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Old 22-03-2009, 08:27
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Well, I may be wrong but I understood that the RC could only control the on/off function of a TV set, not act as a full RC for another device.

No doubt someone will confirm or deny.
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Old 23-03-2009, 07:55
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Well, I may be wrong but I understood that the RC could only control the on/off function of a TV set, not act as a full RC for another device.

No doubt someone will confirm or deny.
Denied! Page 80-81 of the HDR manual explains what function each key will do in TV/DVD/AUDIO modes.
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Old 23-03-2009, 08:24
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Denied! Page 80-81 of the HDR manual explains what function each key will do in TV/DVD/AUDIO modes.
Yes, it does a bit more than I thought (been using a Logitech for some months now) but there's no code list for other PVR's so surely it can't control a 9200?
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Old 23-03-2009, 21:24
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Yes, it does a bit more than I thought (been using a Logitech for some months now) but there's no code list for other PVR's so surely it can't control a 9200?
Not sure why it shouldn't be able to, mines set up to control my DVD and Panasonic plasma TV, but my Bose media centre in radio controlled so I have a "free" Audio button. And I would have like to have used this for the 9200.

Any one out there know if there's a code??

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Old 24-03-2009, 09:19
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Some of the complaints about the remote are laughable. Like anything you've been used to for years(which most have with Sky) moving on to something new is bound to take a while. It took a couple of days but now it is second nature.

The only real problem I have with the remote compared to Sky is the range and direction. When I sit at the back of the room I have to lean forward to get the box to respond. I also have to point it directly at the box. The Sky box does not seem to care that much about direction and it definitely works from a further distance.

This could just be a problem with my remote so can others confirm or deny their experiences.
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Old 24-03-2009, 09:26
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Some of the complaints about the remote are laughable. Like anything you've been used to for years(which most have with Sky) moving on to something new is bound to take a while. It took a couple of days but now it is second nature.

The only real problem I have with the remote compared to Sky is the range and direction. When I sit at the back of the room I have to lean forward to get the box to respond. I also have to point it directly at the box. The Sky box does not seem to care that much about direction and it definitely works from a further distance.

This could just be a problem with my remote so can others confirm or deny their experiences.
Yes, that's my experience too. I have a small living room so don't sit far away from the TV anyway. Unless I point the remote directly at the box it does not respond.
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Old 24-03-2009, 09:54
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Some of the complaints about the remote are laughable. Like anything you've been used to for years(which most have with Sky) moving on to something new is bound to take a while. It took a couple of days but now it is second nature.

The only real problem I have with the remote compared to Sky is the range and direction. When I sit at the back of the room I have to lean forward to get the box to respond. I also have to point it directly at the box. The Sky box does not seem to care that much about direction and it definitely works from a further distance.
OK, you can laugh at people who object to a badly designed remote (although switching to a third party manufactured one gets over the problem quite easily) and we can all have a good chuckle at you having to lean forward and aim your remote.
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Old 24-03-2009, 10:08
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Some of the complaints about the remote are laughable. Like anything you've been used to for years(which most have with Sky) moving on to something new is bound to take a while. It took a couple of days but now it is second nature.

The only real problem I have with the remote compared to Sky is the range and direction. When I sit at the back of the room I have to lean forward to get the box to respond. I also have to point it directly at the box. The Sky box does not seem to care that much about direction and it definitely works from a further distance.

This could just be a problem with my remote so can others confirm or deny their experiences.
Yes it's very directional. Have you taken off the film protector from the display under the flap (It's very hard to spot). Leaving it on impairs the remote sensitivity
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Old 24-03-2009, 11:29
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just found the second bit of film on mine, can now use the remote any where in the room (15ftx15ft) great improvment thankyou
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Old 24-03-2009, 11:38
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just found the second bit of film on mine, can now use the remote any where in the room (15ftx15ft) great improvment thankyou
Even after removing the films I was unhappy with the directionality of the remote, and I think this relates to the profile of the hole on the flap though which the IR has to be transmitted.

I bought an Infrared Extender from eBay and got a massive improvement.

Remote now works pointed anywhere in the room.

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Old 24-03-2009, 11:56
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Some of the complaints about the remote are laughable. Like anything you've been used to for years(which most have with Sky) moving on to something new is bound to take a while. It took a couple of days but now it is second nature.

The only real problem I have with the remote compared to Sky is the range and direction. When I sit at the back of the room I have to lean forward to get the box to respond. I also have to point it directly at the box. The Sky box does not seem to care that much about direction and it definitely works from a further distance.

This could just be a problem with my remote so can others confirm or deny their experiences.

