Think he will be trouble too, he looks like Gavin Rae of Cardiff City also

He is a prat. Complaining about lack of work yet all he did was repeat circling a specific spot on the car, whilst washing.

Total bloody idiot, and lucky to have won and escaped the boardroom.

I felt it was wrong of Phillip to undermine him all the time though , especially since he himself couldn't even hoover the bloody car properly

Is Philip the geordie? If so, he came across the most as a prat.

Yeah , he's already on my "hate" list. He actually didn't do anything that significantly contributed to the win (oh wait...he did wash a car every 1.5 hours) yet had the cheek to moan about the team leader. Prat.

Actually, I felt Howard did an adequate job.

The person that peed me off most on the boy's team was Philip.

I think he's a bit of a snake like Alex from last year.

And I took note Howard made sure they did costing; if they didn't they would have lost.

Also, at least the shoe-shining was making some money. The other half were like headless chickens.

Absolutely.

Considering it was the first task and he had lots of people to manage, he did well.

Philip was determined to dislike him and make his life difficult from the outset.

I think Phillip was wrong on this occasion for the reasons that Rufus gave

Rufus was awesome!

I felt a bit sorry for Howard. You could tell the pressure was getting to him a bit. He was just trying his best to impress. He just has to be careful not to come across as being too desperate.

I think he did OK, actually. The shoe-shining was running more smoothly than the car-washing. I think Philip was just trying to find a scapegoat in Howard so that he'd be prepared to save himself from being fired if the team lost.

I think scrapping the shoes was correct as they would have only got so many sales from that, whereas cars would get more, but as I said, it wasn't his fault that the muppets started doing the insides of cars

They shouldn't have had to scrap the shoes, which is a shame as it seemed to be a nice little earner.

I thought he did well all things considering. Phillip was out to undermine him from the start.

I just think that the shoes would have dried up eventually. The amount of customers in that shopping area would probably be constant throughout the day meaning that I reckon they'd run out.

Not exactly a very modern thing either, despite what the sales may suggest.

The cars would bring in more

He was just alright, but hardly came across as a leader. I think their victory was quite largely down to luck rather than managerial and business skill on Howard's part. He reminds me of Adam, which does not bode well.

He was a kn*b but fair play being team leader in week one is a thankless task although you know you are pretty safe from firing..

That's an edit.

When he arrived they actually got something done.

How can you say hes a tool, he managed the team well, including that useless Philip!!! He made a vital £60 in 1 hour while those 4 idots took 1 1/2 hours to do nothing.

I agree with you.
I think that people look on the project manager harshly because Philip reminds some people of a Lee Mqueen style archetype, so look on Philip in a more positive light because he's 'regional', 'a grafter', 'plain speaking', 'direct', etc. etc. He fits the archetype on a superficial level.
He was even ready to waste valuable time on market research when it transpired that one of the problems with this task was to not waste too much time and just get on with it.

I just think that on the surface Philip reminds people of the Lee Mqueen archetype in a superficial way. So they tend to side with him more readily.

The project manager seemed to actually do a decent job.
The boys washing cars were doing badly. The project manager shining shoes was doing really well. He had to leave to join the others to sort the problem out personally. Philip starts moaning saying it's a bad idea.
Philip says that too many cooks spoil the broth.
Then once the project manager arrives suddenly they're doing well again.
They win the task.

So as far as I'm concerned the problem wasn't on the project manager's end.
He joins the main group again and suddenly turns things around for the better.

I think that the project manager did well. It wasn't his fault that some of the others were too ready to make things difficult for him and almost sabotage the task and undermine him with unnecessary dissent.
The project manager wasn't back biting and stirring up negative feelings to create a bad team spirit.
When the project manager turned up to join the car washing side of the team suddenly things drastically improve.

So I think that the project manager did well, especially considering the environment he had to work in with one or two of them trying to work against him.

you've hit the nail on the head.

Howard stood up to the role of PM, quietly got on with the job in hand without too much arrogance. He's ideas were proven to be right, if they concentrated on the outside of the cars they would have made more money. When the main car clearing job was going badly wrong he stepped in and finished the job off, and hence one the task. Whets the general consensus on this forum? he's called a tool !!!!!!!

Phillip spent he time trying to make Howard look inept, when Howard said concentrate on the outside of the car, Phillip took this as Howard being overbearing, and choose to ignore this and almost lose the task. He's a very 2 dimensional, arrogant, and rather boring.

I'll agree with most of that. Howard recognised that by agreeing to do the car interiors too (against his instructions), the success of the task was in jeopardy. I think he made a good judgement call. Perhaps Phil's ego was a bit bruised by the team leader needing to come and 'sort them out', but at the end of the day (to quite Mona lol), they took how many hrs to finish just one car???

Agreed. I thought he did well. I was all prepared to hate him just from his profile, but he got on with stuff quickly and efficiently and without pee'ing off too many people.