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Old 26-03-2009, 22:57
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Help,

I've formatted an external HDD Fat32 using a programme called swissknife. However dispite the fact the HDR "sees" the drive when I connect it, it fails to read any files that I have copied to it. Is there anyone out there who has suceeded in achieving this??

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Old 27-03-2009, 09:45
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Help,

I've formatted an external HDD Fat32 using a programme called swissknife. However dispite the fact the HDR "sees" the drive when I connect it, it fails to read any files that I have copied to it. Is there anyone out there who has suceeded in achieving this??

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In File Manager what happens when you cursor right to the USB drive icon and click to open drive root. The foxsat will only display files it recognises. .jpg, .mp3 and it's native video files. To access .jpg and .mp3 you need to change mode.
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Old 27-03-2009, 15:18
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Got a 1TB external drive working last week. Formatted it to EXT3 which took over 3 hours However it does the business and I can copy to it and play back from it directly including non-Freesat HD stuff.
For some reason I can't get it to work with a newish card reader, but it is happy with an old one and can playback jpeg from a compact flash card to which I did nothing. Would not recommend the auto size format though as the stretchy vision is quite pronounced.
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Old 27-03-2009, 21:24
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In File Manager what happens when you cursor right to the USB drive icon and click to open drive root. The foxsat will only display files it recognises. .jpg, .mp3 and it's native video files. To access .jpg and .mp3 you need to change mode.
Yeah tried that but it doesn't see the files. OK on a pen drive and PC?

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Old 27-03-2009, 21:24
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Got a 1TB external drive working last week. Formatted it to EXT3 which took over 3 hours However it does the business and I can copy to it and play back from it directly including non-Freesat HD stuff.
For some reason I can't get it to work with a newish card reader, but it is happy with an old one and can playback jpeg from a compact flash card to which I did nothing. Would not recommend the auto size format though as the stretchy vision is quite pronounced.
How do you format it EXT3 and will a PC still "see" it?

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Old 28-03-2009, 12:08
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You need to use a Linux distribution as far as I'm aware. A Windows PC can't read EXT3. I use an old PC with Linux loaded and networked to my main Windows PC. Complicated, but it seems to work OK.
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Old 28-03-2009, 12:18
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You need to use a Linux distribution as far as I'm aware. A Windows PC can't read EXT3. I use an old PC with Linux loaded and networked to my main Windows PC. Complicated, but it seems to work OK.
You can get EXT2/3 drivers for windows

http://www.fs-driver.org/

Other usefull thread

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286002
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Old 28-03-2009, 16:44
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Yes, sorry I should have made my post clearer. Schloss Germanycalling is a "Microsoft free " zone. I place Microsoft in the same bucket as Sky and Bill Gates in the same bucket as Rupert Murdoch. I used a utility called GNOME Partition Manager and it was included in the Linux distribution that I use. It will let you take any drive and make it NTFS or Apple or Amiga or whatever it knows.

Having played with the EXT3 drive on a "PC" at work the drive is recognised in Device Manager but it says there is a fault with it. The route suggested by Graham might be better for you, unless you want to take the plunge with Linux and have a dual operating system.

Again I apologise for the confusion.
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Old 28-03-2009, 21:19
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Yes, sorry I should have made my post clearer. Schloss Germanycalling is a "Microsoft free " zone. I place Microsoft in the same bucket as Sky and Bill Gates in the same bucket as Rupert Murdoch. I used a utility called GNOME Partition Manager and it was included in the Linux distribution that I use. It will let you take any drive and make it NTFS or Apple or Amiga or whatever it knows.

Having played with the EXT3 drive on a "PC" at work the drive is recognised in Device Manager but it says there is a fault with it. The route suggested by Graham might be better for you, unless you want to take the plunge with Linux and have a dual operating system.

Again I apologise for the confusion.
I trust that you empty your bucket in an environmentally friendly manner!

