Yeah, but dictionary definitions reflect usage - all that says is that people have used it to mean that in the past, it's not a defence, really!
Obviously in the past the context was different - there's The Rape Of The Lock and all that - because, I think, that was the primary meaning. The sex offence didn't really get talked about much.
It is a defence. I remember Jeff Goldblum using it in Jurassic Park (Kid's film) when describing discovery as "...rape of the natural world"
I sometimes wonder how some people keep track of all the things they have to remember to get offended about these days. Do you think there's a market for some kind of app to help them do so?
I've just noticed that the band playing at this pub tomorrow night is called the Bipolar Bears. To whom should I address my outrage about this casual use of a mentalist phrase?
I sometimes wonder how some people keep track of all the things they have to remember to get offended about these days. Do you think there's a market for some kind of app to help them do so?
I've just noticed that the band playing at this pub tomorrow night is called the Bipolar Bears. To whom should I address my outrage about this casual use of a mentalist phrase?
If you actually give a crap about not hurting people, it's not that hard to remember what hurts people.
Also, you mean "ableist". "Mentalist" is ableist too
I sometimes wonder how some people keep track of all the things they have to remember to get offended about these days. Do you think there's a market for some kind of app to help them do so?
I've just noticed that the band playing at this pub tomorrow night is called the Bipolar Bears. To whom should I address my outrage about this casual use of a mentalist phrase?
Can't see it mentioned so far, so I'll add that that a lot of my wife's friends often post on Facebook that they have been "Fraped"*.
Seeing as how most of these friends are women I would assume they have respect for the female gender, which makes your statement a little dodgy.
*A shortening of "Facebook Raped" which means someone got into your account, often because you left it signed on, and posted silly statements.
Women are often more disrespectful to their own sex than men so it wouldn't surprise me that many of your wife's female friends quite happily disabuse the crime of rape by using it to describe their facebook page being hijacked.
Basically if you're not describing the most serious sort of sexual assault using "rape" in any other context is a bad idea
People can drone on as long as they like about original meanings and the like, but the word now is so associated with a specific type of horrific crime, it's best limited to that definition only.
There are plenty of other words one can use to describe things that "rape" shouldn't be used for.
Basically if you're not describing the most serious sort of sexual assault using "rape" in any other context is a bad idea
People can drone on as long as they like about original meanings and the like, but the word now is so associated with a specific type of horrific crime, it's best limited to that definition only.
There are plenty of other words one can use to describe things that "rape" shouldn't be used for.
I have no problem with the word being used in that context either, destruction of the natural environment is quite a serious thing.
Saying 'my wallet has been raped' doesn't work somehow.
Indeed, good posts.
I guess this is like the N word....some people don't - and never will - understand the nuanced arguments around word usage.
I wouldn't call the police, or become "outraged" over someone saying 'my wallet has been raped' or 'I've been fraped', but I would treat them as the ignorant fools that they are.
Basically if you're not describing the most serious sort of sexual assault using "rape" in any other context is a bad idea
People can drone on as long as they like about original meanings and the like, but the word now is so associated with a specific type of horrific crime, it's best limited to that definition only.
There are plenty of other words one can use to describe things that "rape" shouldn't be used for.
I suppose appealing to the lowest common denominator is always easiest. Your post reads like an internal council memo.
The word rape used in any metaphoric context true to its traditional use, such as describing a catastrophic or disastrous event such rape of the amazon forest is acceptable. As is, obviously, use of the word to describe the sexual crime of rape
Use of the word in a metaphoric context to include over exaggeration for effect,or thinking youre being cool, or referring to modern technology is in territory likely to offend someone not in your crew.
The word rape used in any metaphoric context true to its traditional use, such as describing a catastrophic or disastrous event such rape of the amazon forest is acceptable. As is, obviously, use of the word to describe the sexual crime of rape
Use of the word in a metaphoric context to include over exaggeration for effect,or thinking youre being cool, or referring to modern technology is in territory likely to offend someone not in your crew.
Well. I take exception to your casual use of the word 'crew'. Us mariners understand it to mean a tight-knit professional group of sailors prepared to lay down their lives for each other. The casual of the term to describe a gang of feckless chavs is most offensive.
I hear it all the time. As I said in the other thread it usually relates to feeling financially ripped off, the exact term being "just had my arsehole raped".
