info - 2g and 3g

karlp3 · 29-11-2003, 14:56

hey,

stupid question, but what is 2g and 3g. i though 3g was the name of the company that does video calls. but people also talk about 2g so im thinking its a type of phone, can someone explain what they are.

wavejockglw · 29-11-2003, 16:00

OK in a nutshell then!

2G refers to the GSM type mobile systems used by Vodafone, 02, Orange and T-Mobile currently. This is a digital system and has been upgraded for data communication with a system called GPRS. Networks equipped with GPRS (all 4 in the UK are already) are sometimes referred to as 2.5G as they can do many of the tasks that pure 3G was previously only capable of (like receiving video-clips and MMS services).

3G is the name given to the third generation of high speed mobile phone technology and the UK has chosen W-CDMA as the standard for it's networks. All of the existing companies have a 3G licence and in addition Hutchison 3G UK (Three) also have one. In theory the 3G service should be better than the previous 2G/2.5G but early experience of the Three network does not exactly confirm this.

Further inforation on the different mobile systems can be found here: 3-G Net Information

Information about 3UK's services and user coments can be found here 3G Newsroom + Forum

Hope that helps!

Anorax · 29-11-2003, 17:22

And in case you're interested the "G" stands for 'Generation'.

1st Generation mobiles were the old analogue types (sometimes called TACS and ETACS).

karlp3 · 29-11-2003, 21:10

thanks for the info. when will services like O2 be going live video.

Everything Goes · 29-11-2003, 23:39

All UK networks plan to have 3G up and running next year. All of them want to get it right from when they launch hence they should launch about a year after 3 did. 3 have been critsised by the other networks for makeing a mockery of 3G. They have a good point, 3 is a shambles and is best avoided.

Queynte · 30-11-2003, 19:25

you are indeed correct, 3 is a complete shambles and I have had one horrendous experience after another with them.

The signal is poor, and it is usually falling back on to 2G, and thats in and around Manchester.

When the signal changes from 2G to 3G, there is a period where the phone *appears* fine, but is in fact off the network. This means that I am effectively disconnected dozens of times a day without my knowledge. (this I was told from the 3 technical helpdesk)

I use the Nec e606 handset and it easts battery life for fun. I can usually go 8 hours between charges. Less if I want to say, oooh, make/receive a call.

And as for the customer service....well, you decide. Of the times I have called them, ranging from 4pm through until 3am, the average time waiting in a queue was about 40minutes, and then, I was being advised by a, undoubtedly very friendly, chap in India whom I could not understand a word of.

Glad I decided to move with the times. Shame the times moved back to the 80s.

thomyorke · 30-11-2003, 19:30

Quentye, I have no problem with the 3 networks, I bought my phone from a reputable dealer! I have heard problems from certain (ahem) aquintances of mine which have recieved their phone from dubious sources and had "used" sim cards put in!

Queynte · 30-11-2003, 19:32

are you implying that my phone "fell off the back of a lorry"?

thomyorke · 30-11-2003, 19:37

Well, I'm just trying to help you rule out possible causes for your problem!

No need to get arsey about it!

Everything Goes · 01-12-2003, 13:23

Quote:

Originally posted by thomyorke
Quentye, I have no problem with the 3 networks, I bought my phone from a reputable dealer! I have heard problems from certain (ahem) aquintances of mine which have recieved their phone from dubious sources and had "used" sim cards put in!

This is a network fault not a phone fault.

PS Love your band thomyorke

thomyorke · 01-12-2003, 18:49

Thanks mate, I'm particularly proud of our latest album "Hail to the Thief". You should pick up a copy! Sorry, self publicity is so ugly!

Everything Goes · 01-12-2003, 19:38

Quote:

Originally posted by thomyorke
Thanks mate, I'm particularly proud of our latest album "Hail to the Thief". You should pick up a copy! Sorry, self publicity is so ugly!

I have all the Radiohead albums including Hail To The Thief (the Limited Edition map version at that!). My favorites on that album are Sail To The Moon and Wolf At The Door

thomyorke · 01-12-2003, 21:05

Excellent choices, I'm also a big fan of Where I end and you begin! Saw them live in Manchester on 22/11/2003, they we're absolutley fantastic, on of the highlights of the show was The Gloaming which I'm not that keen on on the album, but believe me, the live version is superb!

Everything Goes · 02-12-2003, 16:54

I havent seen them live. The closest I have is the I Might Be Wrong (live recordings). And Meeting People Is Easy DVD. Their newer stuff has to be a be different live. I suppose thats how you enjoyed The Gloaming more. Not one of my favorites either. I like their new material even though one of my freinds who got me into Radiohead in the first place hates their new stuff.

thomyorke · 02-12-2003, 18:32

I dunno the new stuff just seems to make more sense live, the tickets were £34 each but well worth it. Totally off topic but does the Meeting people is easy DVD have much live stuff on it? I might get a copy coz I want more live stuff by them!

Everything Goes · 02-12-2003, 22:31

Meeting People Is Easy has snippets of live footage high points being an acoustic snippet of How To Dissapear Completley and the audience sininging Creep. If you want some great live stuff check out the CD single of Fake Plastic Trees which has amazing acoustic versions of Bullet Proof ..I Wish I Was, Street Spirit (Fade Out) and Fake Plastic Trees.

I will try to get back on topic by saying u can use a 2G phone to download Radiohead ringtones

thomyorke · 03-12-2003, 19:07

.....which are available at PLAY.COM.

Nicely done, I don't think anyone noticed!

