    ganderpoke66ganderpoke66 Posts: 2,128
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    Calman just got married (to a male!!!) a couple of months ago!

    Jeez! What stone did the OP crawl out from under!

    Sheesh!:rolleyes:

    Dearie me, get your facts right before posting eh ?

    Susan is very funny [ and Scottish, much to Jezza Hardy's Home Counties xenophobic sensibilities ] but I think she got the News Quiz gig because of her friendship with Toksvig, plus it means the much funnier [ also Scottish ] but boringly straight Fred McCauley has been dropped off the guest roster of late.
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    ShrewnShrewn Posts: 6,855
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    Whilst leaving aside some of the specifics, I personally think the Newsquiz has gone downhill considerably (after a strong recovery initially when Ms Toksvig took over).

    Barry Took was superb as a chairman, the show was funny but without the political drum-banging we hear nowadays, particularly from Jeremy Hardy, whose political leanings are now - frankly - getting boring.

    I used to listen for the comedy; I don't want overt political lessons. So I rarely hear the show now, and often end up turning it off when I do happen on it.

    Maybe I'm just too old for it. I miss Richard Ingrams and Alan Coren too.

    I agree with every word Martin
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    mw963mw963 Posts: 3,082
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    Thank you Shrewn.
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    lundavralundavra Posts: 31,790
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    Shrewn wrote: »
    I agree with every word Martin

    Ditto
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    TUCTUC Posts: 5,105
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    Indeed so.

    The idea that only raving far-leftists can love Hardy (or some others like him) is nonsense. Many people who aren't left-wing in any real way think Radio 4 has improved since it let that generation in.

    The problem with Jeremy Hardy is that he is a classic example of a left-winger who has become rich enough to make his own choices and has forgotten that rather less well off people don;t have those options and need the ability to be able to control their own lives through other ways.

    The other week he was arguing against people having the right to choose what energy company to use on the basis that he can't be bothered to do so. Previously he's argued that people shouldn't have the right to choose what hospital to be treated in because he can't be bothered. He's seems quite content to leave the poor at the bottom of the heap just so long as nothing challenges hs 1970s view of socialism.:(
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    Smiley433Smiley433 Posts: 7,902
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    Just five episodes this series - is that typical for a Spring run?
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