I can not say I flinch at all when I hear it, maybe de-sensitised to it.
Quite common to hear the casual use of it round here.
So when angry you'd say "I could kill her for saying that", would you also be comfortable to say "I could rape her for saying that?"
Personally, I wouldn't say either but that's not what is under discussion, is it? The OP didn't use the word 'rape' in the context of expressing a desire to perform the act on someone so Christ knows why you're mentioning it.
I hear it all the time. As I said in the other thread it usually relates to feeling financially ripped off, the exact term being "just had my arsehole raped".
I can not say I flinch at all when I hear it, maybe de-sensitised to it.
Quite common to hear the casual use of it round here.
I don't hear it used colloquially that often but I certainly don't find it offensive in a casual context. At work, If we make a bad deal, it's not unusual to say that 'we got raped on that one'. It certainly wouldn't raise any eyebrows. That's what I find so absurd about this whole thread.
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It is a defence. I remember Jeff Goldblum using it in Jurassic Park (Kid's film) when describing discovery as "...rape of the natural world"
And I bet it went over every childs head who watched it
I sometimes wonder how some people keep track of all the things they have to remember to get offended about these days. Do you think there's a market for some kind of app to help them do so?
I've just noticed that the band playing at this pub tomorrow night is called the Bipolar Bears. To whom should I address my outrage about this casual use of a mentalist phrase?
Ummm... Its stupid to compare the two; its a bit like debating whether cancer is worse than aids.
But yes I would say murder is worse than rape. Doesn't make the latter any better though.
This is a stupid thread.
Also, you mean "ableist". "Mentalist" is ableist too
No outrage on this thread.
Just pointing out that stupid words are stupid.
Seeing as how most of these friends are women I would assume they have respect for the female gender, which makes your statement a little dodgy.
*A shortening of "Facebook Raped" which means someone got into your account, often because you left it signed on, and posted silly statements.
Women are often more disrespectful to their own sex than men so it wouldn't surprise me that many of your wife's female friends quite happily disabuse the crime of rape by using it to describe their facebook page being hijacked.
Jesus, talk about making my point for me.:rolleyes:
Oh wait, is casual use of the word 'Jesus' not offending someone's religious sensibilities? Well, hush ma mouth.
People can drone on as long as they like about original meanings and the like, but the word now is so associated with a specific type of horrific crime, it's best limited to that definition only.
There are plenty of other words one can use to describe things that "rape" shouldn't be used for.
I have no problem with the word being used in that context either, destruction of the natural environment is quite a serious thing.
Saying 'my wallet has been raped' doesn't work somehow.
Indeed, good posts.
I guess this is like the N word....some people don't - and never will - understand the nuanced arguments around word usage.
I wouldn't call the police, or become "outraged" over someone saying 'my wallet has been raped' or 'I've been fraped', but I would treat them as the ignorant fools that they are.
I suppose appealing to the lowest common denominator is always easiest. Your post reads like an internal council memo.
Get real yourself, with a dictionary. That'll help.
What is?
The word rape used in any metaphoric context true to its traditional use, such as describing a catastrophic or disastrous event such rape of the amazon forest is acceptable. As is, obviously, use of the word to describe the sexual crime of rape
Use of the word in a metaphoric context to include over exaggeration for effect,or thinking youre being cool, or referring to modern technology is in territory likely to offend someone not in your crew.
Well. I take exception to your casual use of the word 'crew'. Us mariners understand it to mean a tight-knit professional group of sailors prepared to lay down their lives for each other. The casual of the term to describe a gang of feckless chavs is most offensive.
So when angry you'd say "I could kill her for saying that", would you also be comfortable to say "I could rape her for saying that?"
It's harder to recover from being murdered.
I can not say I flinch at all when I hear it, maybe de-sensitised to it.
Quite common to hear the casual use of it round here.
Personally, I wouldn't say either but that's not what is under discussion, is it? The OP didn't use the word 'rape' in the context of expressing a desire to perform the act on someone so Christ knows why you're mentioning it.
I don't hear it used colloquially that often but I certainly don't find it offensive in a casual context. At work, If we make a bad deal, it's not unusual to say that 'we got raped on that one'. It certainly wouldn't raise any eyebrows. That's what I find so absurd about this whole thread.
Oh, you are DARK!