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Woman who launched bank note campaign receives rape threats on Twitter

Vodka_DrinkaVodka_Drinka Posts: 28,753
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Caroline Criado-Perez is the woman who successfully campaigned to have Jane Austen put on the new £10 bank notes. In response to this she has received some absolutely vile abuse on Twitter, including threats to rape her. Now as much as a lot of feminists get on my nerves (and I'm a woman), how can making threats to rape someone ever be justified?

Here is the story:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk-news/2013/jul/27/twitter-trolls-threats-bank-notes-austen
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    Scarlett FeverScarlett Fever Posts: 718
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    its mad when you can be locked up (or threatened with) for making a 'joke' about blowing up an airport if its shut (as far as I remember), but if you threaten to rape someone, nothing!
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    Cheetah666Cheetah666 Posts: 16,036
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    Its just the latest example of a particularly modern type of idiot - one who thinks they can post anything they like on twitter with no regard for the normal rules of behaviour. Hopefully these idiots get a knock on the door from the police in the near future.
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    EmmersonneEmmersonne Posts: 4,532
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    That really is disgusting.

    On a side note, I believe the Austen note has been the "reserve" £10 for years, hasn't it? Would have loved to have seen Rosalind Franklin on a note, personally, or Watson and Crick.
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    SegaGamerSegaGamer Posts: 29,074
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    Twitter is literally the worst social network site around. You couldn't go 5 minutes without finding some disgusting comment.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,182
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    SegaGamer wrote: »
    Twitter is literally the worst social network site around. You couldn't go 5 minutes without finding some disgusting comment.

    The same can be said about every social networking site.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,095
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    There seems to be a type of man who cannot stand a woman to have her own view. Bunch of sick bastards.
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    roland ratroland rat Posts: 13,829
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    Emmersonne wrote: »
    That really is disgusting.

    On a side note, I believe the Austen note has been the "reserve" £10 for years, hasn't it? Would have loved to have seen Rosalind Franklin on a note, personally, or Watson and Crick.

    Who exactly is saying this and why, I think they should print the twitter names, on the front page of the sun
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    Vodka_DrinkaVodka_Drinka Posts: 28,753
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    roland rat wrote: »
    Who exactly is saying this and why, I think they should print the twitter names, on the front page of the sun

    She has been tweeting screen caps of the worst offenders. One of these cowards has now deleted his account.
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    Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    oh lets see there will now be calls for twitter to be blocked in the uk too
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    CrazyLoopCrazyLoop Posts: 31,148
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    its mad when you can be locked up (or threatened with) for making a 'joke' about blowing up an airport if its shut (as far as I remember), but if you threaten to rape someone, nothing!
    I remember that, as it was on a show last week...anyway totally ridiculous. Should be all or nothing really...maybe case by case? But something should have been done about this much sooner :rolleyes:
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    CrazyLoopCrazyLoop Posts: 31,148
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »
    oh lets see there will now be calls for twitter to be blocked in the uk too
    Nobody wants that, they just want to be able to report abusive tweets more easily. That's hardly asking for the social network to be blocked is it? :rolleyes:
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    roland ratroland rat Posts: 13,829
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    SegaGamer wrote: »
    Twitter is literally the worst social network site around. You couldn't go 5 minutes without finding some disgusting comment.
    I wonder how close, the gaming network would come, ps3, xbox

    There quite a few nasty messages sent round, even ones saying Im going to rape you, and gamers on the mics are just as bad

    So any new law would have to cover everything, not just the net
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    Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    CrazyLoop wrote: »
    Nobody wants that, they just want to be able to report abusive tweets more easily. That's hardly asking for the social network to be blocked is it? :rolleyes:

    this government likes to go a step further than it really should

    uk still the only western country to imprison people for stuff they write on twitter/facebook isnt it?
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    ElanorElanor Posts: 13,326
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    roland rat wrote: »
    Who exactly is saying this and why, I think they should print the twitter names, on the front page of the sun

    There have been literally hundreds and hundreds of tweets directed at her - far too many for anyone to be able to report each one individually by filling in Twitter's form for each. She had a deluge of at least 50 per hour for more than 24 hours, and they're horrific - violent, aggressive, threatening. Some threaten to find her home address and find her in person.

    It's a similar thing to the comments that Marion Bartoli received after Wimbledon when she was audacious enough to play tennis without looking like a supermodel. Or when Mary Beard dared have an opinion... It's so depressing that some men still seem to live in the stone age.

    THis is the kind of thing that's been posted:

    http://storify.com/bdbdbdbd/people-are-horrible
    https://twitter.com/Perlalaloca/status/361209021765652480/photo/1
    http://iwillnotputupwiththis.blogspot.mx/2013/07/and-they-just-keep-getting-braver.html
    https://twitter.com/EverydaySexism/status/360761240852774912/photo/1
    https://twitter.com/EverydaySexism/status/361053114951950336/photo/1

    (warning - triggery!)
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    FizixFizix Posts: 16,932
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    She has been tweeting screen caps of the worst offenders. One of these cowards has now deleted his account.

    I don't think that's a wise response, it will draw more of the same kind of asshole to her, a bit like the Streisand Effect.

