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Old 16-03-2009, 09:24
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I have noticed a couple of series links that have got stuck past todays date and the next broadcast isn't in the list to be recorded.
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Old 16-03-2009, 09:31
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I have noticed a couple of series links that have got stuck past todays date and the next broadcast isn't in the list to be recorded.
Name and shame them jwball... I have a few too Ten Days to War and Natural world, I also had a few like QI but that was because of comic relief changing the schedule and now they have updated
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Old 16-03-2009, 10:20
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Old 16-03-2009, 13:02
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Name and shame them jwball... I have a few too Ten Days to War and Natural world, I also had a few like QI but that was because of comic relief changing the schedule and now they have updated
I didn't realise they updated. I thought once the day in question had passed that they were stuck so deleted them. Maybe I was a little hasty.
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Old 16-03-2009, 13:26
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I didn't realise they updated. I thought once the day in question had passed that they were stuck so deleted them. Maybe I was a little hasty.
Generally because the HDR uses an 8 day epg the following episode is available to be used for the purpose of updating the schedule so it appears to do it seamlessly without any out of date reservations becoming 'stuck'. However if a series link extends further than this 8 day period it results in the situation you've encountered.
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Old 16-03-2009, 16:16
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Series link timers will be retained until some weeks after the last episode, in fact there is no mechanism for knowing the end of a series, the timers just wait some weeks after and if they don't see anything for a while they expire.

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Old 16-03-2009, 17:05
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Series link timers will be retained until some weeks after the last episode, in fact there is no mechanism for knowing the end of a series, the timers just wait some weeks after and if they don't see anything for a while they expire.
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13 weeks i do believe
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Old 16-03-2009, 17:24
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Series link timers will be retained until some weeks after the last episode, in fact there is no mechanism for knowing the end of a series, the timers just wait some weeks after and if they don't see anything for a while they expire.

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Cant we have an option of hiding them automatically, I use the schedule to see what I will watch today and usually have to skip half a dozen expired links.

I dont see the point of having anything in the schedule that we arent going to record.
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Old 16-03-2009, 17:41
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Cant we have an option of hiding them automatically, I use the schedule to see what I will watch today and usually have to skip half a dozen expired links.

I dont see the point of having anything in the schedule that we arent going to record.
why don't you just delete them?
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Old 16-03-2009, 17:55
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Cant we have an option of hiding them automatically, ....
That might be nice as long as there was a way of unhiding them. I agree that having them hanging around the beginning of the schedule can be a nuisance, but it can also be helpful.

Orphaned items are more obvious than absent ones. They have been an alert to me of the fiasco ITV have been having with there Sunday night series, and may have saved me losing a recording. It can also be useful to know that a series has come to an end. Then there's the doubt I might have if an items vanished, "Did I set it as a single recording by mistake?".
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Old 16-03-2009, 18:09
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Orphaned items are more obvious than absent ones. They have been an alert to me of the fiasco ITV have been having with there Sunday night series, and may have saved me losing a recording. It can also be useful to know that a series has come to an end. Then there's the doubt I might have if an items vanished, "Did I set it as a single recording by mistake?".
The trouble is, the info from these programs are deleted so you cant even see if the program was the last in series which is really annoying too.
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Old 16-03-2009, 20:09
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am I missing something as I can only find weekly,daily, and weekdays to schedule repeated progs.
is that what is meant by series link?
I have been spoilt by a previous Sky+ box where it decided when the repeats occured and I had assumed it meant the same on the Humax.
it seems that I will be unable to set the number of editions to record, if so it is poor programming that is not even as good as my Freeview Pace Twin recorder which is over three years old.
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Old 16-03-2009, 20:35
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am I missing something as I can only find weekly,daily, and weekdays to schedule repeated progs.
is that what is meant by series link?
I have been spoilt by a previous Sky+ box where it decided when the repeats occured and I had assumed it meant the same on the Humax.
it seems that I will be unable to set the number of editions to record, if so it is poor programming that is not even as good as my Freeview Pace Twin recorder which is over three years old.
You are missing something. All you have to do is set the recording from the EPG. If the programme is a series, the HDR will ask if you want to record the whole series or just the single episode. If you chose the whole series, it will automatically record each episode whenever it is transmitted - it doesn't have to be at the same time each day or whatever.

There are a few exceptions that you need to be aware of.
- Manually changing any of the times or repeat events will cancel the automatic series record.
- Series record relies on the broadcaster marking a programme as being part of a series in the EPG. The main broadcaster do a pretty good job of this except for ITV1 for Sunday evening programmes.
- The is a bug somewhere in the system that means that series link doesn't work reliably on some channels (e.g. the Zone channels, and BBC Alba, and some others). If you are interested in more (complicated) information, have a look at this thread.

You should only set manual repeats for programmes for which automatic series record doesn't work.
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Old 16-03-2009, 21:17
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charlo you need to go to the EPG and press the OK button NOT the record button
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Old 16-03-2009, 21:38
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charlo you need to go to the EPG and press the OK button NOT the record button
Oops! I should have thought of that, it's absolutely spot on. I'd forgotten you could schedule a recording from the EPG with the record button. The OK button might take an extra button press, but my thumb is in exactly the right place, so it's easier.
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Old 16-03-2009, 22:32
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13 weeks i do believe
I don't have a foxsat yet.

