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What file system for HDR?
I have a spare 160Gb hard disk in a cradle and wish to use it via USB with the HDR, what file system do you need, it doesn't support NTFS, and seems to want FAT16/32. This I believe wouldn't allow me access to the majority of my disc. As as the hard disc in the HDR is 320Gb there must be some file system supporting it. Any offers?
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I have a spare 160Gb hard disk in a cradle and wish to use it via USB with the HDR, what file system do you need, it doesn't support NTFS, and seems to want FAT16/32. This I believe wouldn't allow me access to the majority of my disc. As as the hard disc in the HDR is 320Gb there must be some file system supporting it. Any offers?
Woolfynorm. ![]() ![]() FAT32 supports up to 2TB, but is limited to formatting via the GUI on Windows 2000/XP to 32GB - you can get round this limitation via command line, but massive FAT32 partitions aren't recommended: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table Regards Chris |
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FAT32 is also fairly pointless for the HDR because it has a single file limit of 4GB.
Formatting your spare drive to linux ext2 would probably be best. |
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How, and can I save the data
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FAT32 is also fairly pointless for the HDR because it has a single file limit of 4GB.
Formatting your spare drive to linux ext2 would probably be best. And can I maintain the data, currently formatted via windows? Woolfynorm. |
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FAT32 is also fairly pointless for the HDR because it has a single file limit of 4GB.
Formatting your spare drive to linux ext2 would probably be best. |
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Sorry silly question, how do you do this?
And can I maintain the data, currently formatted via windows? Woolfynorm. http://www.fs-driver.org/ Regards Chris |
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Sorry silly question, how do you do this?
And can I maintain the data, currently formatted via windows? Woolfynorm. Read This http://www.avforums.com/forums/frees...ml#post8348697 However use Slax rather than Nimble X (It's more user friendly) http://www.slax.org/ Note you have to use EXT3 (EXT2 does not work due to a bug) |
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Looking further at the windows driver, I don't think it supports the initial creation of the ext3 volume (or not that I can see) - you may have to use slax or another linux distro to do that first..
It will allow you full read/write to the drive from windows afterwards though - with the following two points to be aware of 1. Linux user access rights aren't fully implemented 2. Dos 8.3 file names aren't supported Neither of these should be an issue for the purposes you're looking at using it for though.. Regards Chris |
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Grab an ubunu live cd (or similar), boot from it and format your drive.
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FAT32 also OK
I formatted a 150GB Freecom USB drive as FAT32 and that works fine. Also means it is easy to play content on my Windows system (files are stored in .TS format so you need to use VLC or similar to play them).
I had to use some 3rd party software (Paragon Harddisk Manager - which a SE edition is available as Freeware) to get my Vista system to format the drive in FAT32. Someone mentioned earlier about the 4GB file size limit - I have not hit this yet. The bigest file I have copied is a 2 hour film which took up 2.7GB so I doubt that 4GB will be a problem most of the time anyway. Last edited by winterwarmer : 22-03-2009 at 11:44. Reason: Comment on 4GB limit |
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I formatted a 150GB Freecom USB drive as FAT32 and that works fine. Also means it is easy to play content on my Windows system (files are stored in .TS format so you need to use VLC or similar to play them).
I had to use some 3rd party software (Paragon Harddisk Manager - which a SE edition is available as Freeware) to get my Vista system to format the drive in FAT32. Someone mentioned earlier about the 4GB file size limit - I have not hit this yet. The bigest file I have copied is a 2 hour film which took up 2.7GB so I doubt that 4GB will be a problem most of the time anyway. |
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Not got into HD yet (still have an old Televison!) - guess I need to think about that in the future!
Nice to know though that you can get non-encrypted HD - I thought it was all encrypted. |
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BBC HD is free-to-air, but a "protected" flag is sent as part of the broadcast stream, so if it is recorded, it cannot then be copied onto a USB device.
But if you put the box in non-freesat mode, you can then record and copy onto another device (right?). That's what Graham means by "non-encrypted". |
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Nice to know though that you can get non-encrypted HD ....
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You can't, not in freesat mode unless the broadcaster permits it (which they don't). You can in non-freesat mode by power-cycling the box after changing to non-freesat mode, but that's probably a bug that'll be given higher priority than some that we're concerned about
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BBC HD is free-to-air, but a "protected" flag is sent as part of the broadcast stream, so if it is recorded, it cannot then be copied onto a USB device.
But if you put the box in non-freesat mode, you can then record and copy onto another device (right?). That's what Graham means by "non-encrypted". ![]() In fact with the foxsat drive installed in an external esata cradle you can copy even encrypted recordings using the cradles usb port, not that you can do much with them other than copy them to another modified Foxsat-hdr. Might be usefull if you are tight on space though. |
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It's not a bug it's like this on all generic fta boxes (which the Foxsat effectively is in non freesat mode). It's only freesat that is crippled in this way.
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I wouldn't be so sure that it isn't a bug. As you say, it's only freesat that is crippled in this way, but the Foxsat HDR is a freesat box, licensed by freesat, and built to conform to a freesat specification. I can only guess, but my guess is that the specification requires that copy protection be implemented whichever mode the box is in. If that guess is correct, I would expect non-conformance with the specification to be a fairly high priority on the bug-fix list. I might be way off beam, and I hope I am, but I can't help being cynical about anything to do with copy protection where the rights holders have any influence.
. I can archive encrypted HD anyway so it won't affect me one way or the other. Anyone else affected I guess will simply buy a fta box.
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Correct but only BBC HD (and Luxe HD) as you can't get ITV HD in non freesat mode. Maybe Humax will give us the matching capability as now provided by the new Sky epg who can now add ITV HD using add channels
![]() I hope for the foxsat community that they allow this as well now. I seem to remember Bob saying somewhere there would be a non-freesat version of the foxsat PVR, the implication being there would still be a 7 day epg, but I can't find it to check. If this is true, I'd buy it.
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