Can you recommend an idiots guide to Linux?
I wound enjoy adding Windows to my $ly bucket!

I spend months each year caravanning sometimes outside the sat footprint, so your 1TB add on sounds interesting.
I was thinking of putting 1TB inside until I read on another thread how Humax frown on even cutting off the 13A plug.
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Old 29-03-2009, 08:42
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I trust that you empty your bucket in an environmentally friendly manner!

Can you recommend an idiots guide to Linux?
I wound enjoy adding Windows to my $ly bucket!

I spend months each year caravanning sometimes outside the sat footprint, so your 1TB add on sounds interesting.
I was thinking of putting 1TB inside until I read on another thread how Humax frown on even cutting off the 13A plug.
David
Sorry, still struggling to understand how I format an external HDD to EXT3 file system. I realise that I need Linux to do this but can I put this on the external HDD or do I need to create a partition on my Laptop. I have an old PC that I could trash operating system wise, is that the way to go? Where do I get Linix from?

Any help appreicated.

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Old 29-03-2009, 09:57
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Sorry, still struggling to understand how I format an external HDD to EXT3 file system. I realise that I need Linux to do this but can I put this on the external HDD or do I need to create a partition on my Laptop. I have an old PC that I could trash operating system wise, is that the way to go? Where do I get Linix from?

Any help appreicated.

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Loads of free Linux on the net. Most user friendly version I have found is Slax which has GUI similar to windows as well as the command line console.

Get it here

http://www.slax.org/

Here's how I did it (substitute Slax for Nimble X)

http://www.avforums.com/forums/frees...ml#post8348697

Word of caution before formatting check using the browser that the usb device name is SDA1 it might be different on your system
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Old 29-03-2009, 11:24
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Just tried it but Windows thinks the drive needs formatting and can't read it. I know my external drive is EXT3 and guessing that it's got "inodes of 256 bytes" refered to in the guide notes as not compatible. I'll stick to Linux I think.
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Old 29-03-2009, 11:36
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Just tried it but Windows thinks the drive needs formatting and can't read it. I know my external drive is EXT3 and guessing that it's got "inodes of 256 bytes" refered to in the guide notes as not compatible. I'll stick to Linux I think.
I had not tried the driver as the few times I need to access the Foxsat-HHD I boot my laptop into Linux with a boot CD.
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Old 29-03-2009, 12:16
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I am not yet an expert on Humax stuff, but I have loads of Linux experience.
If anyone needs to try Linux, I would recommend Ubuntu Linux. Download a CD and you can boot the PC into the Ubuntu OS from the CD drive on your PC. If you wish you can also install it to a second hard drive in the PC (20GB is big enough) or put it on a partition with Windoze.
When Ubuntu is installed you will also have access to everything on the Windoze drive. You can view video on Ubuntu, but can also copy files to the Windoze drive, if that is what you want.
One thing that you might find though, is that you end up using linux to browse the web and do other things that you would normally use Windoze for and then you may end up like me and my wife with everything linux and wipe Windoze off the PCs.
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Old 29-03-2009, 12:35
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@ SWIZZ?
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I trust that you empty your bucket in an environmentally friendly manner
Well, I have no choice! Being in Germany that is a must!

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Can you recommend an idiots guide to Linux
I use the same techniques as with the HDR. Sling the manual and just play with it. Help when you need it is available in Forums! Two basic rules, same as other stuff really, 1) Don't mess with it when you are tired 2) Don't mess with it under the affluence of incohol.

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I have an old PC that I could trash operating system wiseis that the way to goWhere do I get Linix from
You probably don't need to trash anything. Most Linux distributions will recognise that there is another operating system present and ask you if you want to retain the exiting system or not. If you say retain then you are offered the choice of which system to boot up in each time you turn the computer on. So use your old system and give it a go! What do you have to loose apart from maybe one hour of your time? The approach Graham mentioned will also work. You can burn the Linux onto a CD and run it from your CD drive and your existing computer's RAM and leave your existing computer untouched. Yes you really can try before you buy, it only costs a blank CD!