However on my Warfedale Freeview I have found it very handy that the series link timers persist (it seems for ever!!).

You then don't have to remember that a new series has started many months (a year?) down the line. I have noticed many times series that I had on series link last year suddenly appear in the recordings library.
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Old 17-03-2009, 11:16
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However on my Warfedale Freeview I have found it very handy that the series link timers persist (it seems for ever!!).

You then don't have to remember that a new series has started many months (a year?) down the line. I have noticed many times series that I had on series link last year suddenly appear in the recordings library.
Are you sure it's the series link that persists and not the search for them?

The lack of a permanent search on the Foxsat+ is a serious omission.
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Old 17-03-2009, 19:39
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[quote=awo1949;31374203]You are missing something. All you have to do is set the recording from the EPG. If the programme is a series, the HDR will ask if you want to record the whole series or just the single episode. If you chose the whole series, it will automatically record each episode whenever it is transmitted - it doesn't have to be at the same time each day or whatever.

Thanks awo1949
I have deleted all the individual entries for working lunch and set it from EPG and will wait with baited breath to see if it works at 13.30 Wed and then 12.30 on Thurs, etc.
also set countdown to see if it copes when CH4 goes racing instead.

it will not work with BBC radio 2

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Old 17-03-2009, 20:11
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I have deleted all the individual entries for working lunch and set it from EPG and will wait with baited breath to see if it works at 13.30 Wed and then 12.30 on Thurs, etc.
also set countdown to see if it copes when CH4 goes racing instead.

it will not work with BBC radio 2
Ouch!!! Working Lunch is on BBC News, I believe. BBC News is one of the channels for which there's a bug in the system. The thread I pointed to above goes into more detail. In short, programmes on BBC News, BBC Parliament, BBC Alba, the Zone channels (and possibly some others) don't have the right data in the EPG for automatic series record to work reliably with the HDR (even though the HDR will offer it). It is a matter of speculation as to whether the problem is with the broadcasters or the HDR. My money is on the HDR.

For these channels you should either set the programmes individually or manually set a repeat event. There are pros and cons. Repeat event is easier but will disable schedule tracking (takes account of changed programme times updated in the EPG) and accurate recording (takes account of last minute programme overruns and is generally more accurate). Accurate record is not an issue with these channels as it is the EPG information which enables accurate record that is missing. Schedule tracking should still work on a single recording (I think ) but isn't as accurate or reliable as accurate record.

Countdown on Ch4 should be OK.

None of BBC's radio programmes have series record. Hovever, unlike the above, this is safe as the HDR won't offer it.
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Old 17-03-2009, 20:16
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Ouch!!! Working Lunch is on BBC News, I believe.
BBC2

you've got yourself in a right tizzie with your quotes too
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Old 17-03-2009, 20:27
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I have deleted all the individual entries for working lunch and set it from EPG and will wait with baited breath to see if it works at 13.30 Wed and then 12.30 on Thurs, etc.
also set countdown to see if it copes when CH4 goes racing instead.

it will not work with BBC radio 2
Charlo have you seen my post #14 ?? you won't get series link without following my advice in it also you won't get the HD options by just pressing the record button
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Old 17-03-2009, 20:30
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BBC2 should be fine. Having said that, it's bound to prove me wrong.

What happened was that I had a vague recollection someone had reported problems with Working Lunch in the past, and thought the reason might be because it's on BBC News. I did a quick google search for "Working Lunch" and the top hit was "BBC NEWS | Programmes | Working Lunch". I guess that refers to the department, not the channel.
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Old 18-03-2009, 19:33
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BBC2 should be fine. Having said that, it's bound to prove me wrong.

What happened was that I had a vague recollection someone had reported problems with Working Lunch in the past, and thought the reason might be because it's on BBC News. I did a quick google search for "Working Lunch" and the top hit was "BBC NEWS | Programmes | Working Lunch". I guess that refers to the department, not the channel.
I have tried to set series link for working lunch but it missed wednesday`s prog which was at a later time than the rest of the week.
is this how it is meant to be? - if so, it is next to useless and I may as well set manually for each day separately.

I also set it for countdown and it missed the 5.25pm show and it shows the next timer is set for 4.55am which is not the same episode but a repeat of Monday`s prog. and I usually switch the box off at night and on again at midday.
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Old 18-03-2009, 19:35
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I have The Big Bang Theory on Channel 4 as a series record. Last night's episode recorded as planned and next weeks is showing in the schedule as expected but last night's entry is at the top of my schedule
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Old 19-03-2009, 10:37
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Cant we have an option of hiding them automatically
They don't really need to be hidden, they just need for the next episode date to be changed to 'Unscheduled' or something like that (as having them in the past is bound to confuse people) and for them to be listed at the end.

Surely that would make everyone happy?
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