29-11-2003, 14:56	#1
karlp3 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 184	info - 2g and 3g hey, stupid question, but what is 2g and 3g. i though 3g was the name of the company that does video calls. but people also talk about 2g so im thinking its a type of phone, can someone explain what they are.

29-11-2003, 16:00	#2
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	OK in a nutshell then! 2G refers to the GSM type mobile systems used by Vodafone, 02, Orange and T-Mobile currently. This is a digital system and has been upgraded for data communication with a system called GPRS. Networks equipped with GPRS (all 4 in the UK are already) are sometimes referred to as 2.5G as they can do many of the tasks that pure 3G was previously only capable of (like receiving video-clips and MMS services). 3G is the name given to the third generation of high speed mobile phone technology and the UK has chosen W-CDMA as the standard for it's networks. All of the existing companies have a 3G licence and in addition Hutchison 3G UK (Three) also have one. In theory the 3G service should be better than the previous 2G/2.5G but early experience of the Three network does not exactly confirm this. Further inforation on the different mobile systems can be found here: 3-G Net Information Information about 3UK's services and user coments can be found here 3G Newsroom + Forum Hope that helps!

29-11-2003, 17:22	#3
Anorax Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 226	And in case you're interested the "G" stands for 'Generation'. 1st Generation mobiles were the old analogue types (sometimes called TACS and ETACS).

29-11-2003, 21:10	#4
karlp3 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 184	thanks for the info. when will services like O2 be going live video.

29-11-2003, 23:39	#5
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	All UK networks plan to have 3G up and running next year. All of them want to get it right from when they launch hence they should launch about a year after 3 did. 3 have been critsised by the other networks for makeing a mockery of 3G. They have a good point, 3 is a shambles and is best avoided.

30-11-2003, 19:25	#6
Queynte New Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 2	you are indeed correct, 3 is a complete shambles and I have had one horrendous experience after another with them. The signal is poor, and it is usually falling back on to 2G, and thats in and around Manchester. When the signal changes from 2G to 3G, there is a period where the phone appears fine, but is in fact off the network. This means that I am effectively disconnected dozens of times a day without my knowledge. (this I was told from the 3 technical helpdesk) I use the Nec e606 handset and it easts battery life for fun. I can usually go 8 hours between charges. Less if I want to say, oooh, make/receive a call. And as for the customer service....well, you decide. Of the times I have called them, ranging from 4pm through until 3am, the average time waiting in a queue was about 40minutes, and then, I was being advised by a, undoubtedly very friendly, chap in India whom I could not understand a word of. Glad I decided to move with the times. Shame the times moved back to the 80s.

30-11-2003, 19:30	#7
thomyorke Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 32	Quentye, I have no problem with the 3 networks, I bought my phone from a reputable dealer! I have heard problems from certain (ahem) aquintances of mine which have recieved their phone from dubious sources and had "used" sim cards put in!

30-11-2003, 19:32	#8
Queynte New Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 2	are you implying that my phone "fell off the back of a lorry"?

30-11-2003, 19:37	#9
thomyorke Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 32	Well, I'm just trying to help you rule out possible causes for your problem! No need to get arsey about it!

01-12-2003, 13:23	#10
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally posted by thomyorke Quentye, I have no problem with the 3 networks, I bought my phone from a reputable dealer! I have heard problems from certain (ahem) aquintances of mine which have recieved their phone from dubious sources and had "used" sim cards put in! This is a network fault not a phone fault. PS Love your band thomyorke

01-12-2003, 18:49	#11
thomyorke Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 32	Thanks mate, I'm particularly proud of our latest album "Hail to the Thief". You should pick up a copy! Sorry, self publicity is so ugly!

01-12-2003, 19:38	#12
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally posted by thomyorke Thanks mate, I'm particularly proud of our latest album "Hail to the Thief". You should pick up a copy! Sorry, self publicity is so ugly! I have all the Radiohead albums including Hail To The Thief (the Limited Edition map version at that!). My favorites on that album are Sail To The Moon and Wolf At The Door

01-12-2003, 21:05	#13
thomyorke Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 32	Excellent choices, I'm also a big fan of Where I end and you begin! Saw them live in Manchester on 22/11/2003, they we're absolutley fantastic, on of the highlights of the show was The Gloaming which I'm not that keen on on the album, but believe me, the live version is superb!

02-12-2003, 16:54	#14
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	I havent seen them live. The closest I have is the I Might Be Wrong (live recordings). And Meeting People Is Easy DVD. Their newer stuff has to be a be different live. I suppose thats how you enjoyed The Gloaming more. Not one of my favorites either. I like their new material even though one of my freinds who got me into Radiohead in the first place hates their new stuff.

02-12-2003, 18:32	#15
thomyorke Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 32	I dunno the new stuff just seems to make more sense live, the tickets were £34 each but well worth it. Totally off topic but does the Meeting people is easy DVD have much live stuff on it? I might get a copy coz I want more live stuff by them!

02-12-2003, 22:31	#16
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Meeting People Is Easy has snippets of live footage high points being an acoustic snippet of How To Dissapear Completley and the audience sininging Creep. If you want some great live stuff check out the CD single of Fake Plastic Trees which has amazing acoustic versions of Bullet Proof ..I Wish I Was, Street Spirit (Fade Out) and Fake Plastic Trees. I will try to get back on topic by saying u can use a 2G phone to download Radiohead ringtones

03-12-2003, 19:07	#17
thomyorke Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 32	.....which are available at PLAY.COM. Nicely done, I don't think anyone noticed!

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