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Is grammar taught in schools anymore ?

PaacePaace Posts: 14,679
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I find it incredible and so annoying that a lot of people in the forums write 'of' for 'have' in a sentence .

Why is such a fundamental error occurring with so many :o
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    AaronWxAaronWx Posts: 2,531
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    Oh get off your high horse.
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    80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    Innit blud
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    abarthmanabarthman Posts: 8,501
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    I'm more of a punctuation freak.

    Spaces before full-stops and omitted question-marks really make my blood boil!
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    AxGAxG Posts: 25,663
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qT8ZYewYEY
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    Chuck WaoChuck Wao Posts: 2,724
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    I think the OP has a point .On a broader basis it's rather embarrassing that the land that gave English - can't really speak it . When foreigners have a better grasp of someone else's language you know you're in trouble :)
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    Chris FrostChris Frost Posts: 11,022
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    The list of grammar bloopers is enormous and seems to be growing month by month. I have noticed a lot of examples of mixing up than and then most recently. This is in addition to the usual suspects; they're their there, of off, bought brought, etc ect, etc ;-)

    Yes, grammar is taught in schools. But the exposure to a couple of hours a week of lesson time (if that), and some reinforcement in other subjects can't compete with the onslaught of poor vocabulary and sloppy grammar used in general "yoof" conversation, social media, instant messaging and online fora. Broadly speaking, I think it's just not considered important or thought of as a basic courtesy any more in online conversations.
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    Mrs TeapotMrs Teapot Posts: 124,896
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    Paace wrote: »
    I find it incredible and so annoying that a lot of people in the forums write 'of' for 'have' in a sentence .

    Why is such a fundamental error occurring with so many :o

    Because that is how they talk to their families and the people they know
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    LastlaughLastlaugh Posts: 3,422
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    I don't consider myself to be overly laid-back. But everytime this topic comes up, I just think christ...Is it really worth getting het up about? Really?

    P.s. You forgot a question mark at the end OP.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 410
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    If you're going to create a thread about grammar then you should make sure your sentence is perfect because the first thing people will do is point out your mistakes :-)
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,113
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    I went to a Grammar School

    But we spent most of our time doing maths, geography, RI, sport and stuff like that

    oh, and latin
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    QT 3.14QT 3.14 Posts: 1,771
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    Paace wrote: »
    I find it incredible and so annoying that a lot of people in the forums write 'of' for 'have' in a sentence .

    Why is such a fundamental error occurring with so many :o

    Pretty sure you've just broken Muphry's law there, pacifically by using a smiley for punctuation.
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    Isambard BrunelIsambard Brunel Posts: 6,598
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    VM123 wrote: »
    If you're going to create a thread about grammar then you should make sure your sentence is perfect because the first thing people will do is point out your mistakes :-)

    You missed a full stop at the end of your sentence.
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    Safi74Safi74 Posts: 5,580
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    Yes. The SPaG (spelling, punctuation and grammar) test was introduced for year 6 SATS a couple of years ago.

    Sadly, in areas where people say 'could of', or 'we was' etc, teaching the children won't make a great difference, as they won't hear it being properly modelled. They will hopefully be able to write correctly though...fingers crossed!!!
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    indianwellsindianwells Posts: 12,702
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    Isambard Brunel wrote: »
    You missed a full stop at the end of your sentence.

    :D:D:D
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    Welsh-ladWelsh-lad Posts: 51,925
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    I teach MFL, so yes grammar is taught, but pupils do not study English grammar in any great detail.
    They know what verbs, adjectives and nouns are, but they would not be able to parse a sentence and identify an adverbial clause etc.
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    Safi74Safi74 Posts: 5,580
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    Welsh-lad wrote: »
    I teach MFL, so yes grammar is taught, but pupils do not study English grammar in any great detail.
    They know what verbs, adjectives and nouns are, but they would not be able to parse a sentence and identify an adverbial clause etc.

    They will soon WL!!! Look at the KS 2 new curriculum. It's frightening what the poor little buggers are expected to learn!
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    maidinscotlandmaidinscotland Posts: 5,648
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    QT 3.14 wrote: »
    Pretty sure you've just broken Muphry's law there, pacifically by using a smiley for punctuation.

    Oh please tell me you were being ironic when you said that?
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    Safi74Safi74 Posts: 5,580
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    maidinscotland wrote: »
    Oh please tell me you were being ironic when you said that?

    Dear God I bloody well hope so!!! Ha ha ha!
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    Toby LaRhoneToby LaRhone Posts: 12,916
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    abarthman wrote: »
    I'm more of a punctuation freak.
    Then this thread should freak you out.
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    QT 3.14QT 3.14 Posts: 1,771
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    maidinscotland wrote: »
    Oh please tell me you were being ironic when you said that?

    You have to ask? Of course I was.
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    Andy2Andy2 Posts: 11,949
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    I know we've been through all this before, but the number of people I hear saying 'I seen' or 'I done' has increased massively over the last few years.
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    maidinscotlandmaidinscotland Posts: 5,648
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    QT 3.14 wrote: »
    You have to ask? Of course I was.

    We believe you ;-).
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    Safi74Safi74 Posts: 5,580
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    QT 3.14 wrote: »
    You have to ask? Of course I was.

    Honest guv!!!
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    Welsh-ladWelsh-lad Posts: 51,925
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    Safi74 wrote: »
    They will soon WL!!! Look at the KS 2 new curriculum. It's frightening what the poor little buggers are expected to learn!

    I guess that's the England KS2 curriculum. Perhaps no harm in advancing the teaching of grammar at that age.... as long as the rest of the curriculum is reduced to allow pupils the time and focus to become literate.
    The primary curriculum is insanely expansive.
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    rupert_pupkinrupert_pupkin Posts: 3,975
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    The sooner these so-called 'rules' about the English language are completely forgotten (and it won't take long) the better

    People can speak how they want, there's no right or wrong way
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