From what I can gather the utility I used comes as either GpartEd or Gnome partition manager. I used the latter and it has a flaw (as I found to my cost) in that the progress bar does not move during the formatting process. By default it will put an MS DOS boot on the external device which is OK for the HDR. Select the format you want in this case EXT3 and then I made it the primary partition. Select the green tick to execute and once the procedure has started go up the pub and it should be done when you get back!
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Old 29-03-2009, 12:38
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I am not yet an expert on Humax stuff, but I have loads of Linux experience.
If anyone needs to try Linux, I would recommend Ubuntu Linux. Download a CD and you can boot the PC into the Ubuntu OS from the CD drive on your PC. If you wish you can also install it to a second hard drive in the PC (20GB is big enough) or put it on a partition with Windoze.
When Ubuntu is installed you will also have access to everything on the Windoze drive. You can view video on Ubuntu, but can also copy files to the Windoze drive, if that is what you want.
One thing that you might find though, is that you end up using linux to browse the web and do other things that you would normally use Windoze for and then you may end up like me and my wife with everything linux and wipe Windoze off the PCs.
I second that! Sorry our posts crossed
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Old 29-03-2009, 16:32
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Thank-you to
grahamlthompson, BobTh & germanycalling for your help.
Linux is a wide field & having directions from proficient users will greatly shorten my search.

I learned to program Fortran via punched cards in the 60s. Perhaps it is time to stop resting on my laurels !

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Old 29-03-2009, 18:43
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Thank-you to
grahamlthompson, BobTh & germanycalling for your help.
Linux is a wide field & having directions from proficient users will greatly shorten my search.

I learned to program Fortran via punched cards in the 60s. Perhaps it is time to stop resting on my laurels !

David
Hi David

Did you ever drop the cards whils't loading them into the card reader. Just like the cow that jumped over the barbed wire fence, Udder destruction

I used to do system security studies (Then the CEGB) using an IBM1130 programmed using punched cards. The results came out on punched tape that we had to send off to have them printed out - Happy Days
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Old 29-03-2009, 23:00
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No Graham I always carried the cards like an offering to a Japanese ancestor god.
I got actual American English print-outs.
It was ICI so the IBM 360 was housed in its own air conditioned cathedral. It was only approached by devotees wearing totally respectful coveralls!
An IBM 360 was about as cute as a modern scientific calculator.

David

PS the ICI pension fund is now worth 5 times as much as ICI.
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Old 30-03-2009, 07:54
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No Graham I always carried the cards like an offering to a Japanese ancestor god.
I got actual American English print-outs.
It was ICI so the IBM 360 was housed in its own air conditioned cathedral. It was only approached by devotees wearing totally respectful coveralls!
An IBM 360 was about as cute as a modern scientific calculator.

David

PS the ICI pension fund is now worth 5 times as much as ICI.
I remember those days well - in my case with STC on an ICL 1905. But wasn't it fun being at the cutting edge! PDP11's and Vaxes followed. I am still 'at it' Linux is easy to use a bit of googling will get you there. I have not used the standalone CD versions but a friend says that they work well. Good luck
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Old 30-03-2009, 21:28
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I am not yet an expert on Humax stuff, but I have loads of Linux experience.
If anyone needs to try Linux, I would recommend Ubuntu Linux. Download a CD and you can boot the PC into the Ubuntu OS from the CD drive on your PC. If you wish you can also install it to a second hard drive in the PC (20GB is big enough) or put it on a partition with Windoze.
When Ubuntu is installed you will also have access to everything on the Windoze drive. You can view video on Ubuntu, but can also copy files to the Windoze drive, if that is what you want.
One thing that you might find though, is that you end up using linux to browse the web and do other things that you would normally use Windoze for and then you may end up like me and my wife with everything linux and wipe Windoze off the PCs.
OK disc downloaded but how do you format a HDD??

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