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Old 27-03-2009, 06:40
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Bob_Cat, any news on the next firmware update?
Surely you have an indication of when and what is in it??

Here's hoping,

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Old 27-03-2009, 10:23
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Yes I second that...
Got a Humax FV+ 9300T a few weeks back and it deletes recordings in a flash even when they are currently still being played....

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Old 27-03-2009, 11:18
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I'm also getting very tired of waiting for a few fixes. now almost waiting 5 months since v1.02 is out.

(yes, I know it takes time to fix, test and release, but it almost seems they want to fix 1000 things in one firmware update (i hope at least)
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Old 27-03-2009, 11:24
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I'm also getting very tired of waiting for a few fixes. now almost waiting 5 months since v1.02 is out.

(yes, I know it takes time to fix, test and release, but it almost seems they want to fix 1000 things in one firmware update (i hope at least)
Eargerly waiting here aswell were running a bet at work which will come first.

Our new sky hd guide,
Virgins promised 4 hd channels,
Foxsat hdr update,

Place your bets.
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Old 27-03-2009, 11:33
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Eargerly waiting here aswell were running a bet at work which will come first.

Our new sky hd guide,
Virgins promised 4 hd channels,
Foxsat hdr update,

Place your bets.
What are the odds? Any other horses in the race? Hasn't "Release of new freesat+ receiver" been entered?
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Old 27-03-2009, 11:35
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What are the odds? Any other horses in the race? Hasn't "Release of new freesat+ receiver" been entered?
No at the moment the sky hd guide seems to be the favourite. we did contemplate Channel 4hd but we gathered with that one just before the end of the year.
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Old 27-03-2009, 12:53
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This is a close call but I'm gonna go with a little faith and say the Foxsat update, but I doubt we'll see it before May/June, though don't you think April 1st might be poetic in terms of Humax having a laugh on us, and if the update's crap, they can just shout "April Fools"!!

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Old 27-03-2009, 12:55
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This is a close call but I'm gonna go with a little faith and say the Foxsat update, but I doubt we'll see it before May/June
Upon what do you base that date range?
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Old 27-03-2009, 12:56
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I know this is the obvious joke, but I just can't avoid it.......

Mmmh, New Sky EPG or Foxsat firmware update. But which is the better?

THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT...........
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Old 27-03-2009, 13:29
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mart,

I am a pacifist at heart.

I am afraid I have no news that I can release.

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Old 27-03-2009, 13:42
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This is a close call but I'm gonna go with a little faith and say the Foxsat update, but I doubt we'll see it before May/June, though don't you think April 1st might be poetic in terms of Humax having a laugh on us, and if the update's crap, they can just shout "April Fools"!!
My guess is that Humax are working to a target of getting the update out before the next freesat+ box is released. They will be seeking two things by doing that.
Sufficient new "Gee Whiz" features, probably involving the ethernet port, to be competative with any such "Gee Whizz" features offered by a competitor.
Major overhual of the bugs and issues there are with the current software release, so that they can't be held against the HDR in comparative reviews. Plus the hope that the HDR will win out against teething problems with the comptetition.
What are the Panasonic offerings due out? Whatever happened to the rumoured Metronic freesat+ box?
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Old 27-03-2009, 14:04
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My guess is that Humax are working to a target of getting the update out before the next freesat+ box is released. They will be seeking two things by doing that.
Sufficient new "Gee Whiz" features, probably involving the ethernet port, to be competative with any such "Gee Whizz" features offered by a competitor.
Major overhual of the bugs and issues there are with the current software release, so that they can't be held against the HDR in comparative reviews. Plus the hope that the HDR will win out against teething problems with the comptetition.
What are the Panasonic offerings due out? Whatever happened to the rumoured Metronic freesat+ box?
The new box is going to have a Blue-ray recorder/DVD recorder and a 500GB hard drive. It will also have many other features. In other words, it makes the Humax PVR look like a misfit. Does have a price of £500.
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Old 27-03-2009, 14:09
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Why will the HDR look like a misfit?

Hopefully when they release a updated firmware to sort out all the initial release bugs it will a very stable box.

Price wise £300 seems expensive but then its first on Market and will command premium price until competion brings it down.
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Old 27-03-2009, 14:13
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The new box is going to have a Blue-ray recorder/DVD recorder and a 500GB hard drive. It will also have many other features. In other words, it makes the Humax PVR look like a misfit. Does have a price of £500.
Where did £500.00 come from ?. The estimated price I have seen for the top of the range model is circa £1000.00, and until freesat relaxes it's HD copy restrictions the bluray recorder is not going to be much use. Not to mention blank recordeable discs at about £6.00 each
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Old 27-03-2009, 14:26
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Where did £500.00 come from ?. The estimated price I have seen for the top of the range model is circa £1000.00, and until freesat relaxes it's HD copy restrictions the bluray recorder is not going to be much use. Not to mention blank recordeable discs at about £6.00 each
Graham's right. Join Freesat reported that the figure had now been revised to circa £1,000 and Blu Ray recording is worthless from a HD point of view without a relaxation of copy protection. Also, Blu Ray over broadcast will never match commercially produced Blu Ray as broadcast simply doesn't have the same bit rate or sound capabilities.
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Old 27-03-2009, 14:43
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Where did £500.00 come from ?. The estimated price I have seen for the top of the range model is circa £1000.00, and until freesat relaxes it's HD copy restrictions the bluray recorder is not going to be much use. Not to mention blank recordeable discs at about £6.00 each
£500 might be my fault, I was originally told this by Panasonic, but they have since revised that price to more the figure you are discussing.

