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Foxsat HDR Freeze During Recording
I've had my Foxsat HDR freeze a couple of times while I'm recording and accessing the recorded items menu.
When I pressed the watch from last played position the system stops responding to the remote or the front panel buttons, but the current channel is still playing in the background with all the menus in the front. The only method I've found so far to get out of this it to turn the box power off. Has anyone else experienced this? |
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yes - i've had this as well. it seems to be more prevalent with HD recordings.
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I had list last week while recording Lark rise in HD last Sunday. I pressed a button on the remote at the time to see info of the program and it just hung
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Its all gone a bit Pete Tong here today too. Three failed recordings and three lock-ups.
![]() ![]() ![]() Only route to recovery was the power switch. Even the standby button on the front panel was totally dead. Just hoping it is not a sign of terminal illness. By chance I noticed that the cover was rather warm and normally it is quite cool. This plus my totally missed recorings last week is a bit of a concern. Apart from the Disecq set-up for Astra 1 mine is a legit install, using original hard drive. If it happens again I guess I could try a factory reset unless anyone else has any pointers?
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more information is it Freesat cock-up?
Just looked at one of my failed recordings which generated the lock-up or freeze. Program was Used Car Roadshow ITV 4 should have been 17:30 to 18:30. I wonder why the "I" plate says "The Force" billed time 23:16 and then reverts to the intended programme after a couple of minutes??
![]() Maybe the Foxsat has every right to freeze under the circumstances ????
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Just looked at one of my failed recordings which generated the lock-up or freeze. Program was Used Car Roadshow ITV 4 should have been 17:30 to 18:30. I wonder why the "I" plate says "The Force" billed time 23:16 and then reverts to the intended programme after a couple of minutes??
![]() Maybe the Foxsat has every right to freeze under the circumstances ????I have concluded that the i plate information for a recording is taken from the cached EPG. I have seen a number of instances of recordings that start a little earlier than the scheduled time giving information for the previous programme on the i plate. When it gets to (what I asume to be) the scheduled start time, the i plate changes to the programme that was recorded. The implication is that the recorded i plate information is unrelated to the signal that started the recording. I've also noticed that the i plate information (for both the previous programme and the one that was recorded) is stored in one of the sidecar files. If the i plate information was indeed obtained from the cached EPG, you would have to wonder how it could possible get what it showed. Massive screw up somewhere, no doubt, but perhaps more likely in the software than the EPG. Edit: I've just checked the listings. "The Force" was the previous programme, so that's consistant with my observations. It is the 23:16 that is really weird. |
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This is another case of me trying to figure out what the box is doing by observing what happens, so please read it with a degree of scepticism.
I have concluded that the i plate information for a recording is taken from the cached EPG. I have seen a number of instances of recordings that start a little earlier than the scheduled time giving information for the previous programme on the i plate. When it gets to (what I asume to be) the scheduled start time, the i plate changes to the programme that was recorded. The implication is that the recorded i plate information is unrelated to the signal that started the recording. I've also noticed that the i plate information (for both the previous programme and the one that was recorded) is stored in one of the sidecar files. If the i plate information was indeed obtained from the cached EPG, you would have to wonder how it could possible get what it showed. Massive screw up somewhere, no doubt, but perhaps more likely in the software than the EPG. Edit: I've just checked the listings. "The Force" was the previous programme, so that's consistant with my observations. It is the 23:16 that is really weird. From discussions on the Feeview/Humax forum this has been confirmed for Freeview, at least. On the Humax 9300T, the i-plate info is contained within the Transport Stream, so when you press Info from the Recorded Programmes, it has to start playing the prog to retrieve the info, and it does change as it gets to the real programme. However, with the HDR, it does not have to play the file from the Media list to retrieve the i-plate. This is consistent with your findings that the data is present in one of the support files - it only has to look here, not in the Transport Stream. The support file must contain some time data to be able to change the programme name at the correct time that the Transport Stream shows the next programme. Maybe the support file has a corruption with the time? If so, is this an indication of general file corruption on these systems, and maybe time for a reset & re-format, which is the usual solution for file corruptions on Humax Freeview boxes, so why not the HDR too? Rgds. Les. |
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If the i plate information was indeed obtained from the cached EPG, you would have to wonder how it could possible get what it showed. Massive screw up somewhere, no doubt, but perhaps more likely in the software than the EPG.
If people used the short-cut to the EPG (the fast method of going to Schedules, then EPG) then I would expect cached data to be old and out of sync with the real EPG data (which might cause problems)... |
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I would assume that the cache EPG data is updated each time you go into the EPG (properly).
If people used the short-cut to the EPG (the fast method of going to Schedules, then EPG) then I would expect cached data to be old and out of sync with the real EPG data (which might cause problems)... |
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I experimented a few weeks ago using the footy on ITV as I suspected schedule slippage would occur. I set the HDR to record the News immediately following the footy.
The News was scheduled 10:20 to 10:45 (or something like that). Around 10:15 ish the footy was in extra time and bringing up the iPlate showed that the News had been re-scheduled at 10:45 however at 10:18 (I have 2 minutes padding) the HDR started recording. The Scheduler still showed that the News was scheduled from 10:20 to 10:45 however brining up the cached EPG showed the updated schedule (i.e. the News running from 10:45 to 11:10) with the clock symbol displayed on the updated News slot. The HDR finished recording at 10:50 - meantime the footy was still on and the Iplate and the full EPG showed the News was scheduled from 11:00 to 11:25 (I can't remember whether or not the clock symbol was still overlayed - I suspect not). The HDR did not record the News when it finally did start becuase it had alreday disappeared from the schedule (as it was set as a one off and had already recorded something). Just my observation, but there does appear to be some Schedule Tracking bugs when programme slippage happens. |
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@richard_g_uk
Because you had padding set, Accurate Record would have been disabled. However, I would still have expected it to track changes in the EPG. If you could see that the EPG had been updated, you would think that it should, but maybe the scheduler doesn't check the EPG very often. It might rely too much on the Accurate Record feature which you disabled. I wonder what the EPG contained for the News at 10:05, i.e. 15 minutes before it was originally scheduled, and when the box would have woken up for the recording had it been in standby. That might be the last time it checked the EPG. |
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