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HDMI to DVI-D
Anyone have any ideas why I cannot get BBC HD channel using the above cable as instructed in the user manual?
I have a cheap 42 inch plasma which is 720 HD specification. When I attach the HDMI cable to the DVI-d connection I sometimes get a picture on the TV for 30 seconds or so and then it goes blank. I have tried a second cable and the same thing happens. The only way to use the HDR is through a scart socket so I don't get HD. If I buy a new LG or Toshiba TV with 1080 resolution and HDMI sockets will it work in HD? My TV only has DVI-d or component input. |
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Anyone have any ideas why I cannot get BBC HD channel using the above cable as instructed in the user manual?
I have a cheap 42 inch plasma which is 720 HD specification. When I attach the HDMI cable to the DVI-d connection I sometimes get a picture on the TV for 30 seconds or so and then it goes blank. I have tried a second cable and the same thing happens. The only way to use the HDR is through a scart socket so I don't get HD. If I buy a new LG or Toshiba TV with 1080 resolution and HDMI sockets will it work in HD? My TV only has DVI-d or component input. You could check this out by tuning in Luxe HD in non-freesat mode and trying that. Luxe HD does not use copy protection. You might also have some success tuning in BBC HD in non-freesat mode. Switch the HDR on and off after entering non-freesat mode and it might let you watch BBC HD. An awful pain, I know, and it may well not work, but it might come in handy until you get a new TV. Another possibility might be a different HDMI-DVI convertor but, as I said, I'm not an expert. Perhaps someone else here could advise. Edit: One thing that isn't clear in your post is, "Can you view SD channels via the HDMI connector?". If not, there might be a simpler problem (e.g. duff convertor). If you can't, try disabling HDCP in the set-up menu. That won't help with BBC HD, but might determine whether you have a duff convertor as it ought to work. |
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Thanks for the quick reply. My next question would be how do you go into non freesat mode? I have only had the thing for 24 hours and am still studying the manual!
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Thanks for the quick reply. My next question would be how do you go into non freesat mode? I have only had the thing for 24 hours and am still studying the manual!
![]() Luxe HD Transponder: Press OK and select 12643 H Network Serach: Disable Scramble Type: FTA Channel Type: TV BBC HD Transponder: Press OK and select 10847 V Network Serach: Disable Scramble Type: FTA Channel Type: TV All channels on the transponder will be tuned in. You can delete the ones you don't want. To disable HDCP (see the edit to my earlier post) , follow the instructions for TV Setup at the top of page 37 of the manual to bring up the options. Then go to page 39 of the manual and follow the instructions for setting HDCP Default to Disable. Good luck. Edit: I forgot the standard warning . When you scan in non-freesat mode, any recordings you have will be lost and you will need to set them up again. Any recordings you have already made will be OK. The same applies to deleting, moving, or renaming non-freesat channels. Simply switching to non-freesat mode to view a non-freesat channel is OK.
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I'm not an expert, and this is just an educated guess, but I think the HDR requires a TV with HDCP support for copy protected HD to work. It'll be OK on SD. HDCP is a copy protection protocol between source and TV which is required for copy protected HD broadcasts. It seems that HDCP is not working when you connect through an HDMI-DVI convertor. An HD Ready TV (or Full HD TV) with HDMI inputs will be OK.
You could check this out by tuning in Luxe HD in non-freesat mode and trying that. Luxe HD does not use copy protection. You might also have some success tuning in BBC HD in non-freesat mode. Switch the HDR on and off after entering non-freesat mode and it might let you watch BBC HD. An awful pain, I know, and it may well not work, but it might come in handy until you get a new TV. Another possibility might be a different HDMI-DVI convertor but, as I said, I'm not an expert. Perhaps someone else here could advise. Edit: One thing that isn't clear in your post is, "Can you view SD channels via the HDMI connector?". If not, there might be a simpler problem (e.g. duff convertor). If you can't, try disabling HDCP in the set-up menu. That won't help with BBC HD, but might determine whether you have a duff convertor as it ought to work. |
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Thanks very much for your help.
I have printed out the post and followed it to the letter, and have now seen Luxe HD via the DVI-D. That gives me the confidence to go out and buy a new 1080 TV now that I know the HDMI output is working. Just have to decide which TV to buy now! |
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Thanks very much for your help.
I have printed out the post and followed it to the letter, and have now seen Luxe HD via the DVI-D. That gives me the confidence to go out and buy a new 1080 TV now that I know the HDMI output is working. Just have to decide which TV to buy now! It is very expensive and may not be worth it to you. I don't have any experience of it so can't promise that it will solve your problem. All I know about it is what it's supposed to do (and that should work for you), and some postings about it on this forum. Some of these report problems, so it would be worth searching the forum for it if you are going to consider it. Note that there is an older version called HDFURY and the problems may relate to that version. |
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Great information and the HDfury would probably be the way to go, but I have been pricing up Full HD TVs now and will get one this weekend.
Here in France, TVs are called "HD ready" for the 720 standard and "Full HD" for the 1080 standard. I have seen a LG 47LG5500 for 850 euros which has a HDTNT (French digital terrestrial) built in and is 1080 spec. It also has 3 HDMI sockets, so I assume that should work well with the Foxsat HDR. I did not want to buy the new TV if the Foxsat box had a problem, but now, with your help, I have proved that it doesn't. |
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Here in France, ..............
Congrats on getting it sorted out. It may be worth editing your profile on DS to put your location as "Town", France. This may be relevant if you come back for more help with your HDR, and assist other members with offering you solutions. Rgds. Les. |
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Great information and the HDfury would probably be the way to go, but I have been pricing up Full HD TVs now and will get one this weekend.
Here in France, TVs are called "HD ready" for the 720 standard and "Full HD" for the 1080 standard. I have seen a LG 47LG5500 for 850 euros which has a HDTNT (French digital terrestrial) built in and is 1080 spec. It also has 3 HDMI sockets, so I assume that should work well with the Foxsat HDR. I did not want to buy the new TV if the Foxsat box had a problem, but now, with your help, I have proved that it doesn't. |
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Savvy, I have found the profile bit and changed my location as suggested, thanks.
Graham, Too late, I don't mess about and went out and bought the LG 475500 TV! It is fantastic in HD and I am so pleased with my new system. I now need to go and make some HD videos in the microlight and try them through the TV. Bob Thompson |
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........in the microlight...........
![]() ![]() ![]() Skimming over the waves on my boat knocks spots off those boating/marina shots on Luxe HD ![]() ![]() ![]() She's just been put back in the water after the winter layup; can't wait for some decent weather to get back out there. Enjoy (Oh, and your new TV, too )Rgds. Les. |
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Savvy, I have found the profile bit and changed my location as suggested, thanks.
Graham, Too late, I don't mess about and went out and bought the LG 475500 TV! It is fantastic in HD and I am so pleased with my new system. I now need to go and make some HD videos in the microlight and try them through the TV. Bob Thompson . Pleased you like the TV.
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Hey Bob any relation
. Pleased you like the TV. |
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Could be Graham, all of my mob come from around Birmingham,
. Married to a Brummy.
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. When you scan in non-freesat mode, any recordings you have will be lost and you will need to set them up again. Any recordings you have already made will be OK. The same applies to deleting, moving, or renaming non-freesat channels. Simply switching to non-freesat mode to view a non-freesat channel is OK.


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