    She should just report the offending users to Twitter and the Police and let them be taken care of.
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    sodavlacsodavlac Posts: 10,607
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    roland rat wrote: »
    I wonder how close, the gaming network would come, ps3, xbox

    There quite a few nasty messages sent round, even ones saying Im going to rape you, and gamers on the mics are just as bad

    So any new law would have to cover everything, not just the net

    One lad in America recently got locked up for something said (or typed, not sure which) whilst or after gaming. Somebody called him crazy to which he replied along the lines of "Yeah, I'm crazy, I'm going to shoot up a school". He followed it up with "lol, j/k" and got arrested for making terroristic threats with bail set at $500,000. He was locked up from February until a couple of weeks ago when an anoynmous person posted his bail and he could face 10 years behind bars.
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    ResonanceResonance Posts: 16,644
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »
    oh lets see there will now be calls for twitter to be blocked in the uk too

    Surely it will have to be. What if someone posts a picture of a boob?

    Anything that has user generated content will surely have to be blocked by default under Cameron's scheme.
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    CSJBCSJB Posts: 6,188
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    CrazyLoop wrote: »
    Nobody wants that, they just want to be able to report abusive tweets more easily. That's hardly asking for the social network to be blocked is it? :rolleyes:

    An abusive tweet should never be a crime.
    A threatening one (such as rape)is a different matter.
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    FizixFizix Posts: 16,932
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    CSJB wrote: »
    An abusive tweet should never be a crime.
    A threatening one (such as rape)is a different matter.

    When people say "abusive" tweets I don't think they mean argumentative or squabbling types of tweets. I think they mean stuff that is threatening or genuinely hateful (racism etc).
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    LandisLandis Posts: 14,859
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    Is Twitter fit for purpose?

    How long has Twitter been around and they are still "thinking about" :rolleyes: having a Report Abuse Button?
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    ElanorElanor Posts: 13,326
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    Fizix wrote: »
    I don't think that's a wise response, it will draw more of the same kind of asshole to her, a bit like the Streisand Effect.

    She should just report the offending users to Twitter and the Police and let them be taken care of.

    I think I disagree - I know what you're saying, but I think too many people stay quiet about things like this. Why should she stay quiet? If more people publicised the vile stuff they are on the receiving end of, name and shame the culprits, make people in general more aware of how truly awful some of the comments being made are, then it will be come less and less acceptable.

    The amount of comments that people like CCP get in response to making a fuss about rape threats and so on, comments along the lines of 'lighten up, can't you take a joke? can't you just block the person, why don't you step away from the internet for a bit, why don't you just ignore them, why don't you shut up about it? are you just attention seeking?' etc etc is really scary and depressing.
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    rivalinrivalin Posts: 75
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    Fizix wrote: »
    When people say "abusive" tweets I don't think they mean argumentative or squabbling types of tweets. I think they mean stuff that is threatening or genuinely hateful (racism etc).

    Oh yeah let's lock people up for being "hateful", I guess people like you get to make up the definition of what is hateful and what is not.

    I find socialism a deeply hateful ideology, does that mean I get to have people who advocate it put in prison? We move every day closer to living in a society that most closely resembles East Germany.

    I suppose you're one of those people who believes in free speech as long as it isn't something you don't like? Aside from something that intentionally causes or causes someone to reasonably fear direct physical harm, people should be able to say what they want.


    Also, while the threats made to her were disgusting and inexcusable, Criado-Perez is absolutely loving this, she's another Anita Sarkeesian looking to get in on the grievance industry gravy train.

    It's interesting how the police are straight on this, because when people from less fashionable causes are threatened in this way, they do nothing.
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    LandisLandis Posts: 14,859
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    I heard this woman on the radio yesterday saying she was getting 50 threats per hours from men (That's Us BTW - 49% of Forum Members).

    Why?

    What is wrong with Men?
    Are Men broken?
    :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,095
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    Elanor wrote: »
    I think I disagree - I know what you're saying, but I think too many people stay quiet about things like this. Why should she stay quiet? If more people publicised the vile stuff they are on the receiving end of, name and shame the culprits, make people in general more aware of how truly awful some of the comments being made are, then it will be come less and less acceptable.

    The amount of comments that people like CCP get in response to making a fuss about rape threats and so on, comments along the lines of 'lighten up, can't you take a joke? can't you just block the person, why don't you step away from the internet for a bit, why don't you just ignore them, why don't you shut up about it? are you just attention seeking?' etc etc is really scary and depressing.

    That's what she said on tv. These people want to shut women up, why give them what they want. Shame them, let the world know that this type of man isn 't tolerated.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 591
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    Seems to be a nasty element of 4chan/troll culture that appears to have started out as a "joke", but has been taken up by inadequate basement dwellers who are clearly insecure in their own masculinity.
    Bear in mind these social retards spend unhealthy amounts of time obsessing over porn & misogynistic comic books.
    It's a deeply disturbing trend.
    I advise all women to take up a martial art form, such as krav maga or silat. That way they can hunt these bastards down and literally kick their nuts off. It's the only way they'll learn.
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