Things will become clear soon though, Panasonic are demoing (sp?) the new PVR to a select few on the 14th April down in bracknell.
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Old 27-03-2009, 15:17
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I thought Panasonic announced a range of freesat PVRs, the "£1,000 job" being the top of the range.
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Old 27-03-2009, 15:42
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It doesn't matter how many extra bells and whistles it has, if it's more than £300 then it's not going to worry Humax overly*. £300 is already at the very top end of "persuade the missus".

Until someone produces a Freesat+ box at £300 or less, Humax have a complete monopoly on the non-enthusiast market.

*NB I'm not saying the Panny won't sell, or won't be a good box. But at £1000, or even £500, it simply won't crack any kind of mainstream market. That's more than most people pay for their TV!
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Old 27-03-2009, 16:22
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I am afraid I have no news that I can release.
hi Bob... good to hear from you
Does the above imply that there is some news on the way but its all hush-hush or just that there is nothing imminent
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Old 27-03-2009, 18:16
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I don't think Humax can ever win on this one.

They are dammed because they haven't done anything yet and on these very negative forum threads they will be dammed when they do do something.

Any future changes will be criticised as either inadequate or the wrong things first:
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Old 27-03-2009, 19:33
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I don't think Humax can ever win on this one.

They are dammed because they haven't done anything yet and on these very negative forum threads they will be dammed when they do do something.

Any future changes will be criticised as either inadequate or the wrong things first:
I dont think that is the reason my hdr works pretty well and does what it supposed to do but nothing has changed since it came out i think that what the frustration with a lot of people is eg not being able to delete while recording hopefully that will be fixed eventually.
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Old 27-03-2009, 19:41
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I dont think that is the reason my hdr works pretty well and does what it supposed to do but nothing has changed since it came out i think that what the frustration with a lot of people is eg not being able to delete while recording hopefully that will be fixed eventually.
There are a few things that affect everybody which, although they are not show stoppers, are annoying. Delete, or lack of it, while recording is one of them. There are also some more serious issues that affect a minority of owners. If you are one of the unfortunates, you may consider these to be show stoppers. Compatability with some TVs on HDMI is the obvious example. At present, Humax have the show to themselves so it's a matter of take the risk (or not) and then either like it or lump it. But, if these sort of things come out in a comparative review, it could be bad for Humax. Panasonic's entry level offering, and its pricing, is going to be interesting.
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Old 27-03-2009, 22:34
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I know that I am not as knowledgeable as most of you chaps on this forum, but having had my Humax PVR for 4 days now, I am very happy with it.
I would like to see more HD content, but that is not Humax's problem.
I will admit that I am still getting to grips with it, and these forums with their vast knowledge will help me along the way.
Perhaps I was lucky in that I went out and bought the correct TV that works well with the Humax, but it seems to be a very well designed PVR for me.
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Old 27-03-2009, 23:21
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My Humax box is in the conservatory, my Sky HD box is in the living room but feeds the conservatory via RF. I thought the Humax box would be a nice addition and allow me to watch a bit of HD on the telly in the conservatory.

In reality, apart from a few foibles (you know, jumping forward to live when watching a prog you are also recording etc.) the Humax box has been rock steady. Don't have to check it has recorded everything like the Sky box etc. So far, touch wood, it just works.

Point is, probably through ignorance and lack of knowledge, I don't see the Panasonic Blu-Ray as a substitute product for the Humax (although, obviously, it can be). The reason for this MAY be shot down, but I have a DVD recorder with a built in tuner, HDD etc. and the functionality leaves a lot to be desired. It really does only do one thing well at a time. Think you will be writing a BD disk while recording and watching? I don't know, but unless the complexity of such devices has moved on considerably within the last few years, I doubt it (I would be happy to be corrected). I certainly wouldn't mind one of those Panasonic devices, they sound great, but I wouldn't see it as my primary source (in the same way that I didn't view my DVD recorder as a primary source). There's nothing worse than burning a disk and then the wife plonking her backside in front of the telly wanting to record/watch something The other downside is that to execute my plan of a Panasonic being "on the side" would require another two feeds, not quite the looping of a single RF feed!
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Old 27-03-2009, 23:25
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@BobTh

Don't get me wrong. I'm also very pleased with my HDR. I have a Sony Bravia and I can't remember seeing any problems reported of compatability issues with Sony TVs. As far as the other quirks are concerned, they do get irritating after a while for some people. That includes me, but not enough to spoil my enjoyment of the HDR. Unfortunately, they would serve as fodder for a reviewer who wanted to criticise the HDR. Because of that, it would be as well for Humax to fix them before there is any competition. It would also make a number of posters in this forum very happy .
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