Why are they 'laughable'??

When I switch channel with this doof and then decide I want to watch what I see, I then have to lean the flaming thing against my leg so I can then slide my hand down to the bottom of it to turn the volume up!!! I have average sized hands so it is definately badly designed and is not a joy to use! It's far too long and not user friendly at all.
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Old 24-03-2009, 13:19
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try using two hands works fine for me
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Old 24-03-2009, 13:34
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try using two hands works fine for me
So you think that having to use both hands to operate it is a well designed remote then? Do you have to use both hands with any other device you own......because I don't. Doesn't everyone hold a doof with one hand and use their thumb to press the buttons?
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Old 24-03-2009, 14:36
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So you think that having to use both hands to operate it is a well designed remote then? Do you have to use both hands with any other device you own......because I don't. Doesn't everyone hold a doof with one hand and use their thumb to press the buttons?
I think that a zapper which requires two hands to operate really qualifies as laughable.

It isn't just the distance between buttons that is the problem with the Humax zapper, it's the fact that you need to move your hand and lose the 'index'.

The fact is that there are a lot of functions that you want to be able to use without looking, either because you are looking at the screen or because the room is darkened. These functions should all be grouped together and make use of recognisably different button shapes to enable unsighted operation.

That is why switching to the Logitech made using the box so much better. It's shape and layout mean that you don't need to look at it to do what you want - at least for the common viewing functions.
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Old 24-03-2009, 15:52
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Hi

I am also having problems with directionality of the remote and need an IR extender. Advice on which one to choose would be much appreciated.

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Old 24-03-2009, 18:45
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Having owned the Humax for a couple of months I find the RC as easy to use as my Sky HD one-and having replaced the cheap batteries supplied by Humax the direction aspect has improved.
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Old 24-03-2009, 18:55
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...and having replaced the cheap batteries supplied by Humax ...
Strange. Mine came with Duracells. I was very impressed. I've never had anything supplied with those before.
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Old 24-03-2009, 18:57
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just found the second bit of film on mine, can now use the remote any where in the room (15ftx15ft) great improvment thankyou
I've just removed both films and it works a lot further away now without any bother.
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Old 25-03-2009, 11:53
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Strange. Mine came with Duracells. I was very impressed. I've never had anything supplied with those before.
Me neither! Wondering if yours was maybe a return Tern and the person forgot to take their batteries back? Did anyone else get Duracells with their remote as mine were the usual cheap nasties that you chuck in bin?
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Old 25-03-2009, 12:08
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Me neither! Wondering if yours was maybe a return Tern and the person forgot to take their batteries back? Did anyone else get Duracells with their remote as mine were the usual cheap nasties that you chuck in bin?
Mine came with cheapies.

All box, and cellophane, seals intact, from Argos, so presume new, not a return.

(Although I'm not using the remote, got a Harmony 885).

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Old 25-03-2009, 13:03
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Me neither! Wondering if yours was maybe a return Tern and the person forgot to take their batteries back? Did anyone else get Duracells with their remote as mine were the usual cheap nasties that you chuck in bin?
They'd have to have been very quick as I got it on the first Monday at around 10:00.

Mind you, it did look like a return until I found out that there was a film to take off the front.


Edit: Apologies, I've just checked and it was the Logitech that came with Duracells. The Humax still has the cheapies in it: 'rocket' brand.
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Old 25-03-2009, 13:19
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They'd have to have been very quick as I got it on the first Monday at around 10:00.

Mind you, it did look like a return until I found out that there was a film to take off the front.


Edit: Apologies, I've just checked and it was the Logitech that came with Duracells. The Humax still has the cheapies in it: 'rocket' brand.
Mine say Bexel and still in use (Nov last year)
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Old 25-03-2009, 13:55
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Doesn't everyone hold a doof with one hand and use their thumb to press the buttons?
No have always used two hands! I don't consider that a huge issue.
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Old 25-03-2009, 14:18
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Doesn't everyone hold a doof with one hand and use their thumb to press the buttons?
I use one hand but I hold it in such a way that the lower buttons are accessible by using my thumb and then when I need access to the number buttons and transport buttons near the top I roll my grip in such a way that they are in reach of my index finger. This works even when it's dark as I make use of the tactile buttons (Pause and #5) to ensure correct operation. It even works for me after a long evening on the sauce
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Old 25-03-2009, 15:42
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No have always used two hands! I don't consider that a huge issue.
Really surprises me, only seen the elderly and kids use 2 hands when using one. It is a big issue as I'd need to put my cuppa down to do that
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