Jan is a nightmare. Everyone else in the camp has to tiptoe around her constantly, for fear of upsetting her precious little feelings..................again.
I would just like to say that ive read on the internet that her 4th ish husband left her for a friends of theirs, surely that would make any woman feel inferior. Which usually result in a superiority complex, they over compensate. I also read that it shattered her.
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That was a case of What goes around comes around she'd already done it to someone else
Nobody thinks she is evil. Pathetic, needy, attention-seeking, deluded, annoying, unlikable - yes. Evil - no.
Pathetic - maybe, but in jungle terms not as pathetic as Scott - yet he does not come in for half the amount of stick
Needy - are any of us not? We all need some things.
Attention Seeking - comes with being a Celeb. Not one of them would be there if they werent trying to attract attention to themselves.
Deluded - again maybe, but it's easy to jump to incorrect conclusions when you have no contact with the outside world, especially if you are a little insecure. Insecurity itself is not a terrible thing - its part of how we all are. Not one of us has not felt this at some time or other.
Annoying - I agree. But does this warrant being called passive aggressive? Over the top IMO.
Unlikeable - that is a matter of opinion, and depends if you are the kind of person that thinks words are louder than deeds. I think what you do speaks more highly than what you say, even if you are a grumpy old woman. Jan may be unlikeable, but the respect she has earned by performing well is a pretty fair counterbalance to that, in my opinion.
I still dont think her treatment by people is fair.
The way she has been victimised into constantly doing trial after trial has spoilt the programme as well. It has meant some of the others have not been tested at all; Toby Anstiss was voted off last night because of this, in my opinion. Had the public had a chance to see him do a trial as the had with Dean, he may well have polled more votes.
Pathetic - maybe, but in jungle terms not as pathetic as Scott - yet he does not come in for half the amount of stick
Needy - are any of us not? We all need some things.
Attention Seeking - comes with being a Celeb. Not one of them would be there if they werent trying to attract attention to themselves.
Deluded - again maybe, but it's easy to jump to incorrect conclusions when you have no contact with the outside world, especially if you are a little insecure. Insecurity itself is not a terrible thing - its part of how we all are. Not one of us has not felt this at some time or other.
Annoying - I agree. But does this warrant being called passive aggressive? Over the top IMO.
Unlikeable - that is a matter of opinion, and depends if you are the kind of person that thinks words are louder than deeds. I think what you do speaks more highly than what you say, even if you are a grumpy old woman. Jan may be unlikeable, but the respect she has earned by performing well is a pretty fair counterbalance to that, in my opinion.
I still dont think her treatment by people is fair.
The way she has been victimised into constantly doing trial after trial has spoilt the programme as well. It has meant some of the others have not been tested at all; Toby Anstiss was voted off last night because of this, in my opinion. Had the public had a chance to see him do a trial as the had with Dean, he may well have polled more votes.
I agree with your last paragraph. Jan deserves acknowledgement for how strong she has been through all the trials, and it has been unfair that the public target her every week.
Pathetic - she's not pathetic because she has proved she has strength and courage.
Needy - Jan is only needy when it comes to deflecting conflict or winning an argument. Jan has proved she can cope on her own, but uses the passive persona to get her way (passive aggressive and very good at it)
Attention seeking - part of being a celeb, but there are ways of getting attention. I find moaning and victim syndrome some of the worst traits fro attention seeking (prefer show offs)
Deluded - She has perfected the victim personality...is that deluded or habitual?
Annoying - oh definitely. Jan is a master of passive aggressive behaviour. Only Phina dares to stand up to Jan and she gets seen as aggressive for doing this. The only way to beat a passive / aggressive unscathed is to stay out of their way. Impossible in the jungle.
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Hope she's the first woman to go.
Look on the bright side... at least it's more or less confined to this thread.
I think too many of the public are obssessed with picking people's lives apart and looking at other people's lives totally from the negative.
Maybe if there was a bit more empathy and attempt at understanding in the world, the world woudl be a better place?
As to there being a point, to what to some may seem excessively puerile and or vitriolic verbal nastiness... maybe it's cathartic?
regards
Great post.Thanks SWW (SWW).
Yea, but to have it done to yourself is different. It may have made her realise, what she must have made the other woman feel like when she did it.
I cant understand why people think she's evil. Things likethis happen all the time, who are we to judge about peoples mistakes.
Pathetic - maybe, but in jungle terms not as pathetic as Scott - yet he does not come in for half the amount of stick
Needy - are any of us not? We all need some things.
Attention Seeking - comes with being a Celeb. Not one of them would be there if they werent trying to attract attention to themselves.
Deluded - again maybe, but it's easy to jump to incorrect conclusions when you have no contact with the outside world, especially if you are a little insecure. Insecurity itself is not a terrible thing - its part of how we all are. Not one of us has not felt this at some time or other.
Annoying - I agree. But does this warrant being called passive aggressive? Over the top IMO.
Unlikeable - that is a matter of opinion, and depends if you are the kind of person that thinks words are louder than deeds. I think what you do speaks more highly than what you say, even if you are a grumpy old woman. Jan may be unlikeable, but the respect she has earned by performing well is a pretty fair counterbalance to that, in my opinion.
I still dont think her treatment by people is fair.
The way she has been victimised into constantly doing trial after trial has spoilt the programme as well. It has meant some of the others have not been tested at all; Toby Anstiss was voted off last night because of this, in my opinion. Had the public had a chance to see him do a trial as the had with Dean, he may well have polled more votes.
she had her last good hair day in 1980
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/PusscGalore/JanLeeming1980.jpg
I think it kind of fits in with what Jan is trying to project.
I agree with your last paragraph. Jan deserves acknowledgement for how strong she has been through all the trials, and it has been unfair that the public target her every week.
Pathetic - she's not pathetic because she has proved she has strength and courage.
Needy - Jan is only needy when it comes to deflecting conflict or winning an argument. Jan has proved she can cope on her own, but uses the passive persona to get her way (passive aggressive and very good at it)
Attention seeking - part of being a celeb, but there are ways of getting attention. I find moaning and victim syndrome some of the worst traits fro attention seeking (prefer show offs)
Deluded - She has perfected the victim personality...is that deluded or habitual?
Annoying - oh definitely. Jan is a master of passive aggressive behaviour. Only Phina dares to stand up to Jan and she gets seen as aggressive for doing this. The only way to beat a passive / aggressive unscathed is to stay out of their way. Impossible in the jungle.